Heap of the Week 2: 1987 Audi 5000CS Quattro

Recently the plethora of good condition Audi Coupe GTs and 4000 quattros have drawn into sharp contrast the relative lack of 5000s that seem to come up for sale. One of our Facebook comments noted this; it’s just become very rare to see Audi 5000 quattros for sale, or indeed 5000 quattros at all! The 5000 was an interesting counterpoint to the BMW and Mercedes-Benz large sedans. It was extremely aerodynamic for the early 1980s, offered good luxury items and the awesome quattro drivetrain. For enthusiasts, it was turbocharged and ran effectively the same motor as U.S.-bound Quattro coupes and came only in a manual. The early 5000s, like the 4000 quattro, had manual engaged locking differentials for serious snow. Despite these specifications, the 5000 suffered serious depreciation following the farcical and infamous 60-minutes “Unintended Acceleration” story and few seem to have survived. Today there is a good basis for sale on Ebay, though it’ll require some work to get it back to it’s former glory:

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1988 Volkswagen Quantum GL5

Love the recently featured Audi Coupe GTs and Audi 4000 Quattros? Well, if they’re quickly getting out of your price range there is an option few think of that combines the GT and 4000 into a unique package. Although the 4000 front wheel drive was offered early on with a 5-cylinder engine, after 1982 if you wanted that rally-bred inline-5 you had to get a Coupe GT – or did you? The revised and slightly restyled Quantum offered the 5-cylinder engine as well in “GL5” form, both front and all wheel drive. They’re rare to find in good shape and most hold out for the Syncro wagons, but if you’re looking for a unique daily driver Volkswagen this GL5 in Tornado Red may just fit the bill:

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White Christmas Sunday: 1991 Audi 200 20V Avant

Last week’s high-mile but pristine 200 20V Quattro Avant got a lot of attention, and deservedly so. It is a fantastic looking driver despite the high miles and was obviously well cared for. Today we have a car with significantly less miles but not as pristine as the Bamboo Metallic example. Will it be the car that makes your Christmas white though?

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1991 Audi 200 20V Quattro Avant on eBay

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White Christmas Sunday: 1987 Audi 4000CS Quattro

Last week’s 1985 4000S Quattro was a death toll in the days of the affordable clean 1980s Audis. There was a point in the not-too-distant past where you could buy clean examples of Coupe GTs or 4000 Quattros for under $3,000. But those days, like most of the decent Type 85s, are long gone and if you want to play in the early Audi market it’s going to cost you. While we’ve seen really clean 4000s and GTs push up towards and over $10,000 in the past few months, the trend is pulling up even the less-pristine examples. Such is the case with today’s all-white 1987 4000CS Quattro; a car with high miles but some potential for the right buyer. Will it be a White Christmas for you in this 80’s snow icon?

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1991 Audi 200 20V Quattro Avant

The Audi Type 44, while no doubt a smart looking aerodynamic sedan, was rather a tame thing – especially in U.S. guise. With about 160 horsepower and well over 3,000 lbs to push around, they were great on the highway but lacked serious motivation. That was until the 1991 introduction of the new turbocharged version of the double overhead cam 20 valve version of the venerable inline-5 was coupled with some flares, some crazy floating rotor brakes and some of the best BBS wheels to be fit to an Audi. Available as a wagon and riding alongside the newly launched V8 quattro with the first automatic all-wheel drive, Audi had two trump cards over their European competitors and were set to take off – yet, they were nearly pulled from the market by parent Volkswagen around the same time due to extraordinarily slow sales in the wake of the unintended acceleration debacle. Coupled with fictitious claims about their reliability spread by many who never owned them, most of the enthusiast community stayed away from the fast Audis; but the few who bought them sure loved them. In the case of the 200 20V Avant, less than 200 were sold in the United States – and those that were sold here were loved and used well. Such is the case with today’s 200 20V – mileage that would scare off all but the diehard Audi fans but an overall condition any enthusiast would appreciate. Take a look at this rare-to-see Bamboo Metallic Avant:

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1983 Audi Coupe GT

If yesterday’s low mile 1985 Coupe GT got you excited about the classic Audis, but you prefer the early design a bit more and are short on cash, we’re here for you. The early Coupe GTs have are remarkably different looking for the same overall design; much closer to the original Quattro, they featured the more upright quad-headlight grill, but most notably the U.S. spec “diving board” bumpers. There were other upgrades to later cars that were missing on the early cars – things that probably don’t matter to most individuals, like the larger 4×108 bolt pattern and brakes on the mid-1984 up cars. Sound like I’m being pedantic? Well, for some folks it matters, because it’s much easier to source Volkswagen wheel upgrades for the early 4x100mm cars, as well as some simple brake upgrades – such as running Volkswagen 16V brakes. Overall driving experience is about the same between the early and late cars, so perhaps if you like the design of the original this car will be for you:

Year: 1983
Model: Coupe GT
Engine: 2.2 liter inline-5
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 99,877 mi
Price: No Reserve Auction

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This 1983 Audi Coupe GT is a good running and driving example with only 99K miles, but it could use a bit of cosmetic work.

The paint is dull and the clear coat is beginning to peel in areas. There are also several sap stains and the left rear quarter panel has a dent. (see photo) The only rust is three small bubbles below the left rear side window and look like an easy repair, but the whole car will need a repaint.

Inside, the seats all look good, but the drivers seat has wear from entry and exit. The dash top has several small heat cracks and the sunroof appears to have been sealed with silicone. (crank works, and it would probably open if freed up) All controls appear to work, with the exception of the tachometer. (even the AC is cold) Stereo is a period Blaupunkt pull out, but needs the code to work. The OXS light is also glowing, but the car passed smog fine.

Mechanically it runs and drives well. Engine purrs nicely, the cluch feels good, and even the brakes are strong. Tires are about 50% worn.

A rare and now collectible car that can be driven while you make necessary repairs.

No Reserve!

Well, while it looks good in the photos, this car may be a “50-50” – that’s that it looks good at 50 feet, or 50 m.p.h. going by. There are some exterior needs and interior needs to the car; the paint has some damage and there is a sizable dent forward of the rear driver’s wheel – there are a few curves in the profile of the panel and it may be difficult to get that popped out. The interior similarly needs some attention to the seats and dash, and apparently some clever (or, not particularly clever) individual sealed the sunroof with silicone. Interestingly, the car wears 1986-1987 Audi 4000 front wheel drive center caps; they’re unique to the 4x100mm cars even though they look the same as the 4x108mm cars. However, I don’t think any of these items can’t be overcome. You can pretty easily source a dash out of a later car, the dent can be repaired, and there are seat options galore from not only Audi but also Volkswagen models. The key is the price; at no reserve on the auction, the car stands currently below $1,500 with about 2 days remaining. If the price can stay below $2,500, I’d consider it pretty well bought – finding these early GTs in good condition can be pretty hard, and while it needs work it looks like a pretty solid base. Drop another $1,500 to $2,000 correcting the faults and you’d have yourself a quite nice runner that is very unique!

-Carter

4WD Week: 1985 Audi 4000S Quattro

You know, it’s funny; we can seem to go months without seeing a clean 4000 Quattro, and then suddenly there is a wave of 5 or 6 in a row. Without a doubt, last week’s time capsule 4000 Quattro was the nicest of the bunch, but the asking price was enough to scare many folks away. That car was certainly also a rare color combination, and while today’s Alpine White 1985 4000S Quattro gives that 1987 a run for it’s money in overall condition, it’s not nearly as rare a color combination. Despite that, it’s much more appealing to me for one important reason; I bought the near-twin of this car as my first car back in 1996. It’s hard in some ways for me to believe, but this is about as identical to my first car as you can come nearly two decades later. Mine was also Alpine White over brown cloth with nearly the same mileage as this car when I originally purchased it. For me, then, even though we saw arguably a better condition “Time Capsule” 4000 with lower miles only a few days ago, this is the car that brings me back.

Year: 1985
Model: 4000S Quattro
Engine: 2.2 liter inline-5
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 112,000 mi
Price: No Reserve Auction

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1985 audi 4000S Quattro on eBay

You are looking at (and possibly bidding on) an absolute time capsule. I will try to give an exhaustive description of the car to encompass all that I would want to know if I were perhaps considering the purchase of a car sight unseen. Here goes: I own an operate a premier German repair shop in Denver. Look us up on the internet–we are Paddock Imports. We predominantly work on German cars, with a special interest in BMW, Porsche, and Audi. This Quattro has been under our care since 2007, when the second owner bought it. Roger was a meticulous owner, and attended to everything we ever recommended on this car. He brought this car to us twice yearly and let us know that it was an “open credit card” situation. As such, we took meticulous care of his beloved Quattro. The mileage on this car is low because Roger also owns a Porsche, an E39 BMW M5, and a Ford F250. This Quattro was a little hobby car for him, and as such, it got driven sparingly. Eight months ago, Roger told me he was selling the car to make room for a collector Saab he bought. After I got over the shock of him buying a Swedish car (better him than me) I jumped on the opportunity to buy this Audi for my son. Caleb turned 16 last year and I had been looking for a reliable car for him to drive to school and hockey. I therefore bought the car and went through every single nook and cranny to make it mechanically perfect. Heres the list of what we did to it 8 months ago: timing belt, spark plugs, distributor cap, distributor rotor, drive belt, timing belt roller, water pump, water pump seal, brake master cylinder, brake proportioning valve, expansion tank, expansion tank cap, camshaft seal, drive belt, coolant antifreeze, new door handles, all new fluids, and new battery. Parts alone (I did the labor myself) totaled almost $2000. Suffice it to say, the mechanical condition of the car is virtually flawless. I would get in this car and drive it to Connecticut tomorrow. The only reason we are selling it is that Caleb has to drive himself and two of his teammates from school to hockey, and quite honestly, the car isn’t big enough for these boys and their gear…not even close. We therefore bought Caleb a BMW 528 wagon. So the Audi goes to the next steward. Here are some bullet notes:

Mechanical: Absolutely flawless–it doesn’t leak a drop of anything. not a single spec. starts in the bitter cold and runs flawlessly.

Glass: perfect–not a scratch or chip in any of the original Audi glass.

Clutch: plenty of life left in it–engages low and has great feel.

Body: not a single spec of rust anywhere on this car. It has been a Colorado car it’s whole life and we do not use salt here–hence no corrosion. The paint has tiny chips here and there commensurate with its age, but you have to look hard to find them. I drive a brand new BMW M5 and this car honestly gets more thumbs up.

Interior: Indistinguishable from new!! The dash is perfect with no warping or cracks, the old school felt seats are perfect with no tears, the seats are firm and supportive, the door cards look new, the headliner is perfect, and the original floor mats still look amazing!! Interior is by far and away the most amazing part of the car—a true time capsule.

Tires: 85% and balanced perfectly…I know because I did it myself.

Electrical: absolutely everything works–even the sunroof. the passenger front window is going up and down slowly, but I will attend to that before the auction closes.

Heat: blows very warm and strong

Radio: my son had me install an Alpine deck with Pandora and iPod hookups. I also installed Fosgate speakers for him. Sounds really nice.

I am sure I forgot many things, so if you have questions, please feel free to call me on my cell phone. Doug Paddock at 303-807-1863.

Bottom line, you are bidding on a super low mileage, pedigreed Audi, that looks and runs perfectly. It will give some lucky buyer years of faithful service. I am positive that I will never get all they money out of it that I put into it, but you know the old saying: One man’s dream…another man’s bargain. My family now officially has 4 cars and a 3 car garage, so the Audi is now at my shop. I am therefore selling the car at NO RESERVE. That’s right. High bid takes her home. I will be happy to help with shipping arrangements.

Over my ownership, my appreciation for the stout 4000 Quattro grew and I’m not alone in that. I paid around $2,500 for mine in about identical condition to this car 17 years ago, and sold it with around 140 on the clock and a bunch of improvements 10 years ago for…you guessed it, $2,500. Since then clean 4000s have started up the appreciation chain, cresting $5,000 just a few years ago, and now serious buyers are talking about $10,000 to get into a clean one. That comes as a bit of a surprise to the enthusiast community that has followed them all along, but like so many cars we feature here on GCFSB it’s a simple matter of math; you can’t find a clean example and return it to the condition of a car like this for $10,000. Does that make the car worth $10,000 plus? Well, for the right person, it just may. It shouldn’t come as much of a surprise, either – just look towards the E30 market and even the quickly appreciating 944 market to see where these cars that were once throwaway second-hands are going. If you’re interested, don’t wait too long; we’re not quite to the buy a shot one to restore point on the 4000 Quattro, but when clean prices start to head towards $15,000 start expecting it. There’s the secondary issue of what else you can buy for that money, but like many other cars – the A1 Golf, the E30 BMW, and many others, that argument doesn’t hold because if you want the platform, you don’t really want anything else. Want a 4000 Quattro? This is the car to buy, folks.

-Carter

1980 Audi 5000 Diesel

If this morning’s Jetta TDi was a bit too new for you and you’d really like an alternative to the run-of-the-mill older Mercedes-Benz diesel crowd, we may just have the answer for you in today’s 1980 5000 Diesel. Audi was still quite a fledgling in the United States in 1980 and the reputation of the early 100s – while comfortable cruisers – didn’t really help the company much. In the days before Quattro then there were few Audis to be found on these shores, but they’re smart looking cars, and in the case of the second generation 100/200/5000, quite well built. Still, it’s very rare to see them out and about today, and even more rare in the condition of today’s diesel:

Year: 1980
Model: 5000 Diesel
Engine: 2.0 liter inline-5
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 118,609 mi
Price: $9,995 Buy It Now

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Diesel lover special, 1980 Audi 5000 Diesel !!!!!!!!!!

Belonged to German couple in Oregon, New belts, New Brembo brakes, fluids, filters……………………………look at the pictures, unbelievable condition. ZERO rust. Once in a life time. Starts, Runs, Drive EXCELLENT.
5 Cylinder naturally aspirated diesel, 5 speed manual transmission, interior like brand new. amazing car.
Can come with 20 Day Temporary tag (except for Massachusetts residents), and New Hampshire state inspected if needed!

Title is clean and on hand.

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It’s close to unbelievable that this car still exists in this condition in New England, but here it is. The paint seems a bit faded on the hood and the wheels aren’t the original silver color, but overall this car shows very well. The interior in particular looks amazingly clean and late 70s-chiq. I’m also pretty amazed by the condition of the engine bay, something that’s not generally known to be so clean on diesels. Were I to snap this up, about the only changes I’d undertake would be perhaps to make it a bit more “Euro” with some 200 5T pieces like bumpers, headlights, and perhaps a 5-bolt conversion to run some R8s. Otherwise I really think this car is just about perfect. The price may seem high for an older 5000, but as we often say you couldn’t buy a bad one and make it this nice for this amount of money. If you really want to stand a bit out from the crowd, here’s your ride!

-Carter

1986 Audi 4000CS Quattro

Low mileage survivors, no matter what marque, seem to always present a conundrum. Unless you’re extraordinarily lucky, you won’t find a cheap mint condition car, because there always seem to be hawks that swoop in for the kill before you get there. It’s become an entire industry; finding low mileage survivors, doing a light overhaul, and flipping them at incredible prices. Such is the case with today’s 4000 Quattro – without a doubt, the best condition non-restored 4000 Quattro I have seen in all of my days as an Audi fan. Yet, as we see with mint condition E30s and Porsches, the asking price is quite high and the fan boards are alive with chatter about how crazy the seller is for asking such a price. The question, at least in my mind, has nothing to do with the seller’s mental state – it’s a simple matter of math. But before we get there, let’s take a look at this time capsule:

Year: 1986
Model: 4000CS Quattro
Engine: 2.2 liter inline-5
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 78,000 mi
Price: $9,800

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Audi 4000CS Quattro on Audifans.com

Well, time to put this beauty up for sale. 78k original miles. No misprint. Clean title/carfax. Car was parked and covered in 1998. Then drove around the block every now and then for 5 years. At some point the engine failed. Why, no one knows. This summer the engine was replaced with another very low mileage factory engine. Compression 175 across the board. Lots of other parts were replaced to ensure this car will last a very long time.. Fuel system was gone through, filter, pump, injectors, injector orings, seats, lower seats, fuel distributor, new spark plugs, seals front and rear mains, valve cover gasket, gas tank replaced, battery, and more. Car was professionally handled at local European shop with many years combined experience. It took them months to go through everything. But well worth the wait. Car looks great, drives even better. Rust free. Never seen salt. Or deicer. Being able to drive many 4k quattros in the past, All to be said is they all drive like crap. This one drives like its brand new. Car is very tight. Great power, gets up and goes. New cat back exhaust too. Sounds great, able to retain factory tips. Paint is factory black metallic, dont see that often. Black leather heated seats are mint, as well as door cards, carpet, mats, not a stitch out of place. Seats get warm within 60 seconds. Everything works on the car. Everything. All windows, doors, interior/exterior lights. All gauges, lights on gauges, console, little lights on every window switch. Cruise, A/C blows cold, R12. Aftermarket Alpine pull out C/D player, was amazing back in 92 or so. Stereo sounds good. Power antennae is smooth. No leaks of course. Tires are like new Dunlaps. Bonus real BBS 14×7 ordered from the dealer in mint condition. Have original multi spoke rims in excellent condition as well, with all center caps. This is a rare chance to own a fully documented one owner 4000 Quattro that seems to have been in a time capsule. Original title from 1992. Dont even consult the wife, unless shes a Quattro fan. Five zero 9, nine five four, 88nine five.

First off, let’s acknowledge that it’s a rare color combination on 4000s at all; indeed, black leather was a rarely selected option. Second, let’s agree that the condition of the car is pretty spectacular. There are factory option BBS RA wheels that are color-coded, and everything about the car screams “Hey, it’s 1990 again and I’m still pretty factory fresh”. Now, the price – $9,800. Now, that price point puts you into line with a lot of other cars, nevermind a lot of other Audis. To name a few, for $10,000 you could have a 944 Turbo, any number of E36 M3s, and a few hot Benzs. Indeed, you could also have your choice of many S4s, S6s, and even some budget S8s. But that’s not the point, because if you’re looking seriously at this car, you want a 4000 Quattro. So what is competition? You could get a Ur-Quattro that needs sorting, for example – but this car needs no sorting.

So here’s the math part: take a decently rare already 4000 Quattro. Now, restore it to the level of this car; recover the seats in original marterials, refresh all of the plastics, buy the NLA parts that are in fantastic shape, find the optional wheels, go through the car mechanically. Then, paint it, correctly. Now, add up those bills, and tell me where you think you are – because by my math, there is no way this car could be replicated for the $9,800 asking price. Even if it could, you’ve got a restored 4000 Quattro that you spent a mint on, tons of time, and it’s got what – 200,000 miles? Sure, if you’re building a modified car it doesn’t matter, but if you want a factory fresh unit you’d be silly to attempt to replicate this car.

Is it worth $9,800? Well, I happen to know a few people that have tossed the $10K plus figure around when searching for the perfect 4000 Quattro. Yes, I find it strange the original motor failed, but I don’t really see how that impacts value; it’s been corrected, the car appears pretty much spotless, and it may be one of the only ones left in this original condition. To me, that warrants the price for the right buyer, though admittedly the pool is pretty small. In the meantime, enjoy the view of one of the best preserved 4000s I think I’ve ever seen.

-Carter

1987 Audi 4000CS Quattro

The Audi 4000 Quattro is one of those cult cars that was too good for its own good. Why? Well, they were so good in the snow and ice that they were used – hard – and put away wet. That means today that there are precious few of the 4 year run of these cars still hanging around. Especially rare are the early 1984 models, but later models that were saved are often either red or white. Occasionally you get the grey-scale models of color in with a Graphite Metallic or Zermatt Silver, but it’s pretty infrequent that you see the three blues; Copenhagen Blue, Oceanic Blue Metallic, and Sapphire Blue Metallic. Today’s last of the run 1987 4000 arrives in that last shade, with a host of upgrades:

Year: 1987
Model: 4000CS Quattro
Engine: 2.2 liter inline-5
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 224,000 mi
Price: $2,750

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1987 Audi 4000CS Quattro on Craigslist

Sadly the time has finally come for me to part with my beloved 1987 Audi 4000cs quattro. This is the 5th one of these that I have owned over the years. I shipped it from Seattle 10 years ago with around 70k miles on it, now it has 224k and still going strong. Some details about the car:

kinda rare sapphire blue color with very nice gray cloth interior
very well maintained, huge stack of receipts
AC works great
has trip computer
factory wheels with snow tires

many upgrades including:
Stebro stainless cat-back exhaust (great sound and will not rust)
H&R lowering springs and Boge turbogas struts
drilled and slotted rotors, braided stainless lines, Ate super blue fluid, new rear calipers
Borbet type C 15″ wheels with great Toyo tires
E code headlights with relays

known issues:
some rust starting around the edges, solid underneath though
outer sunroof panel needs replaced (have it)
minor oil leak, as yet unknown origin
needs coolant flush (have everything to do it)
cable that switches vents to defrost not working (simple mech fix)
rear windows intermittent (likely broken wires at door jamb)
intermittent rattle in exhaust (probably loose cat internals – it has a lifetime warranty though 😉 or you can just remove the loose parts… )
minor dent in left front fender where some jack@ss “rubbed” it with his giant suv in a parking lot
crack in right headlight – sealed up and been like that for over 9 years

Here’s the big plus – this car comes with my 15 year collection of spare parts. I stripped several 4000 and coupe GT cars over the years, and kept everything. There are: doors, hoods, trunk lids, bumper covers, engine, trans, rear diff, driveshaft, entire suspension, many sets of headlights and instrument clusters, grilles and small ext trim, rear windows, and many many boxes of small parts. At least 3 pickup truck loads full. You could easily keep this car running for another 10 years with this stuff.

For the car and all the parts I am asking $2750 or bo. Price is flexible to a point, but the parts are probably worth what I’m asking. Hopefully this will go to someone who will love it as much as I have.

It’s obvious that the seller is an enthusiast, and the list of enhancements to this car are pretty stellar. The wheels are a perfect upgrade, and as a former 4000CS Quattro owner with Stebro exhaust, the sound that produces is so enjoyable. The Euro lights are a necessary upgrade if you’d like to drive at night, and the seller states the car comes with enough spares – 3 trucks worth – to keep you busy for a long time. Last week’s 1987 4000CS Quattro I wrote up sold fairly quickly for most of it’s asking price at $3,250. In comparison to that car, the general exterior condition isn’t as good – specifically, the rust creeping through some panels would need to be addressed fairly quickly to avoid further problems. Despite that, I think this 4000 is fairly close to the mark for what it is; a well modified, older car that you can have some fun tinkering with.

-Carter