Over the past year – maybe even the past two years – we’ve been talking about the retreating of the air-cooled 911 market. As is somewhat typical, that retreat came on the heels of some rapid upward movement in pricing, especially among certain models. One of those models was the G50-equipped 3.2 Carrera. Separated from earlier model years by its change from the 915 to the G50 transmission collectors suddenly started throwing huge amounts of money at these cars. To a degree some of that seemed to be a correction in that prices had been too low. But the correction also appeared to go a bit too far. We saw a similar situation with the 930 and with the 964 RS America. In some cases all of these cars can still fetch pretty high prices, but that is now limited to the best and rarest examples.
The bright side of all of this is that with those retreating prices there’s much better value to be found on the 911 market. Prices haven’t fully retreated (and I don’t expect they will) so we’re still higher than 3 years ago, but it has been a welcome reprieve. I wanted to check back in on that market with one that should provide an interesting case as the mileage is low, but not absurdly so, the condition looks excellent, and it has that very desirable G50 5-speed. Bidding should tell us a little bit about where the market currently lies. Here we have a Guards Red over Black 1987 Porsche 911 Carrera Targa, located in New York, with sport seats and 53,601 miles on it.
Model: 911 Carrera Targa
Engine: 3.2 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 53,601 mi
Price: Reserve Auction
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera Targa ( G50 ) in Guards Red with Black Leather interior.
Did the world need a 450 horsepower Porsche off-roader? Maybe not. Is it cool that one exists? Certainly. Porsche came to the SUV party a little later than Mercedes-Benz, BMW and even corporate partner Volkswagen, but when it did it came in with some serious motivation. Alongside the VR6 and V8 models – already fairly potent engines – came a twin-turbocharged 4.5 liter unit. With 450 horsepower and 460 lb. ft of torque mated to a six-speed Tiptronic transmission, acceleration was blistering. The 5,700lb heavyweight hit 60 in a sports car embarrassing 5.3 seconds and was capable of topping 170 mph. Massive six piston Brembo brakes provided 911-like braking capability, too, and while in default the car had a 60 percent power bias to the rear, Porsche Traction Management system could transfer up to 100 percent of the power to whichever axle needed it most – or, more properly, was using it best.
That hinted that this was more than just a tall on-roader like the X5. No, the Cayenne was a serious off-roader. With lockable center and rear differentials, a low-range box with planetary gearing and height adjustable air suspension, it was more than competent when the going got rough. And with short overhangs both front and rear, it could actually conquer big elements. Pushed, it could also head through nearly 2-foot deep water, as well.
For most Cayenne (and especially Cayenne Turbo models), these features were about as useful for most owners as the top speed of the entire 911 range in the U.S. is. Nevertheless, it pointed towards Porsche’s careful engineering of the Cayenne to be a true all-around performer. And that unique focus on performance has inspired some individuals to capitalize on the model’s prowess:
I tend to lean much more toward naturally aspirated cars in my own general desires. Forced induction is fine, though in some of the cars I’ve driven I’ve really not cared for it. I like high revs and instant response. There are exceptions though. For shoppers looking at the 996 the Turbo may be just the area to do your shopping. They are a bit more expensive than a standard Carrera, but you’re getting a lot more performance and the Turbo (along with GT3 and GT2) does not suffer from the IMS issues that have sometimes plagued the first generation of Porsche’s water-cooled 911. So I’m always looking for decent 996 Turbos on the market and I think the one we have here fits that bill. Here is a Midnight Blue Metallic 2001 Porsche 911 Turbo Coupe, located in California, with Metropol Blue leather interior and 73,500 miles on it.
Model: 911 Turbo
Engine: 3.6 liter twin-turbocharged flat-6
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Mileage: 73,500 mi
Price: Reserve Auction ($43,000 Buy It Now)
2001 Porsche 996 Turbo 6 Speed Manual
Midnight Blue Metallic/Metropol Blue Full Leather
OEM Carbon Fiber dash, door pockets, steering wheel, leather covered vents, aluminum/carbon shifter
Completely Stock, no accidents, all original paint.
Second owner. Michelin PSS tires are about two years old and plenty of tread.
Car is in excellent condition, everything works perfectly as it should.
It was bought new at Carlsen Porsche in Palo Alto and serviced regularly.
All maintenance records included since new. Car has never left California.
Two keys, car cover, all books, tools, records, original window sticker.
A small dime size ding on driver-side rear quarter panel, hard to see in pictures.
Scuff mark on left side of rear bumper.
A familiar face popped into my usual searches this week. It was a 2001 BMW M3 in Laguna Seca Blue. What stood out immediately were the wheels (okay, and the color); BBS CH and near faultless condition throughout pointed towards the example I looked at twice in 2014. Three years later, it’s still for sale and though the price has dropped, the seller is still looking for the best part of $60,000.
In the future, that price may not seem quite that outrageous. After all, finding a perfect condition, 10,000 mile M3 in one of the two signature colors isn’t something you come across everyday, right?
I’ve mentioned a few times the 964 Carrera 4 that lives up the street from me. It’s the only 964 I see with any frequency and it is always a joy. I know it is approaching by its sound and it always looks great in a way that modern Porsches do not. But, ultimately, it’s not what I would consider ideal were I in the market for a 964. First, it’s a Carrera 4 and I’d prefer a Carrera 2. That’s partly just a general preference between the two models, but also related to some of the teething issues we find with Porsche’s first Carrera 4. If I really wanted an air-cooled Carrera 4 I think I’d look at the 993. Second, it’s white and while I do think it’s very nice looking that’s not really the color I’d like.
Well, the one we see here solves both of those problems. Here we have a Guards Red 1991 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe, located in Montana, with Beige interior and 87,800 miles on it.
Model: 911 Carrera 2
Engine: 3.6 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 87,800 mi
Price: $51,995 Buy It Now
Up for auction is an excellent fully documented 91 C2 5 speed coupe. Full service history from new, always garaged, never a daily driver fully serviced car, all documentation and books. No engine oil leaks, no issues with head to cylinder oil leaks. New tires and fresh service, ready to be driven anywhere. Very few 964 5 speed coupes available, even fewer very nice original cars. Have original radio and other misc parts.
There’s certainly a lot to like with this 964. We don’t get to see much of the interior, but what we do see looks good.…
At its current price I really don’t think this Arctic Silver Metallic 1997 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S is going to sell. I also realize that’s a somewhat strange way to begin a post. The reason I’ve chosen to feature this 911 is because I think it looks superb, if not in the most exciting color combination. The mileage is low, though not absurdly so, and it appears to be in original condition. The problem really only is the price. That isn’t a small problem, but with some patience perhaps that price comes down a bit and then you may be left with a very nice looking 993 that you can enjoy with less worry about the miles affecting its value. That in itself is a lovely thing.
Model: 911 Carrera 4S
Engine: 3.6 liter flat-6
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Mileage: 58,450 mi
Truly beautiful, very clean California car. 1997 993 with 58,500 original miles. Arctic Silver Metallic with Classic Grey supple leather interior. Aluminum and chrome dials, shifter and brake handle. Wide turbo body. Always garaged, no collision history. All stock Porsche options such as Litronic headlights, power seats, dimming rear view mirror, titanium brake calipers, premium stereo with 10 speakers, door insignias, and more. Maintenance receipts, manual and original window sticker. Still smells new. Last of the air-cooled and hand-built Porsches.
Options:09991 Manufactured from Exclusive Program437 Comfort seat left438 Comfort seat right454 Automatic speed control490 Hi-Fi sound system601 Litronic Headlights650 Sunroof659 Onboard computer688 Radio cd C DR210939 Soft leather rear982 Supple Leather Seats/TrimC02Catalytic converterX52Console CD Storage for 5 DiscsX54Oval Chrome Exhaust PipesX70Metal Door Sill InsigniaX71Aluminum Instrument DialsX97Alum/leather shift knobX98Alum/leather parking break handleXE3993: Dimming rear view mirror
The Carrera 4S made its debut as part of the 993 line, thus making it the only time the model was available as an air-cooled 911.…
I’ve looked across the 924 range over the past week, from the well-optioned 1980 Turbo through the interestingly-modified 1978 924 base model. But in the case of either of those, the strong argument if you just want a nice driving, cheap entry level Porsche is the later 924S.
Offered for only two years in the U.S. market, nevertheless a bulk of the 924S production was sold here. Some 16,669 were made in total, with 9,137 making the trip across the Atlantic from Neckarsulm. Of those, the much more prevalent to find would be the first model year, with 6,947 accounting for 1987 production. Yet there were few changes across the run; 1988 received a slight bump in compression for a 5 horsepower gain, and there was the limited run of Special Edition final models that were quite special. But all offer lightweight driving fun with near-perfect balance and poise, reasonable running costs and sprightly performance. Plus, since many 924 owners treasured their foray into Porsche ownership, it’s possible just about any day of the week to find a really nice condition 924S like this impressive 43,500 mile Zermatt Silver Metallic example.
What’s not to like?
This probably seems strange at first, but to me this 1977 BMW 525 is the perfect counterpoint to yesterday’s Jetta. Like the Jetta, this Euro-specification 525 is on the low-end of the totem pole in the production scale of even the early E12 5-series. Granted, the introduction of the M30 into the E12 did up the power over the early E10 4-cylinder models; however, in 1977 this M30B25 produced 145 non-fuel injected horsepower – only 15 more than the 520i. The early 5s didn’t have much in terms of luxuries that we’ve come to associate with the benchmark sedan, either – they were fairly basic. But just like yesterday’s Jetta, this 525 located in Bulgaria is worth a long look because of the beautiful condition, which is enough to draw you back to a more simple time:
In 1987, there were quite a few Jettas to like (as Jettas go, that is). If you absolutely had to have a trunk, you could grab a turbo diesel for its last year until the 1990 Ecodiesel arrived. The “GL” trim package gave you power options like windows, mirrors, locks, and even a power antenna – remember when breaking antennas off cars was a hoodlum pastime? Your GL would even come with a ski sack! There was the new Wolfsburg Edition, which gave you all the options of the GLI without sport seats – so you got the special Pirelli P-slot wheels, deeper spoilers, and even a power bump to 105. Did I mention the GLI? For good measure, there were two that year, with the 8V bowing out to the incoming 16V model.
This car is not any of those trim levels, though. This is a plain-jane Jetta; steel wheels, the lowest power available, and manual everything (except, predictably, the transmission). So why look at it? Well, two reasons – and they both open. Oh, and it only has 5,581 miles, too.
We don’t really do revisits much anymore, but I wanted to make an exception here because it’s such a great car, so rare and beautiful, and the price has changed dramatically from when I originally featured it last November. The original listing for this Oslo Blue 1963 Porsche 356B Carrera 2 Coupe had it priced at $839K. I said at the time that the price was higher than just about any other Carrera 2 auction I’d seen and it remained on eBay for a while going nowhere. It also had been listed with no description and that wasn’t helping. Here it is priced somewhat more reasonably at $565K, and we’re provided with some of the car’s history to help support its (still) very high price. At the very least we’re off to a much better start.
Model: 356B Carrera 2
Engine: 2.0 liter flat-4
Transmission: 4-speed manual
Mileage: 73,426 mi
Price: $565,000 Buy It Now
This nicely optioned T6 Carrera 2 was originally delivered to Hanover, Germany, but delivered to the United States in 1966 to its second owner and active PCA member, Arthur Foyt. In 1971 German, Eugene Deutsch, bought the Carrera 2 and retained it for most of it’s life.
The car underwent a lengthy restoration beginning in 1998. It was stripped to bare metal and repainted to its original Oslo Blue, which remains in great shape today, and the interior has been redone by noted 356 experts. This spectacular 356 is powered by a correct 587/1 four-cam engine that was built by the best; the late Billy Doyle of Rennwagen Motor Company and runs fantastic. His work lives on!
Though restored over 10 years ago, this Carrera 2 remains in superb overall condition and performs as well as any 356 you will drive.