This 911 might make for an interesting test case. We’ve featured the 911 RS America a number of times throughout the years. It’s a car I like quite a bit. However, the consistent issue with almost any RS America is pricing relative to a standard 964 Carrera 2. While the RS America is indeed a lightened, more performance-oriented, version of the Carrera 2 the general sentiment has long been that the additional performance has not been worth the premium these cars have commanded in recent years. Like many of the rarer air-cooled 911 models, RS America prices elevated quite a bit and even if they aren’t as high as they once were they remain significant.
These days the actual full-blooded Carrera RS is available to import. On the one hand, given that the car the RS America aspires to be now is available we might see RS America prices take a turn downward. Why pay six figures for the pretender when you can get the real thing? On the other hand, prices for a Carrera RS are still significantly higher than for a RS America. Might this then keep RS America prices fairly strong? While not a true RS, they’re still marginally better than a Carrera 2 and you save quite a bit of money. I don’t know, but I’m interested to see how things play out.
But what about a RS America that tries to exist in a middle ground? That brings us to the example here. Being made available by Don Ahearn at Porsport, this RS America has been upgraded with factory RS parts to help align it more closely with the Carrera RS. It still isn’t to full RS specifications, but it’s closer. Might it have enough additional allure to support its higher price?
I’ll say straightaway that I have a couple questions about this 1993 Porsche 911 RS America. I also think it’s priced a good bit too high, though that’s a problem with a lot of RS Americas we see come up for sale. We’ll get to those questions though. First, the good stuff.
As you can probably see this one has received a full wrap in Martini Racing livery. If you were to imagine what a 964 wearing such livery at the track would look like this is probably it. And it looks great! The Martini striping really works well over the curves of the rear quarters. I’d want to remove the stickers for the dealer, but otherwise I think this conveys its intent well. This RS America also is one of the low-option examples. There were only four options available (A/C, sunroof, radio, and limited-slip differential) so none of them have lots of options, but still for a car that’s supposed to be stripped down a lot of them seem to have those things added back. This one clearly does not have the radio or sunroof. We don’t get a clear look at the option sticker and the ad leaves us blind, but I think the only option chosen was the LSD. For those in search of the sportiest RSA out there this one checks those boxes.
Gemballa has been around for quite a while. Since the early 80’s they’ve been creating designs for a wide variety of Porsches with a few Mercedes and Ferraris thrown in as well. Honestly, most of their designs I haven’t much liked. I like over the top – I mean I’m a fan of RWB – but Gemballa has always seemed over the top in a way that I found unappealing. It’s a fine line for tuners to walk and built entirely upon subjectivity; some find the right balance, some miss the mark.
Here we have one that I do like. At least for the most part. Based off the 911 RS America, this Gemballa build was to serve as a showcase car and, if we’re to believe the ad, demonstrate the more refined style they were hoping to put forth once the excesses of the ’80s were behind them. It’s still fairly over the top, but not too crazy and its likeness to the Flatnose Turbo S makes it look like something the factory may have even produced. It’s sort of a melding of the Turbo S and the 3.8 Carrera RSR, both highly sought after machines that turn the heads of just about anyone who sees one. I imagine this Gemballa will do the same.
Model: 911 RS America
Engine: 3.8 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 16,937 mi
Price: $99,500 Buy It Now
Before Singer’s amazing creations, before RWB’s wide bodies, before Magnus Walker officially made it cool to NOT be a typical Porsche guy, before TechArt, there was Uwe Gemballa.
The Gemballa’s of the 80’s were radical creations with massive body kits and interior customization. As Gemballa moved into the 90’s they evolved into a more performance focused company with more subtle streamlined body work.
I am a fan of the RS America. I feel like I need to say this because I know sometimes the car is criticized for being somewhat half-hearted. Meaning: it isn’t really that close to the Carrera RS that it serves to replace for the US market. I understand those criticisms; they are certainly valid. I like it anyway. I like the look, I especially like the whale tail on a 964, and I like that it’s a bit paired down from the standard Carrera 2. I don’t like the current prices and I know a hefty amount of the current criticism of the model stems from those prices and whether those prices make sense. That’s a different conversation.
I also like yellow cars, especially bright yellow cars. So as you can imagine I really like this Ferrari Yellow 1993 Porsche 911 RS America. It is one of only four produced in this color and given the limited colors available as standard that makes this one stand apart even more. It was spec’d with three of the four available options: radio, A/C, and sunroof. Interestingly, we’ve featured one of the other three existing cars before. Only two more for the whole set!
Model: 911 RS America
Engine: 3.6 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 30,873 mi
Price: Reserve Auction ($299,500 Buy It Now)
This 1993 Porsche FLY RS America up for auction comes from a distinguished collector’s stable and is in superb condition. This is one (1) of Four (4) Ferrari Light Yellow RS Americas produced by Porsche in M.Y.1993. This is the ACTUAL car that was on display at the 1993 New York Autoshow (this car was specifically ordered for the show).
Edit 11/25/2017 – the asking price on this example has dropped a substantial $40,000 from $159,888 to $119,888.
I have been looking for one of these for what feels like forever: a 911 RS America with limited options. I’d still love to find one that lacks the radio, having only the limited-slip differential as a selected option, but the one we see here which lacks both the sunroof and A/C is close enough. So many of these lightened 964s have retained those heavier options and while the RS America doesn’t fully approach the Carrera RS in the no frills department it’s still nice to see one that has gone the extra step.
Model: 911 RS America
Engine: 3.6 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 29,376 mi
Price: $119,888 Buy It Now
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It seems that this seller understands how long it can take to find a RSA with these limited options because the asking price is well higher than what we’ve seen for one of these in quite a while. And even those we’ve seen priced closer to $120K than $160 haven’t been selling very quickly, if at all. These are rare 964s, but they’re also readily available on the second-hand market if you’re willing to pay the steep cost. There was a time a couple years back when RSA values were rising quickly, but those days are well behind us. Prices haven’t plummeted or anything like that, but it’s clear rising values will be reserved for only the best low-mileage examples.…
It’s been a while since I’ve featured Porsche’s 911 RS America and I’m curious about their current place on the market now that the air-cooled market has slowed down a good bit. It also provides us a nice contrast with yesterday’s Carrera 2 and I think reveals some of the potential issues with that car’s price relative to similar 964s. The RS America represented the US version of the 964 Carrera RS, though in truth it’s a far cry – and far cheaper – than the RS. It features a few aesthetic details that separate it from a standard Carrera 2, most notably the fixed whale tail rather than the mechanically-raised spoiler standard on other 964s, along with the departure of some creature comforts in the name of lightness. Performance is enhanced with sport suspension borrowed from the Turbo. These have remained highly sought after on the second-hand market over the past two years with values of many of them easily exceeding six-figures. The example here, a Grand Prix White 1993 Porsche 911 RS America, comes in with an asking price just below $100K. Of the four available options this one comes equipped with sunroof and A/C.
It’s been a while since I featured a RS America so I thought it might be a decent time to take a look at one once again. As a somewhat pared down and lightened version of the standard Carrera 2, Porsche intended the RS America to fill the void in our market due to our lack of the 964 Carrera RS. It was never intended to be the full RS, but with less weight, sport suspension, and few available options they still provided a nice alternative for the 911 buyer seeking a more no-frills performance coupe. Even better, the RS America was the cheapest 911 available at the time. That fact alone means they could have made a good deal of sense at the time of their release, but on the current market the RS America tends to be a much tougher sell due to the premium attached to them. At least, for anyone other than a collector. For collectors they can make good sense. But, with the exception of the very best examples, the market for them has more or less plateaued after seeing a sharp increase more than a year ago. As some of the more rare air cooled 911s have started to again appreciate we may see the RS America do the same. The example we see here is a Black 1993 Porsche 911 RS America, located in Florida, with 64,976 miles and which came ordered with all four available options.
We’ve featured this 1993 Porsche 911 RS America a couple of times and it remains the highest mileage example we’ve come across. It has seemingly been for sale forever. Why feature it again? Because in every instance I can recall it has been listed only with a Buy It Now price, at which it failed to sell, and here it FINALLY has been listed as a reserve auction. It’s possible, in fact likely, that the reserve here is similar to its usual BIN price, but the market has made clear that this isn’t an $80K 911. With this reserve auction I hope we can get a sense of where the market values this car. There’s plenty of time remaining and for now bidding sits at $32,655. So, where will bidding end?
The below post originally appeared on our site July 21, 2015:
The Midnight Blue 1994 Porsche 911 RS America we featured in early March is back up for sale and again looks to be struggling to garner sufficient attention to meet the seller’s asking price. With one of the rarer color choices available on these cars and pretty reasonable mileage we’ll have to see if this one can finally find the right buyer.
The below post originally appeared on our site March 1, 2015:
Over the past few weeks I have featured an abundance of ultra-low-mileage collectible 911s and I know the common refrain has been that these are, to a degree, a waste. As beautiful and interesting as these wonderful low-mileage examples are, they are not being used as intended. I feel everyone’s pain on this. Here we have another collectible 911, but this one is far from a pampered garage queen. Rather, this Grand Prix White 1993 Porsche 911 RS America has covered nearly 215,000 miles over the course of its 22 years on the road. The RS America in general has shown really nice increases in value over the past year, but it’s rare to come across one with more than 100K miles let alone twice that. That makes the valuation of this car difficult, but in many cases well-maintained high-mileage 911s still seem to fetch pretty good numbers. In addition, this one is a low-option car, only having 1 of the 4 available options selected upon delivery. That 1 option was A/C.