While for a few generations it’s been fairly predictable that newer used Mercedes-Benz models are cheaper than the older, well kept models, there’s been an interesting turn in the market over the past 6 months. We are witnessing a trend of ever increasing prices on all the 1980s iron, but really specifically in the Mercedes-Benz world the R107 is on the rise fastest of all. In a 5 month period, Hagerty has re-assessed its evaluation of the model’s worth, with most models doubling or tripling in value seemingly overnight. What was, in 2014, a $10,000 – $15,000 example will be on the market for double that today, or more. Is the R107 the next E30, or is this simply a demand spike that recognizes some of the best built and engineered Benz models produced? Well, it certainly does beg the question – if you were going to spend $30,000 on a R107, what other classic Mercedes-Benz models would fall into that range. For comparison, I lined up a lovely W111 coupe to consider – nearly the same miles, condition and asking price, and both are Euro-spec manuals. Which would be your choice?
The words “authentic” and “original” become quite contested when it comes to 1980s AMG products. That’s mostly because, in truly un-Germanic fashion, most of the records of the early AMG cars were lost in the move from an independent company to incorporation in the Daimler-Benz Goliath. That’s really unfortunate, because it opens the opportunity for interpretation; without documentation, how is one supposed to truly show that their car is an original modified version? There are also questions about what level of modification makes a “authentic” AMG; because, technically, you could buy a steering wheel, wheels and aerobits from an authorized dealer in the 1980s and be able to claim it’s an original car. But the big money tends to be reserved for the cars that were fully modified with upgraded engines, suspension, interior and exterior upgrades. We’ve seen a few of these variously modified SECs cross these pages, and today we get to look at another. This one straddles the middle ground of mods; a steering wheel, reportedly correct “Penta” wheels, and aerodynamic bits adorn this European market 500SEC, but the car also has the correct AMG suspension as well. With lower miles, will this 1980s spectacular dipped white example set the market ablaze?
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1984 Mercedes-Benz 500SEC AMG on eBay…
With our resident Mercedes-Benz expert Paul out of the country, we’re going through a bit of a classic Mercedes-Benz drought here at GCFSB. I’ve tried to fill in a few gaps, but the reality is that Paul has a knack for finding the best examples of the stars from Germany. So until he comes back, you’ll have to make due with our admittedly second-tier examples, two of which we’ll feature today and both of which at W116s. Right now I have a one of the lesser examples – a 1979 350SE. It doesn’t have the big 6.9 motor and it’s not the long wheel base, but it’s a slick Euro model which appears clean – so certainly worth a look:
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1979 Mercedes-Benz 350SE on eBay…
If you missed Paul’s MerCamino earlier today, I’ve got another strange conversion for you. The 1980s were a heady time for “tuners”, some of which made some downright odd creations and others of which took existing really good cars and just…well, made them worse. One of the best ways to wreck a good car is to chop the roof off, and making cabriolet or roadster versions of coupes seemed to be a sure tuning bet in the 1980s. We got convertible versions of the Quattro, Porsche 928, BMW 6 series – heck, even the Ferrari Testarossa wasn’t immune. But if you wanted luxury and sun for 4, of course you needed a Mercedes-Benz 500SEC convertible. And while you’re there, why not throw in some AMG bits. “What?”, you say, “But I’ve never seen one!” Search no more:
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1989 Mercedes-Benz 500SEC Convertible on eBay…
About a month ago I wrote up a AMG-modified grey market 500SEC that scared people with it’s chromed Pentas, blacked out windows and questionable history. But perhaps if you can get by the again all-caps ad copy, this cranberry-colored grey market 1983 will be the one for you. Sporting the requisite AMG bits and period correct color-matched wheels, this 500SEC certainly looks the part – and the Moby Dick sized stack of receipts may mean this is the not-so-white whale you’ve been looking for:
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1983 Mercedes-Benz 500SEC AMG on eBay…
In my post about last week’s 2JZ swapped M5 many questioned why you would go through the expense and difficulty of swapping in the Toyota unit, or at least that it was downright sacrilegious to do so. Perhaps I have a looser sense of how to do things the proper way, but I certainly can recognize that the 2JZ unit is capable of higher levels of power than the original S62 V8 was for less money, and that at least makes some sense to me even if I wouldn’t do it. When I first came across today’s E34 M5, I was initially struck with awe, but as I’ve sat wondering what to write up about this car, that awe has slowly turned to a bit more confusion. The reason why is fairly straightforward – some enterprising individual has taken a quite nice Euro-market E34 M5 (great start) and swapped in the equally great S70B56 V12 from a 850CSi along with a 6 speed manual transmission. Take a look for yourself at this monster:
Engine: 5.6 liter V12
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 76,000 mi
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1993 BMW M5 S70 swap on Willz.Ca
Model: 1993 European M5 chassis
Build Date: June 1992
Mileage: 76,000 miles
Motor: 5.6L 850 CSi engine (S70B56) conversion
Interior: black leather mechanical sports seats, leather stitched center console and door skins
Transmission: new 6 speed manual
Brakes Front: 2-piece, 355 (14″) rotors UUC 4 piston aluminum calipers
Brakes Rear: vented 328mm (12.9″) rotors
Wheels: 17 x 8 forged system II
Tires: 235-45 and 275-40 Dunlop Sport 5000
Features: front strut bar, HR springs, uprated sway bars, UUC short shifter, Eisenman stainless exhaust, in dash CD
Options: single air bag, ABS, rear deck wing, rear window shades, E code headlights, clear blinkers, Motorsport door handles
Comments: Hand built custom driveline by Brett Anderson from Koala Motorsport, Cleveland OH.
We’ve featured some neat and rare cars in the “Heap of the Week” feature, and here’s another seldom seen model that is in need of your love. When I look for these cars, I often feel like looking through the ads should be accompanied by soft Sarah McLachlin “Arms of the Angel” playing in the background. There are plenty of hard luck cases that it would just be great to save. For example, this week there was a neat Karmann Ghia coupe and there always seem to be plenty of rusty buses available. There also always seem to be a glut of older Mercedes-Benz models that someone thought they would restore and never completed. Such is the case with today’s rare 220 SE Coupe. 1965 was the last year of the 220 SE as they shifted towards larger engines in the W111. Correctly done, they’re very pretty and stately Coupes, with a pillar-less design that seems elegant compared to later models. Today’s example is in need of a hefty amount of work, but is available for a low purchase price:
Model: 220 SE Coupe
Engine: 2.2 liter inline-6
Transmission: 3-speed automatic
Mileage: N/A mi
Price: $4,500 Buy It Now
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1965 Mercedes-Benz 220 SE Coupe on Ebay
VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED FOR A RESTORATION PROJECT YEARS AGO BUT WAS NOT COMPLETED.
PARTS CAR OR PROJECT. NO CALIFORNIA TITLE. IMPORTED FROM GERMANY IN 1983 CUSTOMS DUTY PAID BUT NO TITLE WAS EVER ISSUED. CAR IS LEGALLY IN CALIFORNIA UNITED STATES BUT NOT REGISTERED OR TITLE ISSUED.
1965 220SEB, ORIGINALLY PURCHASED FROM GERMANY IN 1983 AND SENT TO LOS ANGELES, WHERE IT HAS BEEN SINCE. ENGINE WAS RUNNING AROUND 5 YEARS AGO AND HAS NOT BEEN STARTED AFTER. ALL PARTS PICTURED ARE INCLUDED WITH PURCHASE.
If you wanted a Porsche 911 Turbo in 1985 in the U.S., you were out of luck; Porsche, intent on pushing the 928 as the premier car in its lineup and saddled with increasingly tough emissions regulations had pulled the 930 from the U.S. lineup in the early 1980s. That didn’t stop many individuals from seeking them out and importing them directly from Europe. With a reputation for being a widow-maker, early 930s still captivate the motoring masses with supercar slaying performance and brutish good looks. Like most of the 911 range, prices have steadily been on the rise and these are a go-to for collectors. Today’s example looks excellent in Guards Red with some Ruf details:
Engine: 3.3 liter turbocharged flat-6
Transmission: 4-speed manual
Mileage: 59,061 mi
Price: $45,000 Buy It Now
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1985 Porsche 930 on eBay
Selling my 1985 Porsche 930 Turbo with 59K original miles. Eurospec 3.3L engine. 4 speed manual transmission. Guards red exterior with black leather interior. VERY CLEAN! I am the 3rd owner since 2004 and have driven this vehicle less than 100 miles since I have owned it. Always garaged and NO OIL LEAKS! Have all the DOT / EPA documents. Car is California registered since 2005. DOT states there were only eleven of these 1985 Porsche 930 Turbo’s imported into the US in 1985. Quite a rare and fun vehicle to own. Only selling as I am buying a new house and need the garage space for my new golf kart as I am retiring soon. Hoping a car collector or Porsche enthusiast will buy this beautiful classic Porsche. Getting harder and harder to find these Eurospec Porsche 930’s in the USA! RUF and performance upgrades are listed below:
Upgraded H4 Headlamps
Upgraded floor mats to RUF
Upgraded steering wheel to RUF
Upgraded stock turbo to a K-27 turbo
Upgraded to front strut tower supports
Upgraded stock exhaust to GHL Dual Exhaust
Upgraded stock headers to B&B Stainless Headers
Upgraded stock intercooler to larger GHL Intercooler
Upgraded stock turbo bar spring to 1.0 bar spring in waste gate
Upgraded to Andial Fuel Enrichment System due to the headers & 1.0 bar spring
Upgraded rims to RUF 5 spokes (powder coated matte black) with near new Kumho racing tires
Upgraded stock radio to Alpine Cassette / Denon Amp (period correct) & Boston Acoustics subwoofer system
Vehicle VIN: WP0ZZZ93ZFS000081
Air conditioning system needs to be re-charged.
Before you start furiously typing “C4 S6 production ended in 1995”, let me clarify something – it didn’t, and this car is from Canada. Satisfied, eh? We’ve covered a string of S6s recently, mostly focusing on the wagon variant that most people desire. However, there are some sedan fans out there, and the S6 made a very capable sedan as well. These cars have remained consistently under their competitors prices despite good looks, solid build quality, all weather capacity, and nearly unlimited tuning potential. Today’s example is a very clean high mile driver in the very popular (at the time) Emerald Green Mica:
Engine: 2.2 liter turbocharged inline-5
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 380,000 km (235,000 mi)
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1996 Audi S6 on Fourtitude
For sale my dad’s Audi S6 (Canadian Import) he has owned the car for almost 5 years now, it has been very well maintainted and a lot of $$$$ has been invested in the past 2 years. My dad used the car as a commuter to Lon Island but has recently started working from home so the car barely gets driven, and parking in the area he lives is not the greatest (can bee seen on the rear bumper) In the past 2 years or 10K miles the following parts were replaced
Rack-Pinion with Tire Rods
4 shocks+springs+Strut Mounts(lowered the car 1.2″ Weitech Combro from Germany)
Both Lower Control Arms
Complete Timing Belt Kit (belt Tensioner Rollers Water Pump Thermostat)
Serpentine Belt and Serpentine Belt Tensioner
Spark Plugs and all Filters
Gas Tank + Fuel Pump
Clutch Kit + Slave and Master Cylinders
4 Tires (Kumho LX Planitum All season tires)
Performance Mods include
Stage 1 034 EFI ECU+Injector Set
Full custom build Magnaflow Exhaust System (High flow Car Rosonators and rear Muffler)
European Headlights and turn signals with HID Lights
OE Audi S6+ Grille with front and rear Badges
Samco Intercooler Hose
The car has 380.000 Kilometes or 235,000 Miles which for these cars is perfectly normal.
The BMW E9 chassis was a tough act to follow; gorgeous simplicity, solid performance in street trim and a world contender and winner in the European Touring Car Championship. The E9 was also the basis for the first two BMW “Art Cars”, bringing the maker to a new medium and market. Clearly, Paul Bracq had his work cut out for him designing a replacement, but if he hadn’t already, he would prove himself more than worthy. The E24 launched in 1976, and like the Porsche 928, the design would prove to be advanced for the time.
Initially available in Europe as the carbureted 3.0 630CS, over its production run the E24 gained horsepower, luxury, sprouted spoilers and larger wheels, and became a serious performance machine in M6 guise. Few U.S. enthusiasts even remember the 633CSi, never mind the fuel injected version of the 3.0 that introduced the U.S. to the E24 in 630CSi form. Perhaps that’s because the emissions equipment that was fitted robbed the car of performance, but to me, the prettiest of the E24s are the early, simple cars without the all the spoilers. Thanks to the grey market, a few of the carbureted 3.0 CSs made it to the U.S.. Even fewer survive today thanks mostly to rust and depreciation, but occasionally one of the original sharks surface, like today’s very rare 630CS:
Engine: 3.0 liter inline-6
Transmission: 4-speed manual
Mileage: 42,000 mi
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1977 BMW 630CS on Classiccar.com
BMW 630 CS Coupe, Black, for sale in Griffin, Georgia, for $15,900. Exterior paint finished in Schwarz Black complemented by a Saddle leather interior. It is truly in mint, pristene condition, both mechanically & cosmetically with just 42,000 miles. Features 4-speed manual transmission, factory a/c, chrome alloy wheels, power antenna, rear power windows, Clarion am-fm cassette radio, coco mats.
In the 1980s, it was a heck of a lot easier to get European spec cars into the U.S., as witnessed by the still substantial amount of them that can be found for sale. Most were European market BMWs and Mercedes-Benz models that weren’t available here, although cars from France, Italy, Japan and even South Africa also made it in. But as rules tightened and U.S. product line offerings improved and expanded, owner importation of cars from Europe slowed down. Now, it has become labor intensive and expensive to bring one of these models over, to the point where many enthusiasts spend countless dollars recreating Euro-spec cars rather than federalizing one from Europe. The Audi RS offerings before the RS6 are perfect examples of this; many Audi fans have built their own RS2 (in coupe guise) and RS4 replicas from U.S. spec cars. There were some die-hard individuals, however, who were not dissuaded from the difficulties of importing the “real deal” cars. If I had gone through that trouble it would be for a car I was never going to sell again; but lucky for us, some of these newer imports come up for sale from time to time. Today’s RS4 is an example of one such rarity:
Engine: 2.7 liter twin-turbocharged V6
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Mileage: 61,000 mi
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2001 Audi RS4 Avant at 2Bennett Audimotive
2001 RS4 Avant- Black Leather interior with Carbon Fiber trim
Fully federalized and legally registered in USA.
Almost flawless. Well maintained. Major restoration last year. Navigation updated to Nav plus, 2B turbo back 3″ exhaust, body is very nice, front seats just upgraded to Recaro with more power features, brakes are new, 2B Coil Program height adjustable suspension, just installed MTM software and performed a complete timing belt group replacement.
I am a sucker for imported cars. Somewhere in the rat trap that is my mind this equation exists, Euro stuff>Stuff we can get here. It can be anything, if it comes from Europe is has to be better, right? I mean why else would we be paying $1,000 for this? OK, that I actually get.
Anyhow, here we have a 1982 Volkswagen Polo. The owner states it is the only one in the states, which is, um, false.
I’ll forgive the seller’s enthusiasm, this is a pretty neat car.
From the seller –
“let me start off by saying the car runs and drives 110% very well kept never sleeps out side and turns heads everywhere…
i have all documentation clean New Jersey title in hand
i also have all dealer service records from points of origin
i am asking for best offer so don’t be shy make a offer that is respectful and you just mite be the proud owner of the only polo in the US from what i no
the car has 81000 miles on it every thing is original the only mods that i have done was..
1. side exit exhaust
2. 15″ bbs rs
it has a 1.3 liter motor and 4 speed Manual trans.”
As great looking as this car as this is, and it is beautiful. It is packing a 1.3L mated to a 4 speed transmission. That is going to be sluggish, like Zastava slow. I can think of a lot of other cars I would rather drive for $10k.
But, it’s imported so by all means I completely understand the cool factor here. Now, about that Jamon…
Update 2.13.2012:The owner reports this car is now sold. Congrats on the sale! -dc
You can buy a worn out SC all day long. Bad paint, worn interior, and a shot motor. Something like that could run you about $13k. You would have a 20 footer that would smoke like a refinery, but hey you saved a few bucks.
Or, you can spend a little more and have something like this…
From the seller –
“1982 Porsche 911 SC Sunroof Coupe, Guards Red, Black leather
Approx. 97,000 miles, (replacement speedo installed, I have broken one)
Southern car, only one season in New England garaged, never driven in bad weather.
I believe I am 3 or 4th owner.
Have records back to 1990 or so, all indexed in a spreadsheet.
Car was a Euro Delivery, driven for 3-4 years in Belgium, have all records for Euro service.
Orig. owner’s manual with services performed in Belgium
Top end rebuild 10,000 miles ago
Carrera chain tensioner upgrade, head studs
SSI stainless header, heater boxes
Pop off Valve
Momo Steering wheel
Fuchs 16″ with Black petals
Lowered to Euro ride height
New Yokahama S Drives
Updated AC compressor
Respray approx. 8-10 years ago, looks like a glass out job. Paint 8/10, nice 10 footer.
Full leather interior redone 10 years ago, in excellent condition, including headliner, new dash top.
New fuel pump
New clutch cable
Replaced heater hoses with Aircraft Scat silicone
I looked for a 911 for a year; probably saw 10-12 cars before this one.
Previous owner was Porsche guys, owned 5-6 before this one, drove it sparingly for 7 years.
I purchased in the Fall of 2010.”
Rebuild, re-spray, and newer interior would be reason enough to consider this SC. Records, recent maintenance, and a knowledgeable owner is just icing on the cake. …
This is a very early W126 380SE, perhaps the earliest in the country.
The W126 wasn’t available in the states in 1980 so this car is a grey market model so you get the nice flush headlights.
The car has had an interesting past as the owner says it was sold by the the Southern California Police Department. It appears the car has seen some extended time in storage, but has since had some maintenance work, $3,000 worth, to get it back to road worthy status. It has covered 77,000 miles, always questionable with imported cars without good records. The car has some AMG parts, rims, body kit, AMG look steering wheel. It also has white faced gauges and upgraded front seats, as well as a rear sun curtain. The stereo has been replaced with a more modern unit. I’m not a big fan of white cars, particularly ones with gold accents as this one has with all the gold badging. I do like the monochromatic look though with the painted grille, window trim, and wheel faces.
The ad is pretty weak, the seller doesn’t once mention the model Merc this is. The vin indicates it is a 380SE. Under the hood you can see the compact V8, it is missing a piece of the intake snorkel. There also appears to be an aftermarket alarm siren on the left side. It looks like a little cleaning under the hood could make things look a little fresher.
The oddest thing I notice from the pictures is there appears to be something funky going on with the passenger side panel fit. Maybe this is a photo artifact, but things look a little wavy and I’d want to look at that more closely and judging by the description that comes off as a little inexperienced, I’d want that looked at in person or by an agent rather than by the seller.…
Prices of the venerable Merc 116s are continually creeping up. 30+ years later and these sedans still can hold their own. Some may say they fall in no man’s land right now. Comfortable daily driver? Classic vintage saloon? Outside of the 6.9 they aren’t that expensive to fix and are easy to maintain.
The car featured here is a rare bird in the states. The Euro only 3.5 liter V8 is lighter on its feet and had a higher compression ratio than the U.S. 4.5 liter V8. Couple that with the shorter wheel base SE model and you have your self a nice little package. The peppy, compact 3.5 liter unit, most believe is one of the better to have tucked under the wood of a W116. If the car had the manual instead of the auto transmission that package would truly be complete.
This being a grey market car it features the body hugging bumpers. Unfortunately, sometime during the federalization process the car got U.S. headlamps and the owner didn’t switch back in the Euro units.
This 350SE has the velour interior, which was common on Euro cars, even the top of the line 6.9. The sunroof is an interesting option, apparently put in instead of air conditioning, note the single dial climate system. The Becker Monza right below the climate controls wasn’t the best looking W116 radio option, the Mexico I think looks better.
Finding one of these in this nice shape, in Euro trim, in the states, with a measly 57,000 miles on the clock does not happen every day. You’d actually have to do some decent searching to turn up a similar one of these. A no reserve auction with low opening, currently the price is just over $1,500, is a fantastic deal. The seller seems to describe the car as being in great shape, but that price is so cheap it makes me want to check it out in person.…