1994 Porsche 911 Turbo S “Flachbau” For Sale on eBay

Porsches of this era are some of my favorites, and I thought I knew of most of the special models. Like the 3.6 Turbo S of the era. But this interesting slant isn’t one that I was familiar with. It’s not the usual slant-nose with pop-up lights, but more like a 928/968 style that is exposed and raises up when lit. Frankly it looks a bit aftermarket, but it was actually a rare factory option referred to as Flachbau. Apparently there were less than 100 made for the entire world, and only about 40 came to the U.S.

Check out this very rare , offered by Manhattan Motor Cars

Porsche 911 Turbo S Flachbau For Sale

quote from seller’s auction:

One of a very limited series of the last hand built 911 Porsches (76 total worldwide production), it is only befitting that this rarely seen model is here in New York City.

The auction is a little thin on information, but as the $150,000 opening bid suggests, only serious inquires need apply. With only 17k miles, this car is looking to be in fantastic shape and should fit into a collection very nicely.

Read up on this very interesting model at flachbau.com

dc

Front Engined, 2-door Porsches

Now that the unthinkable has happened and both four door sedan and SUV Porsche models exist, where do the older, front engined Porsches stand in the eyes of collectors these days?  Here’s two clean examples of two vastly different Porsches from the same era.

1987 Porsche 924 S

The 1987 Porsche 924 S represents the zenith of 924 development, as 1988 was the last year for the sports car originally designed to be Volkswagen’s flagship.  The 924 S does away with that one important piece that had purists refusing to consider it as a real Porsche: the engine.  VW stopped supplying Porsche engines for the 924 in 1984, and thus the 924 S with it’s detuned 944 engine was introduced.  This engine is good for 160 horsepower and is sure to be a great handler, as these front engined/rear drive four cylinders were renowned for their road manners.

The seller states:

PROS: A/C, Power steering, Power windows, Four-wheel disc brakes, Manual transmission, Alloy wheels, CD/MP3 Premium sound system, Leather seats, Tilt/removable sunroof, New Battery/New wipers, and Pirelli tires.  All the manuals, service records, and a full color dealer brochure on the model 924 are included.

CONS: There are two blemishes in paint: front right fender and rear left quarter panel, The plastic gear for sunroof needs replacement (20.00 part) still works though, Minor cracks in dash which are covered by premium dash cover, and the tires are in less than perfect condition.  Other than that car is showroom quality.

While Boxsters can be had all day for well under $20,000, at $6,500, this 924 S is a tasty, low cost means of entry in what could be one of Stuttgart’s most underrated models.  The fact that it is well documented, has a manual transmission and is a desirable color adds to the want factor.

1994 Porsche 928 GTS

The 928 GTS, much like the 924 S highlighted above, represents the end of the line for 928 production.  The GTS models were also rather rare, with only 645 produced in 1994, according to the 928 Registry.  This particular one presents well in white with the more common automatic transmission.

Level of equipment as detailed by the seller:

Power sunroof, full power seats left & right, AM/FM Radio w/ Cassette, 6 Disc CD Changer, Supple Leather, 10 Speaker HiFi Sound Package, Rear A/C.  Just passed 100 point inspection.

While close to $40,000 may seem high for an obscure, used Porsche, one should remember that these cars new cost around $80,000 before options and now, for less than half of that, you can own a clean mileage grand tourer for pre owned Boxter money.  It also pays to get the nicest 928 you can buy, as these neither cheap nor easy to repair.

-Paul

Charlie Sheen’s old 928 GTS for sale

As you’ve probably noticed by now, we’re making changes around here! Aaron is another one of our new authors. Please say hi in the comments section!

The Porsche 928 is a feat of engineering genius and one of the best touring cars ever created.  The 1994 GTS boasts a 5.4 liter 32 valve power plant that produces a robust 345 horsepower.  The later 928’s in particular have aged particularly well, both in styling and value as prices have proven to be recession proof.  The combination of limited production and overall vehicle quality has created quite a demand for these cars.  The below car posted in the Pelican Parts classifieds is an excellent example with an added bit of panache.

1994 928 GTS Coupe 

A rare loaded and meticulously cared for 1994 928 GTS is for sale from a collection as more space is needed. It was formerly the actor Charlie Sheen’s who spared no expense.  It has ALL updated services and brand new Porsche carpet and factory leather ‘ just because’ the owner could.  Driven only 3k miles per year.

Along with the low miles and impeccable condition this car comes with meticulous records from the prior owners, a must for any 928.  A car in this condition should fetch the asking price of $36.5k.  Do you think Mr. Sheen’s ownership adds any value to this 928?  While that may debatable it looks like Chaz took better care of this GTS than his wives.  Just think of the stories the lucky owner will have to share at their next PCA event.  

Porsche 928 Wikipedia

~Aaron

1967 Porsche 911S: Guest Post from Dallas

Note: Dallas is a fan of our site and wanted to contribute on occasion. Here is his first guest post. Please say hi in the comments! -dc

This one is described as a ““. For people that know even a little about vintage Porsches, this is like describing a vintage watch as a “Rolex Submariner 5513 5517” – it’s sort of like nonsense. Just as there are “Submariner 5513s” (cool vintage Rolex watches) and “Submariner 5517s” (very cool incredibly valuable only-issued-to-the-Royal-Navy vintage Rolex watches), there is the “1967 Porsche 911 Coupe” (cool vintage car) and “1967 Porsche 911S” (very cool quite rare vintage car). Let me elaborate…

By 1967, Porsche was into the third model year of its seminal 901/911 series of rear-engined sports cars. For model year 1967 the factory introduced the “S” model as the range-topping version, featuring a hotted-up engine boasting 160bhp – 30 more than the base Coupe and Targa. The factory produced just 1,823 “S” coupes and 483 “S” Targas that year. Despite the power boost, some considered that the S models made inferior street drivers as the increased power was made partly at the expense of low-end torque. However, nowadays, S cars are highly sought after, and an original S can bring serious money. Which brings us to the car on auction…

First off, the car looks fantastic. I’d have left off the racing numbers as a matter of taste, but I think the white stripes and “Porsche” script look great against the dark green paintwork. The cosmetics of this car just look super, with nice Fuchs wheels (introduced on the ’67 S) presenting the classic, iconic short-wheelbase 911 look.

Where things get a bit chancy with this example is in the description, and the question of whether the car is a real “S”. With collector Porsches, much of the price premium is based on originality – original engine and equipment in particular, and whether the car was originally built as the variant it is billed as, or converted later as a “clone”. Porsche will even issue, for a fee, a “Certificate of Authenticity” that confirms the original trim level, equipment, and paint colour of a vintage 911. The seller states:

“this car was born as a straight 911 homologated to an “S” back in the 70’s.”

When I queried the seller as to what this actually means (I asked point-blank “does the CoA issued by Porsche list it as an “S”?), the reply was rather unclear. The seller stated in an email that an S engine was installed in 1984 but the auction description states that the “homologation” occurred in the ’70s. It was apparently “born a 911” (i.e. not an “S”) so I would place a caveat on the description accordingly. The fact that an incorrect VIN was quoted in the auction (and not yet corrected) doesn’t help the comfort level. Once the correct VIN is posted, all questions will be answered… a real factory 1967 “S” has an “S” suffix to the VIN.

A hallmark of this seller’s auctions appears to be extensive quotation of “factory history” information on the marque, but it’s unclear how this relates to the car in question. In particular, the seller quotes extensively regarding the special equipment supplied with the “S”, but doesn’t actually confirm that the car for sale (“born a 911 [non-S]”, remember) comes with the special parts.

I give the seller kudos for listing a telephone number for inquiries, and I hope that a prospective buyer will avail himself of the opportunity of speaking to the seller and clarifying these issues. While a minty real “S” might now bring ~$40K+ (notwithstanding the dreamers asking $100K or more), this car should be considered accordingly. I think an enthusiast would do well to acquire a totally-sorted turn-key (and beautiful) ’67 911 Coupe with non-matching engine like this one for ~$20-25K.

**Note that this car is listed for sale at the seller’s website www.myclassiccargarage.com for $42,500.

– Dallas

Custom 1972 Porsche 911T/E/S/RS/SC/ETC.?

This Porsche falls into a similar category as the last Porsche that made it here, uber clean, somewhat modded, and well documented.

The listing provides good information, (some a bit over the top description),  a little history, and plenty of photos. Because of the modifications, this 911 can’t quite figure out whether it is a E, T, S,  RS, or SC, the VIN shows it started life as a US model E series 911T. An easy identifying feature on this car is the ölklappe, oil filler flap, mounted behind the passenger door on the rear fender. This feature only appeared for this one year after too many Porsche drivers were finding their service attendants filling the oil tank with gasoline.

This car was updated in 1989 with a 3.0 180 horsepower SC engine. Presumably the other mods and restoration work like the repaint occurred at the same time.

The car comes with a set of deep lipped Fuchs 6Jx15 alloy rims and European H4 headlights.  It also has a nice combination or original and custom interior bits.

The seller is a bit shady on the actual mileage, only listing that it has covered 5,300 miles since the modifications. Someone who is good enough to write such an elaborate description, really should know better and should have included the actual chassis mileage in the space eBay provides.

The seller does have a binder full of receipts documenting the car’s service history, which is always a nice bonus.

If one was looking for an original 1972 911T, this is not the car, but if you were looking for a vintage 911 that is partially original with a well cared for history and tasteful restoration and modification, this could be the one.

It is listed on a British site for £21,950  or about $35,400.

~Evan

1989 Porsche 911 Turbo Convertible 5 speed

I like to find ads for cars where the owner claims the car is the best of its kind around.  Lots of times that isn’t true, sometimes it causes another similar car to come out of the woodwork to prove the owner wrong. In this case we have a 1989 Porsche 911 Turbo Convertible with a 5 speed, Number 423 of 600 produced. The owner’s says “in this condition and color combination, this one is the best you will and can find.”  What do you think? The owner must think so judging from the high start price.
The car has some nice upgrades that were done at the time of the initial order at Brumos Jacksonville, 3.3 liter, 330 HP, twin plug engine, Turbo S exhaust:

C02 – Catalytic Convertor
018 – Special order Steering wheel
158 – Cassette radio Blaupunkt Reno
220 – 40% limited slip differential
243 – Short gear shift lever
348 – Fuchs wheels painted in white
494 – additional Blaupunkt amplifier

You have to be a collector to want to pay $60,000 for this 56,000 mile car. The car has points that would appeal to a collector, great all original condition, all books and tools. Still that $60,000 would go a long way towards other Porsche vehicles of this era with similar miles and performance. The car is listed for sale at 60,000 Euros on another site, which would be even more expensive.

Despite the upgrades, clean history and numbers matching aspect of this Porsche I just don’t see someone paying that much. It does look nice though.

~Evan

Fleet of Vintage Porsche racers & street cars

Newcomer to eBay, but not to the business, Club Carrera Motors has an entire fleet of Porsche vintage racers now available for you on eBay.

A couple racers, including a 56 speedster that raced from day 1, some build up race cars, and a few street cars. They look good and have plenty of pictures and info in their listings. Prices are a bit high. If you want to have an instant race team for SCCA, SVRA, HSR, etc., I bet you could get yourself a deal if you bought them all.

From high to low price wise:

1962 Porsche 356

1961 Porsche 911T
1962 Porsche 356 racer

1961 Porsche 356 racer

1960 Porsche roadster

1956 Porsche speedster

Now just pick up to take them with you to the track. Hey it is Mercedes powered so it is German.

freightliner

~Evan

Interested in a 964 RS America? There’s 6 on eBay Right Now!

While we never got the true 964 RS in this country, we did get the lovely 911 Carrera RS America. The RS America community is an exclusive one with only about 700 copies created. And they know it. I’ve determined that prices for this particular model border on crazy after browsing the classifieds on RSAmerica.net Many of these are in Turbo territory. Or even very, very nice 993 prices. Or higher!

Enough of my ranting, judge for yourself and lets see if the market is self-correcting after these auctions finish:


While this one isn’t a true factory RS America, it does include most of the options that adorned the real deal. Unfortunately it also has the tiptronic gearbox, which I believe dilutes it’s value even more. The seller seems aware of this with a buy-it-now of $24k and a recent motor rebuild. Check out this :

1993 Porsche 911 Carrera with RS America Options For Sale


At the other end of the spectrum is this . But also features a nearly $80k buy-it-now! I know I’m not a collector, but I have to imagine that most enthusiast would spend their $80k differently. It is very shiny though!

1994 Porsche 964 RSA For Sale with 15000 miles


Next is this (starting bid is $35k with no current bids). I remember when this color was all the rage. Still looks pretty good on this car honestly.

1993 Porsche 911 RS America in Teal For Sale


RS America Race Car For Sale


And two more! Both are red 93’s, one with and the other with .

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dc

2001 RUF RGT For Sale in Texas

According to the listing on eBay from Ruf Auto Centre, this is a real RGT with matching VIN code. A rare sight indeed and especially with only 2400 miles! Check out this :

quote from the listing:

The RGT is equipped with a RUF 3.6 Liter flat six producing 385HP. This dry sump engine was derived from the European version of the GT3 and was not available in the US until 2004. The RUF version of this engine has ported heads, larger valves, RUF catalytic converters, RUF mufflers and a RUF tuned ECU.

Some of the highlights on the car include:

* RUF Coil Over Suspension
* RUF Big Brake Setup
* RUF Integrated Roll Cage
* Sunroof Delete
* Rear Seat Delete
* Full Leather Interior
* GT3 Sport Seats ( OEM RUF Seats are available )
* Custom Estoril Blue Paint

Covering only 2400 miles since new, this car has been extremely well cared for by it’s previous owner.

This car has some very impressive engineering and figures to back it up. Not to mention it makes this noise:

dc

Cash for Clunkers Weekend Reading

You may remember my “spirited” post over the Cash for Clunkers program a little while back.

Well as a follow up here is the official government list of  cars sent to their deaths through the program.

Of note are the 63 BMW 6 series cars, including 13 635csi models, a 850i, a M3, and a M5.

Mercedes suffered as well, can you imagine over 100 560SEC s crushed? That is literally tons of usable parts from one of the greatest Benz engines gone. Looks like 11 Merc V12 engines also have made their last trip. No wonder parts are so expensive. A pair of AMG cars, a C36 and a C43, were sent away too and gasp a 500E.

A number of high end Audi models also are on the list and a sprinkling of Porsches.

Most surprising, though not German, on the list is the 1997 Bentley (listed as a Rolls Royce) Continental R and great oogley moogley a Buick GNX, listed under ASC. If that was a true GNX it could have been rolled and burned and still probably brought more than the CFC allowance.

Post your thoughts or interesting finds after you peruse the list.

~Evan