Right Hooker Week: 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Targa Supersport

As should be clear by now, we’re looking at cars from across the pond this week. Especially those that are right-hand drive. I’m going to follow a slightly different tack from the direction Carter and Andrew have taken us so far. They’ve shown a few interesting and quite reasonably priced models that weren’t available in the States. As is not atypical of the 911, mine will not be so reasonably priced, but I do think they are just as interesting. Some even more so!

I will start with this: a Grand Prix White 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Targa Supersport with Black interior and just 29,250 miles on it:

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Targa Supersport at Hexagon Classics

Year: 1986
Model: 911 Carrera Targa
Engine: 3.2 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 29,250 mi
Price: £119,995 (~ $155,600)

PORSCHE 911 3.2 CARRERA TARGA SUPERSPORT, 1986
MILEAGE: – 29,250 MILES, UK SUPPLIED
GRAND PRIX WHITE WITH BLACK LEATHER SEATS, PIPED WHITE
FACTORY SPECFICATIONS INCLUDE:- SUPER SPORT EQUIPMENT (TURBO LOOK), LEATHER INTERIOR, LEATHER STEERING WHEEL, FRONT SPORTS SEATS WITH ELECTRIC ADJUSTMENT, CENTRAL LOCKING, TOP TINTED WINDSCREEN, 16” FUCHS WHEELS WITH PAINTED WHITE CENTRES, HEADLAMP WASH, LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT CARPET TRIMMED IN BLACK VELOUR, REAR SEAT BELTS.

This is a real opportunity to own probably the best 911 Super Sport Edition coupe. It has an extremely low mileage, with its first owner enjoying the vehicle for the first 30 years. The last-of-the-line in traditional Porsches, these Carrera 3.2’s are the best way to deliver the famous air-cooled old-world Porsche driving experience. Evoking a time before power steering and other driving aids altered modern Porsches forever, this Porsche offers today’s lucky driver the authentic driving experience that made Porsche 911’s legendary.

The 911 3.2 had a redesigned engine inlet and exhaust system, along with the fitment of a service-free Digital Engine Management ignition system (DME), in conjunction with Bosch L-Jetronic fuel metering. This resulted in a significant increase in engine performance but a significant reduction in fuel consumption, through better engine efficiency and fuel cut-off when coasting. With a capacity of 3.2 litres, and a high compression ratio of 10.3:1, the air-cooled 6-cylinder, horizontally opposed engine produces an output of 230 bhp, at 5,900 rpm. Maximum torque is 284 Nm at 4,800 rpm, and the maximum speed, limited by electronic fuel cut-out, is 152 mph. Acceleration to 60 mph was achieved in under 6 seconds. This Super Sport Equipment or SSE model, is the popular Turbo-look variant, which combined the normally aspirated air-cooled 6-cylinder engine with the Turbo’s looks. The style that resembled the Porsche 930 Turbo with wide wheel arches and the distinctive “tea tray” tail spoiler also featured the stiffer Turbo suspension and the superior Turbo braking system as well as the wider Turbo wheels.

Supplied new by Swinford Motors (Midlands) Porsche, Stourbridge, the vehicle is as complete as one could imagine, with a wonderful service history file and its original sales invoice for £37143.88 The file includes its original book pack, service invoices and original paperwork. An ultra-low mileage example of the classic SSE that will be a genuine pleasure to own and show. A comprehensive 12-month warranty will also be included.

While the Supersport moniker never adorned any of the U.S. Carreras the package itself should be familiar to us under its option code: M491. Otherwise known as the Turbo-look package, these were made available, at least for U.S. buyers, as a substitute of sorts during the years the Porsche 930 was not sold in our market. You get the wider rear of the Turbo, along with front and rear spoilers, suspension and brakes. These were 911 Turbos, but without the turbocharging. Hence the name. So the model itself isn’t entirely unique to the U.S. market, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t rare and a Targa certainly is the model we see the least often.

This particular example sits with quite low mileage and shows long-term original ownership (though we should note it doesn’t sound like it is for sale by the original owner). It is said to be well documented and to come with its original paperwork. The condition also looks very good. The only thing I note is that the dash doesn’t look as pristine as we might hope. That could be just some effects of the lighting, but it looks a little scuffed. Otherwise, everything looks in very nice shape.

I’m far less familiar with the U.K. market, but the price asked here (around $155K) definitely is much higher than we’d see for a similar model in the U.S. market. Given the additional cost to import you’re looking at a seriously expensive Carrera and one that likely would cost you quite a bit more than an actual 930. So unless you really wanted to have a RHD Carrera, I’d imagine we’ll do nothing more than look at this Supersport. Still, it ain’t bad to look at.

-Rob

Deja Vu All Over Again: 1986 Audi Coupe GT

Edit 10/8/2017 – This car is back up again on a new auction with the vinyl removed and/or replaced. The seller removed their ~$5,000 asking price but the car has gone through several reserve auctions and not cleared $3,000.

Do you ever see a car and think it looks awfully familiar? Probably like a lot of you, I scan listings nearly every day, and every day provides a wealth of new examples of rare cars that encourages a lot of what we do here at GCFSB. But, once in a while, one pops up that sticks out like a sore thumb.

Now, being the chief (and only) Audi Coupe GT enthusiast in the world at GCFSB, I’m obviously prone to remembering these cars. Sure enough, with so few hitting the market these days I tend to remember every single example I’ve written up – meaning, basically every single example which comes to market – sorry about that.

But this one is particularly interesting. I immediately recognized the Team Dynamics wheels that this 1986 was wearing, but the two-tone paint color was off. Not many Oceanic Blue Metallic Coupe GTs are still kicking around, but at least the sides of this one were the neat and oh-so-80s-electric hue. But closer investigation of some of the details in the description revealed what I thought; this was the same GT I knew from the early 2000s. Originally, the car was Graphite Metallic with black leather – a rare combination on an infrequently seen car – and had been upgraded to participate in track events in Pennsylvania with a cage, a hotter NG motor, rear discs and upgraded suspension, those great looking Team Dynamics wheels and a few other odds and ends. Later it turned up on the West Coast with a notorious flipper of Audis; now with European H1/H4 lights and little else but failing paint, the flipper was looking to make a profit claiming it was one of the best GTs in the country. In 2015 it turned up on eBay with a Missouri dealer who had wrapped the car in matte blue vinyl to cover up the failing paint; otherwise, there were no changes. The car sold for $3,250 and was gone.

Well, it’s back again. Now apparently in Indiana with a repainted top section in what appears to be matte black and with what appears to be much brighter blue sides, the H1/H4 lights are gone replaced by standard 9004 U.S. spec lights and strangely the black leather late B2 interior has been swapped for a brown leather Quattro stripped interior. Otherwise, few miles have been accrued. The seller is looking now for $7,450 – some $4,200 more than they (or someone before them) paid a few years ago. While the Quattro interior is worth a pretty penny in good shape alone, the removal of the Euro lights and no other additions have me scratching my head as to where the value came from. Nevertheless, I enjoy a mystery from time to time, so here you can look back at what I wrote in 2015, including links to the original build of the car, and decide if it’s worth it for yourself.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Audi Coupe GT on eBay

The original post below appeared on our site in June, 2015
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1986 Audi Coupe GT with 3,390 Miles

If yesterday’s 76,000 mile Audi Coupe GT was impressive, today’s example is close to unbelievable. Yet here it is – a 1986 model with a scant 3,390 miles showing on the odometer. You’re probably used to seeing very low mile Porsche 911 models, and occasionally we see similar time capsule Mercedes-Benz or BMWs – but nearly never an Audi. Once again, it would be simple to default to the ‘broken odometer’ argument, but the evidence does seem to mount that this might be a fully original example. Welcome, then, to what is as close to a museum-quality example of a Coupe GT as might exist in the U.S.:

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Audi Coupe GT on Charleston Craigslist

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1986 Volkswagen Jetta GLI

Like its brethren GTI, in 1985 the Volkswagen Jetta GLI went a bit more upscale with the second generation of water-cooled performance. While the two shared most underpinnings between them, the Jetta was aimed at a slightly more upscale buyer. As a result, things like power windows, locks and mirrors and (gasp!) even an automatic transmission were available in the sedan but not the hatch. The GLI package, like the GTI, offered visual clues that greater performance lay under the hood; you got a red-striped exterior and alloy wheels outside. But unlike the GTI, VW omitted the blacked-out VW badges and the flashy “GLI” grill insert until later in the run. Inside, special velour sport seats, a multi-function display and standard power steering (it was optional in the rest of the range) with a leather-wrapped steering wheel helped to distinguish the model. But the meat of the meal was the added sport; the HT-code inline-4 was good for 100 horsepower and mated to a close-ratio 5-speed manual as standard. You also got disc brakes all around and an upgraded sport suspension with front and rear anti-sway bars. You could grab all of this fun for just a hair under $10,000 with no options – exactly $100 per a horsepower.

For 1986, power was up slightly to 102 with a new RD-code motor, again shared with the GTI. That massive power increase was met with a corresponding increase in base price to $10,190. Yet most reviews of the period felt that even at that price, the Jetta represented a great value; a perfect mix of sport and practicality with reasonably good build quality. The GLI of the period never sold quite as well as the GTI or caught on in quite the same way, though, so it’s a special treat to come across a clean and mostly original ’86 like this one:

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Volkswagen Jetta GLI on eBay

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1986 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16

The more I stare at the 2.3-16, the more I realize just how right Mercedes-Benz got it with the design of this car. The starting point was already a good one. The stock 190E, with its restrained, angular good looks and taut lines, brought Mercedes’s design language out of the 70s and firmly into the 80s. But the flared wheel arches, revised valences and rear deck spoiler found on the 2.3-16 turn the staid W201 into a car that looks ready to go racing. Which it did, first as a rally car and, when that didn’t work out, at the DTM. Power came from a version of the M102 2.3 liter four pot engine – later enlarged to 2.5 liters in the European market – breathed on by British tuning company Cosworth. But despite the looks and pedigree, the 2.3-16 has never attracted the same kind of attention or following as its obvious competitor, the E30 M3. The market for these is pretty spotty. They don’t appear very frequently and when they do, many of them have been battered and broken by neglectful owners. Still, every now and again a really nice one pops up.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 on eBay

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1986 Volkswagen GTI

Edit: After selling for $4,650 in the auction from June, this car has been relisted with a $4,750 Buy It Now.

Jumbo Shrimp. Act naturally. Hell’s Angels. Living Dead.

Oxymorons are part of our life to the point where we often don’t even consider their genesis, nor their contradiction. Yet these things pop up on regular basis and have become integral to our culture. Well, I’d like to add a few oxymorons to the list when considering this 1986 Volkswagen:

1) 1986 Volkswagen GTI 16V : Yes, it’s true that the 16V wasn’t introduced in the U.S. until the 1987 model year. Yet, here we have a well engineered, so-clean-it-looks-stock PL-code 1.8 16V swapped in.

2) Clean, well-presented Volkswagen: I know this one seems silly, but it’s really true – outside of the ridiculously clean (and ridiculously bid to $21,000!) 1987 Jetta Coupe , it is extremely rare to find crisp, well-maintained, well-photographed and detailed Volkswagens from the 1980s.

And, unfortunately for the seller but fortunate for us, there’s one more:

3) Buyer didn’t pay: This happens on a regular basis on eBay, but thankfully it offers us a chance to take a peek at the lovely condition:

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Volkswagen GTI on eBay

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1986 Porsche 930 Coupe

I’ve featured a few white 911s over the past weeks and I will return to that theme here with this Grand Prix White 1986 Porsche 930 Coupe. Truth be told, this one is far more about the interior than it is the white exterior. And boy does that interior create contrast! It is a to-sample Lobster Red leatherette. Porsche has offered plenty of bright red interior colors over the years and I think Lobster comes across as the brightest. Perhaps most gaudy is a better expression? Regardless, there is a hint of orange to the color – hence the name Lobster – that takes the shade to another level as compared with Can-can Red or Lipstick Red, which are really just a deep red. While all red interiors can be a little divisive, I would imagine Lobster Red is the most so. Here, where it’s contrasted with a white exterior, the almost blinding nature of the color really shows!

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 930 Coupe on eBay

Year: 1986
Model: 911 Turbo
Engine: 3.3 liter turbocharged flat-6
Transmission: 4-speed manual
Mileage: 46,400 mi
Price: $139,000 But It Now

This original one owner 930 will be sold with the original title and only 46,000 miles,that have been documented with service receipts and books porsche stamps since day one,also original bill of sale,Porsche certificate,original books and manuals.

This is one of those cars that you only get a chance to buy once in a life time.

Special wishes Lobster red full interior with sport seats

100% stock,never raced tracked just loved.

Always garaged and meticulously maintained

There is not much contrast in this interior so you have to really like Lobster Red to appreciate it. If I were to change one thing I think it would be the steering wheel. If that were black I think the contrast would be better. Some may also prefer the dash to be black, but I’ve never really liked how that’s comes out on a 911. The overall condition here looks really good and it appears this 930 has been well cared for throughout its life. I have mentioned previously that this seller tends to have a wide variety of interesting Porsches, but in many cases there’s some nagging flaw holding things back. In many cases it’s documentation. That does not appear to be the issue here, and in fact there are few apparent issues I can see. That doesn’t mean something won’t come up with further investigation, but we do at least have a nice start.

Still, the asking price likely will be too high unless there is someone out there who absolutely must have this color combination on a 930. If the mileage were a bit lower – not that it is at all high – then the price likely would be sustainable, but approaching 50K miles I don’t think an ’86 930 will see $140K.

-Rob

1986 Mercedes-Benz 300SL

The R107 arrived in 1971 and remained in production for an extraordinary 18 years, enough time to establish itself as a well-loved symbol of motoring decadence. Today, these roadsters remain usable and admired classics. The 300SL, available in Europe between 1985 and 1989, was never sold in the US. American buyers were therefore deprived of the six cylinder R107 experience, having to choose from a range of V8s instead. A shame, really. In many respects, the bulletproof 3.0 liter engine was a nice match for the chassis. The R107 was always more of a boulevard cruiser rather than a sports car anyway, so the 190 hp offered up by the creamy six cylinder unit is sufficient. With a little less weight up front, these tend to feel a little more agile than the V8-powered models. And aside from some well documented weaknesses (head gaskets, valve guides and stem seals) the M103 is a notoriously reliable motor.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300SL on eBay

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1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet – M491

The M491-equipped Carreras of the mid-80s are some of my favorite 911s to come across. They combine the aesthetics, suspension, and braking of the Turbo with the stout and reliable engine of the standard 3.2 Carrera. Not everyone wants a turbocharged 911, but some do prefer those other features. Of perhaps even greater appeal are those rare Carreras that combine the M491 package with the M470 front/rear spoiler delete option. That combination makes for one of the best looking 911s around. We almost never see one for sale.

However, these Turbo-look 911s find themselves in a difficult place in the market. 930 prices have come down for driver-quality examples and now are inching increasingly closer to the higher values of the M491 cars. At some point, the extra thrust of the Turbo might simply become too appealing. For collectors, the math is slightly changed as an M491 Carrera is more rare than those 930s and perhaps could make for a better long term option. Here we’ll take a look at one whose asking price falls squarely within that 930 range: a White Gold Metallic 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet, located in Tennessee, with Tobacco interior and 84,766 miles on it.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet – M491 on eBay

Year: 1986
Model: 911 Carrera Cabriolet
Engine: 3.2 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 84,766 mi
Price: Reserve Auction ($78,800 Buy It Now)

This gorgeous two owner factory M491 car is all it appears to be! The car comes with the original window sticker with a $53329.00 MSRP,$10248 was the charge for the 930 Performance body/chassis (M491).The car is as stunning in person as it appears in the pictures.The car has been well looked after with well documented services.The top is as new,the interior is better than pictures reflect with tight leather seats,void of cuts,scratches,or splits.The carpets are as new,the wheels are void of scratches and curb rash.The tires are a fresh set of Retro Bridgestone Potenzas.The car runs and drives as a well serviced Carrera should drive,nice deep throaty sound,tight suspension,good clutch and brakes.Review the 70 pictures posted,if you like the pictures,you will love the car.The color and body combo is so beautiful I could not stop taking pictures and yet I still did not capture how handsome this car is.The car is located in the Nashville Tn metro area,independent inspections are welcomed and encouraged.There will be an additional $99 assessed to the sale price for dealer doc fees.This and other European collectibles may be reviewed at JPFRAZIER.com.You may reach me at 615-971-4409

As far as presentation goes this Carrera Cabriolet performs quite well. It looks in really good shape inside and out and other than the steering wheel appears to be original. There’s no word on if the paint is original so that may be a first area of inquiry. The seats look great and show a high level of care. The color combination also is a very attractive one and fairly rare. So there’s a lot to like and while we aren’t provided details of its history in the ad text it does look to come with a decent bit of documentation, including the original window sticker.

Will all of that get us to nearly $80K? I suspect it won’t and bidding sits a good deal short of that right now at $55,002. While this 911 presents quite well the mileage is probably a bit too high to support that price. Either that or it’d need to be one of the rare G50-equipped Carreras from later years. Still this is a really nice example of these great cars. But at $80K you will have to ask yourself whether you might want to go the whole way and find yourself a 930.

-Rob

1986 Porsche 930 Coupe

We’ve seen a steady slow decline in prices of the Porsche 930 over the past year or so. While restricted primarily to the 1986-1988 model years, which lack the 5-speed manual of the ’89MY and lack the early significance of (especially) the 3.0 liter Turbo, it’s been a general feature of the whole range with only the rarest examples commanding significant premiums. This has coincided with a seeming increase in the number of 930s coming up on the second-hand market. In a sense that’s logical: greater availability of comparable options will reduce values. But it’s also a little strange because why sell if the market is going down? Unless you think those decreases will continue. That is the area I want to have an eye on and the example we see here might be signalling that further recessions in value are likely. Here we have a Silver Metallic 1986 Porsche 930 Coupe, located in New Jersey, with Blue leather interior and just 39,340 miles on it priced at a shade under $90K.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 930 Coupe on eBay

Year: 1986
Model: 911 Turbo
Engine: 3.3 liter turbocharged flat-6
Transmission: 4-speed manual
Mileage: 39,340 mi
Price: $89,000 Buy It Now

1986 Porsche 911 Turbo
Silver Metallic with Blue leather interior
Only 39,340 miles!4-Speed manual transmission
It has been well preserved by the same owner in Georgia since 2004!
This 911 Turbo looks amazing in its clean Silver Metallic paint.
The interior is incredible with soft leather seats, clean carpets and trim pieces. There are no tears, cracks, odors or overly worn areas to be found.

Options include California emissions, Limited slip differential & electric sunroof
Comes complete with its original owners & maintenance manuals, tool kit, spare tire & Certificate of Authenticity.

Clean CarFax report with no issues – the link to the full report is on our site.
2.49% financing for 60 months is available with qualified credit!
We will be happy to accommodate a Pre-Purchase Inspection at our location or at a local shop. We can arrange transport anywhere in the US.
Please contact Steven Sasson (212) 804-8070 or Steven@LegendCarCo.com

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With an asking price of $90K I’m not going to call this 930 inexpensive, or even undervalued, but with fewer than 40K miles and one of the less common interior colors it does seem to me a reasonable price and one that is lower than what we’d have previously seen. At the very least it makes a nice starting point to negotiate. As a counterpoint, we aren’t offered any description – something that seems strange from this dealer – and we see no evidence of documentation beyond the CoA. Without documentation $90K certainly will be too high a price. In addition, while the condition looks perfectly fine it also doesn’t stand out to me as exceptional. Contrary to the low mileage this 930 strikes me as a driver quality example and that in itself might call into question the standard of maintenance it has seen over its life. These are not small negatives, but they also don’t seem insurmountable obstacles either and could ultimately lead to a buyer stepping into a nice 930 that can be used for plenty of enjoyable miles.

I will admit there is risk here, but with some research, a PPI, and an in-person appraisal of its condition there could be enough information available to take comfort in that level of risk. If that means you can enjoy one of Porsche’s icons without having to spend crazy amounts – and without worrying over ever mile it’s driven – then so much the better!

-Rob