Stunning Twos – 1989 and 1991 Porsche 944 S2s

Yesterday, Paul wrote up a nice looking 968 with lower miles. The problem with these low mile 968s seems to be that people ask a lot of money for them. Now granted, comparing the money that E30 M3s command compared to the 968 asking prices puts them in a less outrageous context, but compared to the prices 944 Turbo Ss or 944S2s command, they do seem out of line. Case in point is todays two stunning examples of the 968 prototype, the 944S2. Effectively the 968 was this car, restyled and with an extra cog in the gearbox. If you can deal with only 5 speeds and prefer the boxier styling of the 944s, these 944S2s are a screaming deal – for now. Let’s look at a black early example first:

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1989 Porsche 944 S2 on Cleveland Craigslist

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The Personal S-Class Mercedes-Benz: 1991 560SEC vs. 1996 S600 Coupe

Mercedes coupes have always been an object of desire for me. Sure, they lack a little of the carefree fun factor of their open roofed counterparts, but a lot of the classics coupes have blended the conservative style of the sedans with a bit of verve you would expect with a personal luxury vehicle. A two-door vehicle of this size may seem indulgent, but for me, they are oh so right. One of our favorites here at GCFSB is the C126, more commonly known as the 380SEC and later 560SEC on these shores. For a decade, this car carried the large coupe torch for Mercedes-Benz fairly unchanged and was one of those cars of the 1980s people would instantly associate with the wealthy.

First, let’s take a look at this low mileage 560SEC for sale in New York.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1991 Mercedes-Benz 560SEC on eBay

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Double Take: Rare color Porsche 911SC

Porsche has long offered a wide variety of colors to suit the palettes of its buyers and from time to time we come across these cars for sale. Late last week I wrote up a Talbot Yellow 911SC with a relatively high price that I figured was in large part due to the color choice. Talbot Yellow has that nice combination of being both rare and also eye-catching. Since writing up that car, we’ve come across two more examples in rare colors so this seemed like as good a time as any to take a look at what the market might bear for 911s that come in colors other than the standard Red, Black, and Silver. The first one is a restored 1980 Porsche 911SC in a very period-correct choice of Cashmere Beige.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1980 Porsche 911SC on eBay

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Stunning Ss – Two Lesser Appreciated S-cars from Audi

It’s hard to believe I could make such a claim; that there would be unappreciated Audi S models. Even more surprising is that they’re recently produced. But the truth is neither of these cars grabbed the headlines of their bigger brothers – while the S8, RS4 and Europe-only C6 RS6 stole the show for Audi, in the background were two very competent, very fast and very luxurious cars that not many chose to buy. These truly are cars that would have been enthusiasts’ dream rides only a decade earlier – the C6 S6, with its sleek body hiding a Lamborghini-derived V10 that was modified to produced more useable torque, and the B7 S4 – the last run of the great 4.2 V8 and arguably the best looking since the original S4, punting 340 horsepower though a great 6-speed manual. Today, 7 years later, you can pick up one of these super sedans for around the entry-level price of a Volkswagen Golf. Simply amazing. Let’s look at the S6 first:

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2007 Audi S6 at Coventry MotorCar

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Double Take: Original and Extra Spicy 1977 BMW 630CSis

Earlier in the week I wrote up a pristine, lower mile E12 528i that was a very pretty color combination and rare to see. The early generation cars of the 1980s – the E12, early E24 and E21 – are still in collector no man’s land; they’re in general not sought after enough to justify expensive restorations, and they’re not valuable enough for people to keep in pristine condition. They’re also not the best performers that BMW has produced; but in spite of that they’re all pretty cars and when well presented it’s a reminder of how clean and desirable some of these early BMW designs were. Few are as pretty as the original Paul Bracq designed E24 with it’s low, lean and long stance. Bespoilered later in life the design become increasingly cluttered and more aggressive, and while that has a certain appeal the early cars really do express the original design better. Today there are two examples, surprisingly, of the early run 630CSi – in your choice of original or modified “extra-spicy”. Which would you prefer? Let’s start with the modified version:

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1977 BMW 630CSi on eBay

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Double Take: Porsche 911SC or 3.2 Carrera?

For any prospective buyer of a classic 911 there inevitably comes a decision to be made about whether to get a 911SC or a 3.2 Carrera. These cars share enough similarities that in some cases a buyer may decide based simply upon availability. These are, after all, 30-year-old cars so the numbers of excellent examples are dwindling. But what if a good example of each is available, nearly identical in appearance and for similar cost? Now the decision-making process becomes a bit more difficult and it’s precisely the dilemma we feature here: a 1979 Porsche 911SC with 29,900 miles and a 1988 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe with 57,750 miles. We’ll begin with the 911SC:

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1979 Porsche 911SC on eBay

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Party Like It’s 1989 Week – Double Take: 1989 Volkswagen Scirocco GT

Much like the 1989 Polo GT and 1989 GTi 5-door, Europeans generally have been more interested in stylish examples of economy cars rather than the largest motor available. With gas prices pushing $8.00 a gallon and high taxes on larger engine displacements, it’s easy to understand why though Americans still haven’t gotten the message here. While the U.S. got the revered 16 valve version of the Scirocco 2, most European examples made due with less-thirsty 8 valve versions. That didn’t stop them from dressing the cars up, such as today’s twin Scirocco GTs, a model we didn’t get on these shores:

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1989 Volkswagen Scirocco GT on Mobile.de

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Double Take: 1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S Silver Rose

One of the more rare-to-see models in the 944 lineup is the 1988 Silver Rose edition Turbo S. In October I wrote up a lower-mile Silver Rose that remains for sale, but now there are two on Ebay. In that earlier post, I suggested these Turbo S models are going to be more highly sought after because of the rarity of the color combination. Despite this, in a bang-for-buck comparison to it’s direct competitors – the Audi Quattro and BMW M3 – the 944 Turbo remains a solid value and outperforms either in stock form. In fact, I’d argue it’s a much better all-arounder if you’re only carrying two people. It gets better mileage, will out-turn both, has a sizeable hatch area, is more comfortable and relaxed on the highway, and will handily out accelerate either. Still, as it was the go-to car for such a long time, mint condition examples are drying up and expect to see values climbing very soon. So which of the two Silver Rose editions will be the one for you – lower miles or lower asking price? Let’s start with the old “cheaper is better” adage:

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S on eBay

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Double Take: Two Turbo or not to Turbo 2: 2003 Audi A6 2.7T v. 2002 Audi A6 4.2

Taking some of the elements of my previous Allroad Showdown and S4 versus A4 3.2 Avant Showdown, this morning I’ve got another turbo versus displacement showdown, this time amongst A6 sedans. For effectively the same package, these two sedans perform their task in very different ways. It was evident from the Allroad showdown that the manual trumped almost everything else, so as with the S4 versus A4 test both cars today are tiptronic. While that may be disappointing to some, these are both competent luxury sport sedans at a budget price. Let’s start with the 2.7T:

Year: 2003
Model: A6 2.7T
Engine: 2.7 liter twin-turbocharged V6
Transmission: 5-speed automatic
Mileage: 67,000 mi
Price: $11,950 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2003 Audi A6 2.7T on eBay

VEHICLE FROM SOUTHERN STATES!

FULLY SERVICED(see records on the bottom)!

TIPTRONIC TRANSMISSION!

TWIN TURBO ENGINE!

All 4 matching tires ( 235-45-R17 ) – NEW
Front brakes – NEW
Rear brakes – NEW
Front rotors – NEW
Over $800 just invested!
17″ Audi SPORT Rims
Power seats
Memory seat
Dual Climate control
CD / TAPE
Folding Rear seats
Original floor mats
First aid Kit
All original books and manuals
CD PLAYER
SUN SHADES!
Dealer Serviced!
LOW MILEAGE Vehicle!
Bose Sound System!
4WD/AWD ParkTronic!

You are looking at a fully loaded luxury car that has been exceptionally well kept; it’s an all around great looking vehicle. This gorgeous A6 has been highway driven. This is a great car which combines superior luxury and comfort and sport sedan performance. This is a-never-smoked-in beauty that looks and smells new. The car was garage kept. Great looking bright red exterior and tan leather interior makes this car look great!

THE CAR HAS BEEN SERVICED BY THE DEALER ITS WHOLE LIFE!

The engines is one of the finest German engines ever created – a 2.7L TURBO Engine that runs and feels smooth and provides abundant power. The transmission shifts like on a new car, no skips or slips on shifts.

The interior is spotless while the leather shows almost no wear. The interior also has REAL WOOD trim! The front seats lean all the way back to the rear, so you can actually sleep rather comfortably in the car! The seats are extra comfortable with 16-way driver and passenger seat adjustments including Power driver + passenger 4-way lumbar adjustment provides variable lower back support.

The engine compartment clean, and void of any leaks. All the electrical options appear to be in working order. Audi A6 rates very high in safety, it’s not a light car, and has a lot of specially engineered alloys along its frame to dampen any possible impact. The SIDEGUARD Curtain and Rear Side Airbags provide the safety you and your family require.

A very good climate control system is present in this car, with not only front seats control, but you also have ice cold A/C blowing directly at the back seats, while the passengers are able to adjust how much airflow they want! The trunk is very clean and roomy as you can see from the pictures.

This is a unique hard to find automobile that has every option. It’s been garage kept, and is in good otherwise condition.

Talk about impressive condition; this A6 sure looks the part. I really like the departure from the typical drab silver or black often found on A6s – this splash of color makes all the difference for me. I love the super-light BBS RC wheels, the interior looks fantastic, and the lower miles are sure appealing. However, the price point is the highest I’ve seen for a non-S6 for a while – does that price this car out of the market? It just might; for $12,000 you can have your pick of pretty much any C5 A6 or S6. Still, the condition and color are what make the car appealing. Rather have two less turbos and two more cylinders?

The 4.2 A6 received not only a larger motor, but a host of upgrades to the body; S6-esque door trim, flared fenders and aluminum pieces to lighten up the front end. The result – surprisingly – is that the A6 4.2 with the V8 was less nose-heavy than the 2.7T V6 model. That makes for a bit more sport, coupled with wider-stance tires to really channel some of the earlier C4 S4/S6 model. In addition to making the car a bit more sport-oriented, it completed the look much better, and the 4.2 was the defacto S6 sedan despite not having the full 340hp motor.

Year: 2002
Model: A6 4.2
Engine: 4.2 liter V8
Transmission: 5-speed automatic
Mileage: 98,000 mi
Price: $9,800 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2002 Audi A6 4.2 Quattro on eBay

2002 Audi 4.2 Quattro, 2 owners from new. 98,000 well maintained miles. All options including recent Audi sport rims and a set of winter Bridgestone Blizzacks mounted on separate rims. Great in the snow! $9800. Call Neil @ 260-466-8898 Or 513-378-0403 Beautiful, beautiful car. Recent major service completed. Have owned BMW and Mercedes and this car is faster and better In snow.

This particular example has more miles, is the not as appealing silver over black, and the condition doesn’t look as prime as the 2.7T. On the positive side, it looks more aggressive and comes with a set of snows on the OEM wheels, along with the sport wheels included. Additionally, it’s claimed to have a recent service though no mention of what was actually serviced is provided. Importantly, though, it’s priced $2,000 under the 2.7T, making it that much more appealing.

Were it me, I’d have a hard time choosing between these two – I really love the color combo and discrete package of the 2.7T, but were I in the market I’d probably hold out for 6 speed manual that really makes the package desirable. That leaves the V8; in my mind, the only problem is that these 4.2s are priced on the verge of S8 territory, and for me that’s a much more desirable package. But between these two specific cars, I think I’d choose the 4.2 – which would be the Q-ship for you?

-Carter

Double Take: Black or Blue? 1992 and 1993 Porsche 968s

While most of front-engined Porsche enthusiasts flock towards the 944 Turbo as the model of choice, the non-turbo models remain a solid value amongst German performance cars. While they were arguably underpowered compared to their competition of the day, the 944 S2 and 968 are dependable and their excellent handling more than makes up for any horsepower deficiency. They’ve also aged much more gracefully than any of the Japanese cars did (save perhaps the FD RX7) and the ultimate expression of these cars – the 968 – returned in some regards towards the simple and clean design of the original 924 and 928 models versus the chunky, aggressive 944 Turbo and S2. Today clean examples of 968s have popped up on Ebay and remind us how great this design is – let’s start with the beautiful midnight blue example:

Year: 1993
Model: 968
Engine: 3.0 liter inline-4
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Mileage: 124,000 mi
Price: $ 14,000 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1993 Porsche 968 on eBay

1993 Porsche 968

Midnight Blue Metallic paint with gray interior. Run fast and pulls hard through all gears. No smoke at all. Recent Colorado emissions test. Clear title in my name.

Two owners since 1999, records since then.

Recent work done by Porsche expert Dart Auto:

-New drive belt
-New balance shaft seals
-New crankshaft seal
-New timing belt
-New camshaft seal
-New timing belt rollers and tensioner
-New balance shaft belt
-New A/C drier and valve
-New A/C compressor
-New water pump
-New valve cover gasket
-New A/C belt tensioner
-New DME relay
-New Hall sensor
-New VarioCam gasket and ring
-New OEM antenna
-New Lloyds mats
-Oil change and filter 2 months ago
-Recent alternator
-Recent battery
-Recent brake rotors and pads

New tires (less than 3000 miles on them). Factory option 17″ Cup wheels with colored crests have some curbing.

Recent paint work by Porsche experts Apex Auto Body:

-Bare metal respray of hood from rock chips and pitting
-Bare metal respray of left fender from clear coat failing and flaking off
-Respray of front clip from rock chips
-New weatherstripping on rockers and fenders
-New 968 badge on back
-Complete polish

Car has ProMax chip installed. Clean title in my name.

Dash lights have been upgraded and are nice and bright at night.

Will include owners manual, tool kit, Porsche compressor, original keys, wheel locks.

Interior is very clean. Non-smoker, no bolster wear, two small tears in the dash defrost vents.

Drive this car anywhere in the country. The only thing that may slow you down is the weather!

With a significant amount of recent mechanical work and corrected paintwork, this is one of the best to get. The 6 speed coupled to the 3.0 makes for a fun ride that is surprisingly different from the Turbo models, but very enjoyable all the same. I love this color combination and pricing seems right on. I’m a little surprised that while the car was in the shop they didn’t fix the curb rash on the desirable Cup wheels, but that could be pretty easily remedied. Overall, this has to be pretty close to the best setup on these cars in my opinion – Blue over grey with cup wheels. Rather have something a bit darker?

Black over black is probably my personal least favorite color combination on Porsches, but this one is in remarkable shape and looks great. The wheels are from a Boxster I believe but look nice, though not as fitting as the Cup wheels:

Year: 1992
Model: 968
Engine: 3.0 liter inline-4
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Mileage: 114,000 mi
Price: $13,700 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1992 Porsche 968 on eBay

This 1992 black-on-black Porsche 968 coupe feels well balanced and sturdy with plenty of power. It excellerates through all 6 gears and is a joy to drive! The suspension is responsive and the brakes are firm with a smooth clutch. This vehicle roars as the RPM’s climb! As the pictures evidence, the body and undercarriage are in good condition. This 968 is ready to go! No cracks in the dash and no tears in the leather. If interested in this rare, powerful Porsche 968, call Curtis at 832-671-8408.

This and other European collectibles can be viewed at jpfrazier.com There will be an additional $298.50 assessed to each sale for dealer doc fees.

This car is offered with a few less miles and a few hundred dollars less than the blue car, but in all honesty the lack of detailed mechanical work offered makes the blue car the one to buy if it were me even if I didn’t prefer the color combination. Despite that, either of these cars is priced right in the sweet spot for 968s – yes, you can find a fixer-upper cheaper than either of these cars, but do you really want to get into a wreck of a Porsche? If you’re smart, you buy a clean one and pay a bit extra, and both of these cars fit that bill perfectly.

-Carter