1985 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16

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Having looked at a Mercedes-Benz 500SLCyesterday, it got me contemplating what other homologation specials are out there carrying the Three Pointed Star. The next logical car in the company’s timeline was the 190E 2.3-16. Originally developed to go rallying, the Audi Quattro suddenly deemed the Baby Benz a bit uncompetitive, so they went racing in the Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft, or DTM series, instead. This new, fast 190 also set twelve endurance records at the Nardo testing facility in Italy, with three cars recording a combined average speed of just over 154 mph over the 50,000 km test. This example for sale in Northwest Germany has covered only 28,000 km more over its lifetime, and since it is more than 25 years old, qualifies for import to US shores.

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1986 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16

Our friends over at BlythBros. featured a piece last week regarding a road trip they took in their own Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 on a road trip to Canada. Ever the most resourceful enthusiasts, they packed their tools along with their bags and set off to visit our northern neighbors in this Cosworth legend. What struck me is how reliable and well suited it was for such a trip, considering its age. It really is a testament to how well made these cars were. If you are seeking to make some road trip memories of your own, this 190E 2.3-16 for sale in New Hampshire is worth a look. It has passed through three owners and has seen light usage, clocking only 55k miles over almost 30 years.

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Motorsport Monday: 190E – DTM or WRC Flavor?

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Homologation for motorsport is nothing new, but it’s uncommon that a vehicle will make the transition into multiple race series. Mercedes-Benz had intentions of rally competition with the 190E when it was introduced in the early 1980s, but, as they say, life is timing. With the Audi Quattro lighting up the World Rally scene, Mercedes became a bit gun shy of the proposition. Instead, they decided to go racing in the newly devised Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft (German Touring Car) race series. The first years of this series were legendary, with Mercedes going head to head with E30 BMW M3s on the track in some epic battles.

The two competition 190Es we’ll take a look at today were intended for two very different race series. The first 190E we’ll take a look at is for sale in Holland and was intended for the rally circuit.

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1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16

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The 1980s were quite a decade. Maybe I’m nostalgic because my formative years span that decade, but this was a golden era for motor racing, with Group B rallying and the series this Mercedes-Benz was devised for, Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters, or DTM. A number of great cars have appeared in this series, but none so legendary as the matchup between the BMW E30 and the Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth. While it’s generally agreed the BMW had a bit of the edge on the Mercedes, the Benz had plenty to offer in its own right. It wasn’t outright fast in street form, it had an increase in power over the stock models, a dogleg manual gearbox and tuned suspension that was uncommon for Mercedes at the time. This 190E 2.3-16 for sale in Austin, Texas Miami is a sympathetically cared for example with a just a few issues that need sorting.

Click for more details: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 on Houston’s Craigslist

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1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16

The 1980s were a time was German performance blossomed. Cars like the Audi Quattro and BMW M3 redefined the sports car formula and laid the ground work for years of racing dominance. Before AMG became Mercedes-Benz’s in house performance division, the company tried its hand at a sports saloon with an engine massaged by Cosworth. Originally designed to complete in the World Rally Championship, Mercedes decided they couldn’t match Audi and their newly introduced Quattro all-wheel drive, so they looked to the German Touring Car series instead. As a result of entering into this form of competition, Mercedes had to homologate the chassis for series production, and this car we see here for sale in Pennsylvania is a direct result of that.

1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 on eBay

Up for auction is my wonderful 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v. I purchased the car from the original owner. I have the original window sticker and service books as well as three sets of keys. If you are looking at this car then you probably know what it is already. This car is completely stock except for the retrofitting of the R134A A/C. Everything works perfectly in the car and it drives like a dream. I just had a fresh PA inspection done and the tires are brand new. Even the lap timer functions properly and is not bleeding. The interior is in immaculate shape, there is one scratch in the rear bolster drivers side but it is not through the leather. The paint is in great shape considering the car is 25 years old. This car is a collectable car but is super fun to drive. Not easy to find one that is unmolested with such low mileage. I am only selling because I need room in the garage for another toy. Please feel free to ask more questions. Thank you.

In comparison to the skyrocketing prices of the E30 M3, the 190E 2.3-16 represents a bit of a bargain when it comes to a modern classic German sports saloon. Anywhere between $7,000 to $12,000 will buy you a solid runner. Exceptional, concours quality examples might bring up to $15,000. With the lower mileage on this example, the buyer seems to be convinced he can get a little bit more. If the seller is willing to negotiate around $2,000 off, this wouldn’t be a bad buy for someone looking to live out their DTM fantasy.

Automobile Magazine did a recent comparison of the 190E 2.3-16 and its contemporary, the car we all know and love, the BMW E30 M3:

-Paul

1986 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16

Several Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16s have been featured here on our site before, so the qualities of this pre AMG sport sedan from Stuttgart need not be poured over. Low mileage examples are getting harder to find these days, however, this clean and well documented example grabbed my attention late last week on eBay.

The seller states:

The 2.3-16 was sold in the US market for model years 1985-86 and a total of only 2,229 were produced for this market. The car presented here is the 229th “16 valve” brought into the US and was produced in October of 1985. The car was shipped to the US and on January 2nd, 1986 the car was sold to its first owner, a doctor in Yuma, Arizona. This owner kept the car for 10 years and covered 53,307 miles before selling it. The second owner, a geologist from San Jose, CA, drove the car for an additional 10 years and in July of 2006 I bought the car with 153,660 miles on it. Currently the car shows 171,469 miles. Below is all the factory information on this car including the option codes. This information was taken directly from the data card and all of the equipment, as well as the numbers on the car match.

VIN: WDBDA34D7GF160993
Chassis #: 201.034-1F-160993
Motor #: 102.983-10-008984
Model Year: 1986
Paint: DB 702- Smoke Silver Metallic
Interior: Code 271- Black Leather

222- right front seat, electrically adjustable
240- outside temperature indicator
241- left front seat electrically adjustable with memory feature
410- electric sliding roof
444- tempo-mat cruise control and airbag
467- central locking system and instruments with english lettering
494- California version
506- outside rearview mirror, left and right (electrically adjusted on the right)
519- Becker radio Grand Prix electronic cassette- USA
531- automatic antenna
543- sun visor with vanity mirror, illuminated, left and right
551- anti-theft warning system
586- Behr air conditioning system and electric window lifters (front and rear doors)
593- heat insulating glass all around, heated rear window pane (single sheet safety glass), band filter
639- elimination of first aid kit and warning triangle
876- rear door contacts and lamp above rear

As you can see from this option code list this car was fully loaded directly from the factory. Only two other options were available for the 2.3-16 and that was heated front seats and rear head restraints. A third option of an automatic transmission was available …. but why would you want that! All told this car was approx. $39,000 new in 1986 making it a very expensive model.

Current condition:

This car has been very well maintained over the last 24 years. I am a Mercedes-Benz service technician by day and have done all of the work on this car myself, to factory specifications, using only genuine Mercedes-Benz spare parts. Here is a list of the work that has been done since I purchased the car.

Replaced:
All four wheels and tires (correct size wheels are unique to the 2.3-16) Tires are Bridgestone Potenza’s
Entire grill assembly
New european headlamps
Windshield
Water pump
Thermostat
Radiator cap
Alternator
Poly V-belt
Oxygen sensor
Fuel injectors
Both rear nitrogen cells (yes the hydro-pneumatic suspension works)
All four brake rotors and pads
All four brake hoses
Front wheel bearings
Front lower ball joints
Valve cover gasket
Spark plugs
Spark plug wires
Cap and rotor
Clutch slave cylinder and clutch master cylinder
Hood pad/ insulation
LCD lap timer/ stop watch
Battery
Power steering filter and fluid
Air filter
Oil changes every 5,000 miles
Wiper blades

Prior to me buying the car the previous owner did the following:

Replaced:
Rear wheel bearings
Motor mounts
Radiator
Fan switch and relay
Timing chain
Timing chain tensioner
Steering dampner
Both tie rods
Center steering link
Rear muffler
Transmission mount
AC Compressor
AC Expansion valve
AC Switches

Overall the condition of the car is quite good with the interior being a 9 out of 10 while the exterior is an 8 out of 10. This car has been in daily use for the last three years and has some small dings and dents on the exterior as well as some minor paint issues and blemishes. These include a mark on the left and right side doors and fender above the belt moulding where the previous owner put a moulding strip onto the side. When this was removed a indication of paint work to the upper door sections could be seen. In addition to this there is a small crack in the rear wing. Some panels have been repainted over the years prior to me owning it however the color match is very good. As stated above the wheels are brand new correct MB wheels in the extra 1/2 inch wide size that the 2.3-16 used.

The leather is in excellent condition with no rips or tears, rather only some slight loss of color in the high wear areas of the left drivers seat. Carpets are clean, dash isn’t cracked, door panels are excellent. Under the hood is clean with no oil leaks and unmodified. The underside of the car is very nice with no rust issues of any kind and no signs of corrosion or salt. Remember that this car has been in the dry west coast area its entire life.

While 170k miles may seem high for a high performance Benz, I wouldn’t be deterred by that factor. My family has owned a good number of Mercedes and I can say that buying on condition, not mileage, is quite important for most models, including this one. For instance, I have a good friend that just purchased a 1988 560SL with 177,000 miles. The car was a two owner vehicle that was well cared for and it shows. The SL shifts smoothly, runs strong and is cosmetically mint. Like fine watches, if you keep them in tune and adhere to regular maintenance, these older Mercedes models will treat you well.

-Paul

1986 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 AMG rebuilt to perfection

Most of the 2.3-16s I see are surprisingly dirty. It seems like they’re taken care of like any other 190E, left to get rained on and crapped on by birds, bleached by the sun with the self-leveling suspension sagging. This owner apparently took exception with that frame of mind and approached his Benz as if it were already the 40 year-old classic it will surely become. A top-to-bottom rebuild has left no stone unturned, and the results are impressive.

The seller’s description in all caps so you can read it better:

I START MY RE-BUILD BACK ON 2006 DECEMBER TILL 2008 JULY, IN A SHOP CALL BERGAN IMPORTS IN NEW JERSEY ( PALISADE PARK), THEY ONLY WORK ON GERMANY CARS ONLY. MY TOTAL COST WITH INVOICE OF PAYMENT IS ABOUT US$28000.00 AND WITH OUT INVOICE LIKE THE 17″ OEM AMG MONO BLOCK, ALARM, CENTRE CONSOLE AND MANY EXTRA PART IS ABOUT USD$8000.00 OR MORE WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BUYING PRICE OF THE VEHICLE OF USD$6500.00 WITH THE TOTAL OF ABOUT US$ 42500 OR MORE.

WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO THE ENGINE: (COST ABOUT USD$10000.00)
IF NEEDED I CAN SEND YOU A COPY OF IT , BECAUSE IS TOO LONG TO LIST EVENTHING, BUT NOT ONLY THE ENGINE, LIKE THE CLIMATE BLOWER MOTOR, TIMING CHAIN, ALL 16 VALVE , TIMING CHAIN GUIDE AND RAIL , WATER PUMP, ALL RUBBER HOSE AND ALL SEAL, AND THE AIR IS UPGRADE TO R134, AND THE TEMP SENSOR IS BEEN UPGRADE ( NORMAL TEMP IS 110c FOR A 190E AND THE NEW SENSOR ONLY RUN IN BETWEEN 85c ~95c ONLY) AND THE TRAN HAS BEEN RE-BUILD TOO, CHANGE GEAR IS VERY SMOOTH.

EXTERIOR : ( COST ABOUT USD$12000.00)
ALL THE OLD PAINT GET SAND OFF AND RE-PRIME, THE REAR QUART L+ R + CENTRE PANEL IS BRAND NEW DUE TO THE RUST ON THE L+R CONER OF THE REAR WINDOW AND THIS IS NORMAL TO A 190E, ALL OF THEM ARE LIKE THIS, BUT I DON’T LIKE TO SAND OFF THE RUST AS I KNOW IT WILL COME BACK AFTER A YEAR OR TWO, SO I JUST REPLACE IT AND THE CAR ALSO GET A NEW UNDER COATING ON ALL FENDER TO MAKE SURE IT WILL PROTECT AGAIN THE RAINING. AND THERE ARE A LIST OF NEW PART WHEN THE TIME I DID THE BODY WORK.

1/ BRAND NEW EURO HEADLIGHT WITH 8000K HID KIT, SIDE MARKER, SMOKE TAILLIGHT.
2/ BRAND NEW FRONT GRILL + BLUE LOGO + STAR ON THE GRILL
3/ FRONT & REAR BUMPER RUBBER
4/ ALL DOOR RUBBER SEAL+ KNOB ON THE DOOR ARM.
5/ REAR TRUNK SEAL
6/ FRONT WINDOW + REAR WINDOW SEAL.
7/ ALL DOOR HANDLE SEAL.
8/ A PAIR OF OEM SPORTLINE BADGE ( VERY HARD TO FIND COST US$ 250.00)
9/ ALL THE TRIM LIKE THE DOOR HANDLE, WINDOW TRIM , WIPER ARM IS PAINTED TO MAT BLACK.

ABOUT THE CHASSIS: (COST ABOUT USD$ 5700.00)
1/ ALL CONTROL ARM, TIE-ROD, SWAR BAR BRUSH ARE NEW.
2/ ALL SHOCK ARE NEW, AND THE REAR IS THE OEM SELF LEVELING SYSTEM SHOCK COST ME USD$ 1500.00 A PAIR.
3/ ABOUT THE SPRING IS OEM EURO SPEC VERSION, IT LOWER ABOUT 1.5″ BUT THE CAR DRIVER LIKE A STOCK FEEL.
4/ 17″ OEM AMG MONO BLOCK F: 7.5″ R: 8.5″.
5/ THE CENTREL & REAR MUFFLER IS BRAND NEW OEM .
6/ NEW 4 ROTOR, PADS, AND BRAKE LINE.
( THE CAR DRIVE LIKE IT IS A BRAND NEW CAR, NO FUNNY NOISE AT ALL )

INTERIOR: (COST ME ABOUT USD$8000.00)
1/ ALL 4 DOOR PANEL IS BRAND NEW OEM, NO RE-COVER AT ALL.
2/ ALL 4 HEADREST AND SEAT ARE BRAND NEW OEM LEATHER ONLY.
3/ ALPINE CD PLAYER WITH ALL NEW SPEAKER + 400 WATT AMP
4/ OEM BRAND NEW CENTRE CONSOLE.
5/ OEM AMG STEERING WHEEL.(HARD TO FIND COST USD$550.00)
6/ BRAND NEW STOP WATCH ( LOCAL ON THE CENTRE CONSOLE)
7/ BRAND NEW OEM SHIFT KNOB( VERY HARD TO FIND)
8/ CLIFFORD ALARM WITH PAGER.

Earlier in his ad he explains why he chose the 2.3-16 to rebuild as opposed to an E30 M3, and while his reasoning is thin (fewer made), it brings up some pretty interesting value judgments that enthusiasts are going to start facing as these cars continue to get older, gain popularity, and become more rare. The bidding is starting at about $12k, though from his description it seems like he’s looking for upwards of 3 or 4 times that amount. While it’s only covered 2k miles since the rebuild and is a beautiful car (especially on those monoblocks!), if he really expects to recoup his approximation of $42.5k, I think he might be a little optimistic. The seller should either wait a decade or be ready to accept about half of what he put into this attractive rebuild.

-NR

Killer deal on a clean 1986 Cossy 190E

We’re familiar enough with the Mercedes-Benz AMG 190E 2.3-16 Cosworth, a car who predated the current fancy-car trend of verbose hyphenated names by 25 years.  Overshadowed by BMW’s E30 M3 response 2 years later, it’s still a hot piece of 80s German race machinery.  What really struck me about this ad is the offer from the seller to take it to a mechanic and knock the cost of whatever mechanical repairs are needed off the price.  Essentially a guarantee that you’ll get a 2.3-16 in great running shape for the advertised $5800, a low price to start with.

1986 Mercedes-Benz AMG 190E 2.3-16 Cosworth for sale on Craigslist SF

Seller’s description:

1986 Cosworth Mercedes 2.3-16 valve. 134 k mi, one of the 1800 legally imported in1986-87, second owner, no rust or accidents, good condition, new head gasket, fuel pump, timing chain, clutch, exhaust including preconverters. Getrag 5 speed manual. A lot of assorted new parts. Runs well. Rear shocks new, but not OEM. Ambient air gauge and cruise control don’t work. $5800 or BO. We can take the car to the dealer for inspection, any cost of mechanical repairs (if needed) I will gladly subtract from asking price.

There aren’t a ton of pictures to get an idea of the overall superficial condition, but with the list of recent maintenance and mechanical guarantee, I see this as a pretty mind-blowing deal as Cosworth’s regularly go for $10-15k.  It’s not as sexy as an Evo and doesn’t stray to far from a standard 190E, but that’s ok with me with the racing pedigree and money that will be left over for upgrades should you choose to go that route.  If anyone out there is actually in the market for one of these, I’d highly recommend contacting this seller.

-NR

Are Those Old School Momo Wheels on this 2.3-16 on eBay?

Typically I prefer to post discovered examples for sale that are in better condition and/or lower miles. But as I scrolled through the pics, the wheels on this car jumped out at me. They look like either original Momo 5 star or perhaps even Fittipaldi rims. Take a look at this 1987 Mercedes 190 2.3-16 on eBayMotors:

quote from seller’s eBayMotors listing:

Please take a good look at the pictures, and then make a bid on this very special and rare car that is fun to drive and a pleasure to own. The amazing leather interior, front and rear bucket seats, 5 speed (dog leg) racing gearbox, stunning factory original ground effects kit. These cars don’t come up for sale very often so don’t miss this one.

As a young man in high school many moons ago, these were the rims to get. Can you help identify them?

dc