Tuner Tuesday Roll The Dice? 1986 Porsche 930 Ruf

A fair majority of our “roll the dice” features have been cars with high mileage, dubious modifications, or poor maintenance. The question marks are exchanged for, generally speaking, a budget price relative to the rest of the market.

This Porsche has none of that.

What we have here is a 1985 Porsche 930. Even if the air is cooling slightly in the 911 Turbo market, and while there’s probably only a premium on really original early and late examples, one from the middle of production like this isn’t to be shooed away immediately. Second, this car has really quite low mileage reported at under 15,000. Condition looks to be very good, and the car is marketed to be an originally Ruf-modified example. The price is certainly not budget-friendly for most outside of Wall Street. So where’s the rolling of dice to be seen?

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 930 on eBay

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1975 BMW 3.3 Li

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Along with the 2002, the New Six was BMW’s first attempts at branching out to buyers of other luxury vehicle brands, most notably their domestic rival, Mercedes-Benz. Comprised of the E3 sedan and E9 coupe, the New Six was a bit of a different animal than the competition from Stuttgart, aimed more at the driver than those who were seeking a more cosseting driving experience. A number of variants were offered, with the top of the range being the 3.3 Li. This long-wheelbase model packed a 3.3 liter inline-6 packing 190 horsepower and sharp handling that would put BMW on the map for those looking for a more engaging luxury sedan. This 3.3 Li for sale in Freiburg, Germany is one of a handful of these high-end E3s built, with barely 30,000 miles from new.

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1977 BMW 3.3 LiA

The BMW E3, or “New Six” was the grandfather to today’s modern 7 series. This was a car that helped BMW emerge from the brink of collapse post World War II and bring it towards the prosperity it experienced in the 1980s. While the stablemate E9 coupe is fairly sought after in today’s market, the E3 has flown a bit under the radar. This 1977 3.3 LiA is a late model build, as 1977 would be the last year for this model. The baton would then be passed to the E23 7 series would then take the top spot in the BMW range. While this is a right-hand drive model, this car was too nice to pass up for a feature, sitting pretty on Alpina rims in a handsome hue of Anthracite metallic.

Click for details: 1977 BMW 3.3 LiA on Classic Driver

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Tuner Tuesday: 1986 Porsche 911 Turbo DP 935

Ah, the DP 935. It’s a car that in the world of Porsche generates both enthusiasm and enthusiastic hatred of the modifications. There’s no denying that they were one of the more spectacular modified Porsches in the 1980s, though, and while Duran Duran seems to be playing in my head everytime I see one, I nevertheless love to find them. We last looked at a blacked-out and modified 1986 DP 935 almost exactly a year ago. Today’s model, like the all-black model from last year, is not 100% correct or the full-crazy European-spec slantnose, but the U.S. spec toned down package that retained the original bumpers. Also like that car, this example has non-original wheels and an engine rebuild/refresh. Is it the one to buy?

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 911 Turbo DP 935 on eBay

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1991 Porsche 911 Turbo – REVISIT

Perhaps a bit ahead of the market, six months after I initially wrote this 965 up it remains for sale at the same $74,995 asking price. It would seem that my original thought that it was a bit overpriced was on the mark. The color combination probably isn’t the most iconic 965 pallet, but it’s understated and pretty. What would you be willing to pay for this example?

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1991 Porsche 911 Turbo on eBay

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1991 Porsche 911 Turbo

The current 991 based Porsche 911 Turbo is a very impressive car. When you consider the humble roots from where the 911 originally developed years ago, one could hardly fathom back then that we would eventually have a 520 horsepower, all-wheel drive monster on our hands wearing a 911 badge. But for some, it’s a bit too digital. Sure it’s fast, but the visceral feeling of the air-cooled clatter and rear-drive setup is gone. As long as you don’t exploit the car’s true potential, most anyone could drive one of these cars semi-fast and look like a pro. Dial back two decades, though, and the hot 911 was not so user-friendly. These were the kind of cars that would bite if provoked. This 1991 911 Turbo would be the last rear-drive generation Turbo, as the final air-cooled 993 would adopt all-wheel drive.

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1991 Porsche 911 Turbo

While Porsche introduced all-wheel drive on the Carrera in 1989, it wouldn’t be until the 993 generation a few years later that Turbo 911 with all four wheels being driven would work its way into the lineup. Thus, in 1991, the rear-drive Turbo would have its last shout in the form of the 964. The first 964 Turbos, introduced in 1990, had an evolution of the 3.3 liter engine from the 930. It wouldn’t be until early 1993 when the 3.6 Turbo would arrive on the scene, of which less than half of the amount were produced in comparison to the 3.3 version. This early 3.3 Turbo is on offer in Texas, the perfect place to live out your Cannonball Run fantasy.

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My Kinda Porsche: 1979 930 Turbo

It’s taken me a while to really get into Porsches. I know that’s weird, especially for someone with an overall massive penchant for all Teutonic autos, but it just took me a while. Maybe it was my preference for the boxy shapes of 80s VWs, BMWs, and Audis, or perhaps it was the general association of the 911 as the go-to cliche sports car. Whatever the sickness was, I’ve been cured. I think the 964 cured me, and now I’m developing a healthy desire for nearly all generations. Still, the ubiquity of the Ultimate Sports Car can make it easy to zone out when perusing eBay’s Porsche section. Today’s cream-colored 930 Turbo jumped off the page at me, hitting all the right Porsche buttons for me.

The seller’s description:

Car Condition
Complete re-built engine and clutch by a certified Porsche mechanic, all doc’s available. Cross drilled 4-wheel disc brakes. 16″ forged Porsche wheels. 3.3 Liter 6-Cylinder Turbo engine. New Recaro black leather seats. Non-smoker. A Sports Car through and through with no gimmicks and no gadgets.

Exterior
Gorgeous overall condition. Body, Paint, Wheels, everything is in fantastic condition. Absolutely no rust anywhere on this vehicle and definitely a garage queen.

Interior
Gorgeous new Recaro black leather seats, all the power accessories work, including a CD player. The A/C is Ice Cold and the Heater works just as well..

Engine and Transmission
You turn the key and the vehicle comes to life almost immediately, give it a little gas feel the new clutch engage and the new re-built motor purr with no problems at all. Throughout all the gears this vehicle exhibits absolutely no problems, plenty of power and the race inspired brakes will not disappoint you either. This is a driving experience you will not forget. This is a fast car.

Misc.
Sacrifice – $60,000.00 plus has been invested in this vehicle. If you are looking for a good looking, great running, no issues fun car, this is it.

Fat fenders. Whale tail. Turbo lag. German car in white on black Fuchs. I’m sold. Bids starting at $20k with reserve on. If this is truly a hassle-free 3.3 Turbo, I think it can easily double that starting bid. With early 911 iterations a little too classic, and anything past the 964 a little too modern, the 930 strikes the happy medium for me with classic shape, scary speed, and the kind of dirty aggression that could only arise from the late 70s.

-NR

1992 Porsche 911 Turbo in the 964 Hunt

I struggled with the 964 scavenger hunt to be honest, but this in turn taught me an invaluable lesson on the challenge of finding that just right Porsche.  Perhaps owing to its longevity and continuous shape, the 911 is pretty much the ubiquitous sports car, and even for the relatively-educated model years and changes can blend together.  I love Porsches, but being more of a BMW/VW guy, I’ll bashfully admit that sometimes I’ve lumped them together as “another 911.”

Late-model, black on black RWD 964s are apparently not just “another 911.”  So this became an exciting scavenger hunt for me.  The closest example I could find was a Turbo, which probably puts it in the “too much money” category, but it’s still worth a good look because this is a beautiful car.  Low-mileage and pure early-90s Zuffenhausen sex, this is one of the best of the breed.

1992 Porsche 911 Turbo for sale on SF Craigslist

If Evan’s Lightweight 3.3 Turbo can go for ~$64k American, $48,800 for this immaculate 911 Turbo seems fairly reasonable.  The interior is impeccable and the exterior looks flawless, a black-on-black beauty.  It’s no bargain, but it’s not just another 911 either.

-NR

1991 Porsche 964 lightweight 3.3 Turbo

You are going to see several Porsche 964s this week as we all went out on a scavenger hunt for a reader/client request and I thought these would be worthy of posting.

My pick for this challenge hails from the United Kingdom. If money was no option you obviously go with the best you can afford. This 1991 964 isn’t the best money can buy, but at a £31,850 ask price it is getting up there. The car holds a resale value well as despite being in the U.K. it is left hand drive. This particular model is a lightweight version ready for track day with a cage, suspension work, and harnesses. It is a 3.3 turbo with 3.8 RS look body.

The vehicle appears to show some use, (is that rust around the engine compartment?), but the seller does not give mileage.

The seller, http://www.seanlockyear.co.uk, looks to specialize in some unique Porsches so I would bet it has been well sorted.  There are plenty of cheaper 964s out there, but I like that the seller describes this one as “Hang on it’ll be a wild ride!” I concur.

http://www.seanlockyear.co.uk/vehicledetails.php?VehicleID=22

~Evan