1992 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Targa

Yesterday I wrote up a 911SC priced at top market (perhaps even above top market) and I will stick with that general theme here simply as an exploration of where some of these high priced cars are selling. That 911SC probably shouldn’t have been priced as high as it was given its overall condition and mileage. It’s a nice car, just not top market.

However, this Guards Red 1992 Porsche 911 Carrera Targa is befitting of that sort of price. The question simply is just how high the market has reached because the asking price here is quite a bit above the standard 964 pricing we typically see. That’s not unheard of for the 964 Targa because they’re pretty rare and from my experience the vast majority really don’t seem to be in great shape and have much higher miles. If we remove those issues do we have a six-figure car? Here is where we might find out.

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1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe

I am going to return here to a long time favorite of mine: a Slate Grey Metallic 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe with only 23,863 miles on it. Here the Slate Grey Metallic exterior, which is the part of this 964 I most strongly prefer, is contrasted with a Linen interior. I’m not sure I’ve come across a similar example. Most have had Burgundy interiors. If I’m honest, I prefer the Burgundy, but there is something about the brightness conveyed by this Linen interior and I can see how it would be appealing. And unlike many of the Linen interiors we see on either a Cabriolet or a Targa this Coupe should be a little easier to keep clean since it is more insulated from the elements. Both exterior and interior look in nice shape and I think this looks like a nice early 964.

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1997 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe

This car grew on me quite quickly. When I first saw it I thought it was a nice enough 993 Coupe. The condition looks good and the mileage is pretty low. As I’ve looked at it more it’s not so much that any of those thoughts have changed, but rather that its overall appearance is much better than I thought. I believe I’ve said a few times before that I find white to be a color that works particularly well on some cars, while on others I don’t like it at all. I have never been able to figure out what makes such a stark difference to me – and I do think this is very much a personal thing.

As you’d probably guess I’m finding white to be particularly nice on the 993 and, of course, on this 993. Some of the 993 Turbos I’ve seen in white are even better! In this case it is the combination of interior and exterior that are really attracting me. This is a Glacier White 1997 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe, located in California, with Cashmere Beige interior and 58,690 miles on it.

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1994 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe

I’m starting to wonder if I’ve missed something with the 964 market. I’m speaking here of the standard models like the one we see here, not the various ultra-rare models that can command extremely high prices. Asking prices just seem way too high. The 964 indeed has become a more desirable model relative to its place among the air-cooled models only a few years ago, yet still while the rest of the market takes a few steps backward the asking prices for the 964 continue to go up. Perhaps it is because of those ultra-rare models and the significant premiums they command; sellers see a Turbo S fetching nearly $1M and think their Carrera 2 most certainly must be worth more than it is. Perhaps it’s the influx of RoW cars and the premiums those are commanding. I don’t know. Regardless, here again we have one that quite simply appears to be priced a good deal higher than it should be.

This is an Amazon Green Metallic 1994 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe, located in Pennsylvania, with Tan leather interior and 116,810 miles on it. To be clear, I like this 964. I think it’d probably make for a nice addition to anyone’s Porsche family. It looks in pretty good shape for the age and mileage and the color combination is a very attractive one – not eye catching and head turning, but subtle and quite pretty. I just don’t think it’s a $60K 911.

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1996 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe

Let me start by saying that I do like this 911. I like it quite a bit actually. It’s a Black 1996 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe with Tan interior and 38,769 miles on it. It looks to be in very nice condition, the mileage is low, it appears well cared for, and the colors – while not bold – are a combination I enjoy on almost any car. Even the modifications look to have been carried out well and pretty thoughtfully and the ad states that all of the original parts come with the car. So if you want to revert it to full originality, or just change out a couple of things here and there, then you have that option. I imagine it’s quite nice to drive as well!

All of that is good and I’ll go into some more details below. The problem: price. High asking prices aren’t an uncommon thing in the air-cooled 911 world, but this one just seems so high that I’m not sure what to make of it. You should easily be capable of finding a good 993TT for this money. I do wonder if part of the issue is the recency of the modifications, all stated to have been performed in the last 1K miles. Is the seller simply trying to recoup all of that expense? It’s the only thing that would make sense, but as we know you’re not getting your money back on modifications. So we have a nice looking, but high-priced 911. I feel like I’ve been here before.

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1993 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe

I can never really begrudge sellers who are overly effusive about the cars they are selling, but sometimes it does frustrate me. In most cases, this applies to cars I really like, but which I feel are being presented in the wrong way. (I have a similar frustration whenever I see an ad from Toyota talking about how sporty the new Camry feels.) But I do get it, they’re trying to sell something and appeal to certain emotions.

This 964, a Midnight Blue 1993 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe, falls into this category. I really like this 911; it looks great, the color combination is one that I really enjoy, and with a fairly recent engine rebuild we would hope it’s ready to roll and provide many more miles of excellent motoring. But it also has almost 150K miles on it so why should I care about collector appeal?

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Tuner Tuesday: 1992 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe RAUH-Welt Begriff

I’ve featured a few of RAUH-Welt Begriff’s Porsche creations, but this one might be my favorite. It’s an interesting mix of old and new, borrowing its colors and interior aesthetic from vintage Porsche hues and fabrics, then wrapping that in a body that is anything but vintage 911. In addition, unlike many of RWB’s builds this one has the performance to complement the wildly aggressive design.

For this build they used a 1992 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe. The design remains unmistakably that of Akira Nakai with its swooping hand-formed curves, very wide fenders, and huge wing. Under the hood this is a very different beast with the standard 3.6 liter flat-six now built to 3.8 liter RSR specs. I’m always curious if such statements mean precisely what they say because I believe that would mean around 350 hp from this engine. At the very least we can assume there’s going to be a decent bit of extra power going to the rear wheels.

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1991 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe

Let’s stick with yesterday’s blue theme and take a look at another of Porsche’s really nice blues. Here we have a Cobalt Blue Metallic 1991 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe, located in Houston, with a light grey and blue interior and 74,452 miles on it. As should be immediately apparent, Cobalt Blue is a very pretty and striking shade of color. It doesn’t jump out at you as much as Minerva Blue does since it’s a darker shade, but though it may be more reserved it none the less shines brightly and exudes plenty of character. On the much more modern lines of the 964 – modern relative to an early 930 – it looks great bringing both elegance and excitement to this 911’s curves. It helps that this one looks in very nice shape!

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1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe – RoW Sunroof Delete

Let’s continue with yesterday’s theme and look at another 911 that originated outside of our shores. Here we have a Japanese market Forest Green Metallic 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe, located in California, with Black interior and a very low 32,200 kilometers on it. Of additional import this Carrera 2 does not have a sunroof. The seller has listed it as a sunroof delete – and I’ve followed suit – but properly speaking I think we’d say this 911 didn’t have the sunroof selected as an option, rather than deleted. It gets us to the same point though.

We’ve seen a few of these Japanese market 964s come up lately – I’ve even featured one – and they certainly make for a nice departure from the US versions. This particular example looks fantastic!

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Year: 1990
Model: 911 Carrera 2
Engine: 3.6 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 32,200 km (19,900 mi)
Price: $119,990 Buy It Now

1990 Porsche 911/964 Carrera 2 Coupe
Euro/Rest of World Edition
Sunroof Delete/Manual Trans/LSD
Numbers Matching
Stock #0882

VIN# WP0ZZZ96ZLS403967
ENG# 62L07426 (M64/01)
TRN# 1L03261 (G50/03)
Numbers Matching
19,900 Original Miles (32,200 kilometers)
Forest Green Metallic (L22E) on Black Partial Leather/LT
5-speed G50 Manual Transmission with LSD
Clean and Clear Montana Title
1-Owner from New
Imported by the Famous Mitsuwa Motors of Japan
Porsche Certificate of Authenticity

The Porsche 964 market has caught the attention of collectors and enthusiasts. It was really the beginning of the modern version of the 911. Some of the most significant changes in the 911’s history began with this model. Torsion bar suspension was replaced with an adjustable coil-over setup. Power steering was added. The A/C system was updated and much more effective. The new twin-plug 3.6L engine made these cars wonderful around town with great low-end power. The changes were extensive and really made these examples some of the best all-around driving 911s. In particular, the Rest of World (ROW) models are considered the best. They are lighter, the suspension is better, and they look better. Now with the U.S. 25-year import law in effect, these cars are finally legal for the American market.

This C2 was built on January 3rd, 1990 and imported by Mitsuwa Motors of Japan. This company was the legal importer for all Porsche cars entering the Japanese market for decades. This Porsche was ordered with the following factory options:

Special order paint (Forest Green Metallic)
Rear Wiper
Air Conditioner
Bridgestone Tires
Limited Slip Differential (dealer installed)

This 964 lived with one owner from new in Osaka, Japan. Recently, it was imported to the United States. Prior to being shipped, the Porsche dealer in Japan performed a major service.

Furthermore, the air-conditioning system has also been serviced and it blows cold. The car was fully detailed and a ceramic paint protection coat was applied. This is a process that costs over $3,000 and seals the paint from contaminants.

The exterior looks fantastic and shows minimal signs of use. It is indicative of a low-mile example. The body panels have been checked with a paint meter and verified original except for some paint blending on the right rear fender and right door. The paint work was done due to some dents and scratches. Visually, the match is spot on and the only way you can tell is with a meter. The glass is all original including the windshield and looks near new. The wheels are wrapped in older Dunlop tires that should be replaced soon. The front brakes are new and the rears have about half-life remaining. All the exterior lights function properly. The headlights have HID bulbs. The rear power wing operates as it should and the accordion plastic part is in good condition (see pic). The exterior of these ROW cars looks fantastic. The bumpers are cleaner and the side European marker lights add a nice touch. Also, the ride height is lower and gives it a more aggressive stance and better handling.

The engine compartment is clean and tidy. The engine has recently been serviced by Porsche. All the proper factory decals are in place. The engine sound pad is in excellent condition as well. The underside is also clean and still has all of its plastic undercarriage panels in place.

The interior is equally as nice and also reflective of the low miles. The leather seats are in excellent condition with just some light bolster wear with no tears. The carpet, door panels, and headliner all look fresh. The dash is perfect with no cracks or warping. An aftermarket Japanese stereo has been installed. It powers up and plays, but the FM tuning does not work in the U.S. market. The A/C blows cold. All the gauges operate properly. The clock keeps time as well. All the interior lights and buttons function as they should.

It’s hard to put a finger on why these cars drive so nice, but they feel much tighter and more responsive than their North American counterparts. This example starts easily with the first twist of the key and holds an even idle. The power is immediate and has excellent low-end torque. The lightened flywheel really helps free up the motor’s rpms. The power assisted steering is a welcome addition, yet it still provides plenty of road feel and feedback. Turn in is precise and the car tracks straight. The LSD helps with applying the torque on the exit from turns. Some fresh tires would improve handling even more. The brakes have great initial bite with no fading or pulling. The gearbox shifts smoothly with no grinding or slipping.

This example is truly a rare site to see stateside and would certainly gather a crowd at your local cars and coffee. Meanwhile, it is easy enough to use daily and a blast in the canyons. This would make a great driver for distance touring events or even showing at your local concours events.

This 964 comes with its original owner’s manuals, Certificate of Authenticity, space saver spare, jack, air compressor, extra key, and tool kit.

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I also should note that this same seller has another non-sunroof Carrera 2 available. In many ways it is very similar. I chose to feature this one because the color is a little more unique so I like it better. But, if you prefer black, there’s one available.

The asking price for both of these 911s is very high and I’ll be pretty curious to see whether either can sell. Even given the condition and very low mileage it’s still tough to consider moving above six figures for a Carrera 2, regardless of its various unique qualities. For comparison, the Slate Grey Japanese Carrera 2 I featured had an asking price of $78K. It sold, presumably for a price close to asking since I don’t think it was available all that long. It also had no sunroof, but at 74K kilometers it’s mileage definitely was higher. So we’ll have to factor that in, but that still leaves me wondering if lower mileage is worth this much of a premium. Nonetheless, this is a really nice looking RoW Carrera 2 and certainly one that will start some conversation with anyone who sees it.

-Rob

1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Cabriolet

Previously I featured a 930 with a Marine Blue exterior over a Linen interior. Here we’re going to sort of turn that inside out. We now have the Linen on the outside and we have the dark blue serving as accents to the interior and the convertible top. It’s not a full reversal of colors since the primary interior color is light grey. It’d have been fantastic if the interior were all dark blue though. I can imagine that would have provided for a very captivating contrast.

This is a 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Cabriolet, located in California, with 83,478 miles on it. The color combination isn’t bad, but it is a bit monotone. As we can see, when used as an exterior color Linen isn’t quite silver, nor is it quite white or gold. It’s a little bit of all of them. In the sun it shines really well, but it still looks good in the shade. All together it doesn’t look too bad, though it is very much on the refined/elegant side of the spectrum. There isn’t much that’s aggressive about this 911, but that’s ok.

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Year: 1990
Model: 911 Carrera 2 Cabriolet
Engine: 3.6 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 83,478 mi
Price: Reserve Auction ($41,500 Buy It Now)

Chequered Flag International is pleased to offer the 1990 Porsche 964 Cabriolet in Linen Grey with light Grey interior and Dark Blue soft top. 1 owner from new with 83,478 miles, clean Carfax. Mechanically excellent and a delight to drive. Just checked and serviced by us and less than 4k miles ago it had over $10k spent on a full engine reseal that involved disassembly, replacement of all common wear items and reassembly, plus fuel pump, soft top cables, etc. Very good body with good paint. All stickers in place including option code sticker under the hood. Nice interior with un-cracked dash, good door panels and great original light color seats that do show wear more than darker ones – nothing bad just patina. Windows, seats and top work well. Comes with its books – service book has option code sticker and is stamped to 39k miles., Copious records from new to present day, its soft top boot, jack and tools. This is a much better car than is typical for a slightly higher mile 964. Great value and a very user friendly classic Porsche to own or collect. Inspections encouraged. All sales AS-IS. Sales tax and license fees due if delivered in California.

This 911 gets me back into my value shopping groove. It certainly isn’t pristine as we can tell from the various bits of interior wear. There don’t appear to be any major issues, but the wear does show on the driver’s seat pretty well. The seller has taken the optimistic route and called it patina. Maybe, maybe not. But as I said, there don’t appear to be any tears and other significant issues so we can probably live with it at this sort of price. The exterior looks in nice shape. These types of colors tend to hide dirt pretty well, but even so the paint looks good. We aren’t told whether it’s original paint so that will be worth asking, but this 911 isn’t destined for the collector bin so a respray likely won’t be too troubling, unless there’s some significant accident lurking in its history.

The best news about it is that it’s said to come with plenty of records from new. I doubt those records are exhaustive since sellers typically indicate that, but hopefully those records along with its recent servicing will provide enough insight and peace of mind to be comfortable with its present mechanical condition. As for price, bidding is only at $28,500, but even the $43,500 BIN price seems fair for a 964 Cab with this mileage. If it were a coupe it’d probably have sold pretty quickly at this price so if you prefer to cruise top down you get a discount!

-Rob