A trio of Porsche cars for sale, found in person.

Just a quick post to show some of the Porsches I encountered for sale while attending the Vintage Grand Prix at Waktins Glen International race track this past weekend. The seller’s numbers are listed in the pictures.
The weekend also had an auto auction that saw several Mercedes and Porsche vehicles sell at pretty cheap prices.

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~Evan

How about a March BMW GTP racer?

Not really our typical bag on this blog, but what the heck.

Buy this bad boy that needs some work now, sort it out over the winter, and you’ll be all set for next year’s vintage racing season. Or turn it into one hell of a street car, although I doubt unleashing close to 1000 horsepower through a race gearbox and suspension will result in something that could genuinely be called streetable.

It is up at $175,000, reserve not met, and it comes with a spare engine. Get yourself a piece of racing history, and then find a pit crew.

The seller’s description:

Driven by John Andretti, Davy Jones and David Hobbs This car only has two races on it therefore the chassis is perfect and not worn out. This was the test “mule” car that did much of the development work for the BMW program. This car has a new/fresh 2.1 liter turbo engine (over 900hp) and a fresh spare in one of the factory crates. Enough hard parts to rebuild at least two additional motors, MANY, many spares. This is a project that is un-assembled and is missing the two doors and part of the gearbox housing. Body needs fitting and paint. Unbelievable value for a GTP works car that represented the BMW factory.

~Evan

1981 Porsche 928 Strosek Widebody, Low mileage 928, & Audi 200 Trans Am

I see a good deal of 928s for sale, there are two reasons for this. One, Porsche made them for nearly two decades and two, because I look for Audi S4s so every time I search for S4 I come across Audis and Porsches. Because there are so many in the market picking one up is not very hard. $10k will get you a plenty nice one. Just remember that, while they looked fairly similar over that long run, the options changed over the years. Flavors of engines included 4.5, 4.7, 5.0, and 5.4, liter V8s.
Transmissions could be had in 3 and 4 speed auto or 5 speed manual.

A early 80s twenty thousand dollar 928 would normally have even fewer miles on it then the 46,000 on this machine. This one has reason to be an exception. It appears to have a super clean body kit, custom interior work, and performance engine tuning including cams and headers. Not to mention the seller says he’ll throw in $15,000 worth of extra goodies like a GPS nav, to tune up, detailing and more. Seems reasonable to me.

If 46,000 miles is a bit too high for you why not make an offer on this 1,484 mile 1978. Offered at $35,000 (reserve not met), this can only be for a collector. Great interior and even has the original window sticker. Knowing that every time you drove the car you’d be decreasing its value is tough. Just keeping the car garage bound when this 911 beater should be out roaming the back country is sad. As the slogan, picked up from another car club, goes, Garages Kill. Letting a car sit is not good for it and once parts start to deteriorate and have to be replaced you’ve lost the originality and not been able to enjoy driving the car, lose-lose. On the other hand it is nice to be able to show such an original vehicle.

1989 Audi Quattro 200 Trans-Am ex Hurley Haywood

Finally just to mix it up a bit this is the car that Hurley Hawyood used during the run to the Trans-Am Championship. The early Audi Quattro racers were pretty much bad ass in every form of racing they entered, hill climb, rally, trans am, etc. This one comes several years after the monster 600 horse power Group B Quattro S1, but clearly shares the blood lines and technology. The unique turbo charged inline 5 in this vehicle likely isn’t as powerful as the Group B car, but should certainly be bumping out over 500 ponies at full boost. The price is on request, probably somewhere north of a few dozen well used A4s. This would make a great SVRA or SCCA entry. For now it sits as a show piece at a casino.

I wasn’t able to confirm this from the dealer, but someone tells me this car may have just sold after being for sale for over a year at $450,000.

~Evan

A few nice custom 930 Porsches, sublime or ridiculous

****UPDATE**** 9/14/09
It was brought to our attention by a reader that the yellow widebody Porsche listed below has some discrepancies with VIN #s and seller legitimacy. If you see this Porsche listed proceed with care.

There is something about a 930 Porsche that just feels right. Nice proportions, fine performance, and fewer/simpler electronic gizmos than more modern 911s. They have that great Porsche sound. Really a work horse and driver’s car for the 80s Porsche enthusiast. I put 930 Porsche’s in that category of car that offers a pure driving experience in a package that begs to get out on the road rain or shine. Not quite the same as the new GT3 your neighbor owns that will never see its true potential as it only gets out of the garage on the trip to the golf course and even then only on cloudless days.

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Prices seem very solid and stable for good 930s. This shows positively on how collectors view these models. $15k should get you an almost daily driver worthy Porsche, that you can enjoy most of the year (year round down south), and that you could probably sell in a few years for what you paid. The $25k ask for this Gemballa in need of work seems a bit high, particularly when for a tick over $20k and a Strosek bodied 1986 sold at $20k. 1977 Porsche 930 slantnose1986 Porsche 930 Strosek

eBay is notorious for making it hard to sell damaged cars for decent prices. An auction format is supposed to show true market value, but I rarely see auctions for damaged cars like this, that have a seller’s reserve actually complete successfully. On the other hand someone else is out there asking .

1985 Porsche 930 Turbo Widebody

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Along the lines of the Flachbau or slantnose, you have to admire a car company that offered the option to the customer to completely alter the appearance of their car straight from the factory. This one with a widebody kit is bid up to $15k and it sure is wide. I hope the spindles are strong enough to take such a wide stance, with 50k on the clock I’d say things are ok. From the seller:

1985 PORSCHE TURBO 935 GAMBELLA [sic] SLANT NOSE , CARBON FIBER WING, KINISES WHEELS, MICHELIN PILOTS, KOKELN TURBO, KOKELN INTERCOOLER, 500 HP, CUSTOM YELLOW INTERIOR, THE WIDEST , COOLEST , TURBO I’VE EVER SEEN, FAST!! SHOW WINNER!!

Do you have other examples of German models that offered such dramatic bodystyle changes as factory options? BMW should have provided an option to de-Bangleify the E65 7 series.

1978 Porsche Kremer Turbo 3.5L

1978 Porsche 930 Turbo

And finally at the uber high end of the spectrum is this listing at $99,500 from Windsor Specialty Auto Sales in California. The car is also listed in Hemmings. From the seller:

This 1978 Porsche Turbo started as an early 3.3L, made its way to DP Motorsports where it received a body, and to Kremer for some minor modifications and badging. Because this is an early car, it
is likely to be one of the first to get the Kremer/DP Motorsports “treatment”. The car has extensive modifications (see below) by S-Car-Racing that raise output to about 550 HP. It is being
offered as a track or show car.

The seller states they will ad more photos, I hope they do, I’d love to peek at the engine. I’m sure photos can be furnished for you serious buyers out there.

~Evan

4 BMW M1s for the 4th of July

With July 4th being this weekend, a little red, white, and blue, is in order. So my thoughts were immediately drawn to some of the great BMWs that raced under the Motorsport tri-color livery. What better way to illustrate this than with a 1979 M1 in the proper Motorsport colors.

Red, White, and Blue 1979 BMW M1 on Craigslist

1979 BMW M1

This Craigslist offering from Munich Evolution, in Seattle seems to fit the bill perfectly. The seller says this vehicle has unique history, and if you are going to spend $175,000 a little unique history would be nice. The Procar body, this was a single make race series M1s raced under, on this M1 and the great color scheme enhance the value. If you really want BMW’s arguably first and only true supercar they can be had for less (see below), but this seems a fair ask price. The seller mentions that more info will be added about the car soon.

1981 White M1 Procar Widebody on eBay.

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If the patriotic paint scheme is not your thing, than why not start with a blank slate in this all white 1981 M1 widebody currently offered on eBay. $150,000 gets you a AC Schnitzer installed Procar bodied M1 with 22k on the clock. It looks pretty clean and check out that vintage Blaupunkt equalizer.

Lastly, two non-Procar M1s are available through Motorcar Gallery Inc in Fort Lauderdale Florida. Perhaps an homage to Michael Jackson we have a black 1980 model and a white 1981 model. They have the white one listed on Hemmings for $173,500.

1980 BMW M1

1981 BMW M1 B

All else being the same the Motorsport colors look the best to me and the black looks better than the white. Ah decisions.

Only 456 M1s hit the market. The rear mounted 3.5 liter 273 horse power engine makes the thrumming sound that comes from a big inline six. It is a bit more raucous sounding than the deep cabin cruiser yacht sound you hear from the 1st gen M5. This nice clip shows an M1 at Nürburgring with no silly music or voice over to wreck the exhaust note.

In race tune, where up to 850 horse power could be had, the sound is powerful, as witnessed by this M1 at Lime Rock Park.

Do you have examples of some patriotic U.S./German automotive collaborations to help us celebrate the 4th?

Happy BBQing.
~Evan