1983 Audi Ur-Quattro with 20v Turbo Swap

Similar to the E30 M3 Evan recently posted, today we’ve got an UrQ that has massive potential but is hampered by some warning flags that leave me skeptical. Let’s begin through an optimistic lens: A 63k mile Quattro blew its head gasket thanks to a stuck thermostat in the mid-1990s, and was left to wallow in its injured state for over a decade (garage find!). The current seller, a Porsche/Audi shop, picked it up and swapped in a 115k-mile 20v turbo from an Audi 200 and G60 brakes. The extended rest in a garage left the interior pretty darn clean, but the exterior, maybe good from 20 feet away, needs plenty of work. This is where the skepticism starts.

1983 Audi Ur Quattro for sale on Audifans

My biggest problem with the ad is the amount of hyberbole (“done swaps 100 times more complicated,” “we’ll pull it out in another 10 years when it’s worth $50,000) and subjective comparison (“nicer seats than on my 70k miles 944 turbo”). Just reading it makes me feel like I’m being swindled. The poor UrQ was apparently given a tire-iron exterior treatment by the previous owner’s ex-wife, so it needs a bit of dent work and a paint job. All these issues might make one think they could get a great project Ur-Quattro for a good deal, but the seller sees things differently. He’s asking $17k, based partially on his extrapolation that it will be worth $50k in 10 years (…I don’t think so) and that 2Bennett Audimotive estimates $14,900 for a similar swap. Flags go up here for me as well as to the seller’s logic, because whereas this Audi has a stock 200 20v that once made either 162hp or 220hp, the 2Bennett conversion comes rocking 285hp. Judging by the vagueness throughout the ad, I’d say there’s a good chance it’s the 162hp 20v. Apples to oranges, my friend.

Overconfidence based on faulty estimation drags down what could be a really cool Audi. A good swap in one of my favorite cars is appetizing, but anyone willing to pay $17k for a Quattro that needs $4-5k worth of work hasn’t even glanced at the market. Anyone interested would be better off starting their own project from scratch and could have a cleaner, comparably modified car for much less than $20k.

-NR

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  1. SEVENTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS? Sorry, bro, but a beat up driver UrQ is never going to net $50K in today’s dollars. And, let’s be honest, cool factor aside you should probably use the $17K to buy an UrS4 at a fraction of the price and use the rest for maintenance.

  2. 162hp engine in a 200 is a 10v sohc engine with bosch k-jetronic! the ad says and pics show it to be the 3B engine 20v DOHC which is 220hp stock. and with 2bennet’s swap all they do is chip engine ($500 cost and they show that on the site) to get 285hp. Most cars that sit in garages for 10+ years dont get any wear on the interior… in fact i’ve never seen it wear an interior unless it has got rats in it. Also I’ve got plenty of videos and pics of a 6.5l twin turbo 928 swap and a 1989 328 ferrari engine in a 1974 ferrari dino 246, both are a lot harder than this swap that is for sure! this was a cake walk compared to those. Finding a decent shape Ur Quattro for under $10k is pretty darn hard and the engine/ecu/harness will cost $3k+ alone and the extras u have to buy and the labor is immense. and an urS4 weighs 1000 more lbs and doesnt come with box fenders and isn’t even comparable in rarity. I also have a just put a pic up on photobucket of a 1983 ur quattro with 56k on it that sold for $23,000 in ’06 on ebay but has PERFECT paint and originally engine. id let someone dent up my car anyday for a nice engine swap lol, paint cheaper/easier for sure. I dont see how $17,000 is that steep, tho $50k is for sure but hey whats wrong with wishful thinking?…

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