10K Friday: S4 v. S4

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The Audi S4 has been the subject of several of my “10K” posts, and for good reason – for around $10,000, you can have your choice of three different generations of these beastly sleepers. In the last “S4-off”, the B6 S4 was soundly beaten by the original model at least in part because it was a tiptronic automatic model. As I said in that post, however, in order to fit the “10K” boundaries most of the manual S4s are eliminated, so automatics are the choice that remains. Today I’m back with another automatic S4, so what’s the twist? This time the slush-box is facing off against the real original S4 – a 1988 Porsche 928 S4. Let’s take a look:

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Year: 2004
Model: S4
Engine: 4.2 liter V8
Transmission: 5-speed automatic
Mileage: 118,242 mi
Price: $ 10,995 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2004 Audi S4 on eBay

2004 Audi S4 4.2 Quattro
Financing Available 4.2 V8 ONE OWNER Car Fax

With a reported one owner and clean carfax, this car looks pretty nice. I love the Dolphin Grey over light grey leather as it’s both stealthy and good looking. I’m not a fan of the Enkei wheels that have replaced the originals, but with both curbing and bends common on those S4 Avus alloys it’s not hugely surprising to see them gone. They’re replaceable easily enough – you could even go for something more sporty like I displayed in my Audi wheel post this past Wednesday. The automatic wouldn’t be what most would choose when selecting this model, and a fair amount of people have also complained about the potential repair bills. For those people, stop reading now:

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Year: 1988
Model: 928 S4
Engine: 5.0 liter V8
Transmission: 4-speed automatic
Mileage: 101,000 mi
Price: $10,000 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1988 Porsche 928 S4 on eBay

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1988 Porsche 928 S4. New tires. Polished chrome wheels. Water pump, timing belt and tensioner replaced. Mobile one synthetic oil used.
Guard red w/Tan leather interior. 5.0 V8. Automatic. Full power. 101,000 miles. Always stored inside. Paint is like new. Leather is soft and supple.
Has complete, original tool set and air compressor for spare. This Porsche is extremely clean inside and out and has not been abused. I have owned this vehicle for about 6 years.
USA buyers only. $1000.00 non refundable deposit due within 72 hours. Balance due within 7 days. NO PAYPAL. Cash or certified checks only.
Vehicle not released until all checks cleared.

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The Porsche 928 is a true Grand Tourer, effortlessly able to gobble up miles in comfort. This particular example looks great in Guards Red over tan, and seems well cared for. Recent maintenance is a plus. The wheels appear chromed which was popular when the anodizing began to fail, but replacements of either the S alloys or later Design 90s aren’t hard to come by – though often not cheap. I’ve always found the 928 intriguing and this package still looks remarkably fresh considering it was designed in the 1970s.

When I thought up this comparison, I was not quite envisioning it would play out like this, but I really didn’t feel as though a manual Audi would be fair against an automatic 928; conversely I was pretty sure nearly everyone would choose a manual 928 over an automatic Audi. With repair bills on both claimed to be astronomical, that also eliminates the “it’s too expensive to own model X, so by default I choose Y” argument. So which would I choose? If it was a daily driver, no question I would choose the Audi. Day to day, it’s a better all around car. In a straight line it will keep up with or out-accelerate the 928, they’re likely even in the corners given the right tires, and you can use the Audi in white stuff. If I was looking for an occasional car to feel special in, the Porsche wins hands down, but then if it was an occasional car, I’d probably save for another year until I could afford the one I really wanted with a manual.

Which would you choose?

-Carter

Reader Ride: 2006 Audi S4 Avant For Sale in Los Angeles

A good friend and supporter of the site is giving up his very sharp Dolphin Grey on black S4 Avant. And not only is it the Avant, it also has the 6 speed manual! He has the car well priced and here is a copy of his Craigslist listing:

Update 1.30.2011: SOLD!

2006 Audi S6 Avant For Sale Silver on Black 6 Speed

2006 Audi S6 Avant For Sale Silver on Black 6 Speed

I am selling my 2006 Audi S4 6spd Avant that is Dolphin Grey with Black Leather with 60K miles. I am the 3rd owner and purchased it from a very good friend of mine.

The car is in excellent condition and is essentially stock, however it does have the following upgrades:

– B7 RS4 Black Grill
– 19×8.5 Rotiform MIA Wheels with Machined face and new Nitto 555 Tires
– Factory RNS-E Radio/Navigation with factory Blue Tooth and iPod connection

The car has a California Salvage Title on it due to having the engine replaced. This vehicle has never been involved in any kind of accident and I have a clean CarFax to prove this.

I purchased the car from a friend that was an avid Audi owner. The previous owner unfortunately damaged the original engine while driving in the rain in January of 2010. He drove through a puddle and sucked up a small amount of water which hydrolocked the engine. This was unfortunately due to him not having in place the passenger side fender liner, and that is where the air box sucks in air.

His insurance company, AAA, ended up total losing the car since a new motor could not be sourced from Audi as they no longer make complete engines. I purchased the car from him in March of 2010 and took it to a shop in Long Beach, CA that specializes in Audi vehicle repairs called Raven Motorsports. (www.ravenms.com)

The technicians at Raven had available a fresh engine from a 2005 S4 that had 45K miles on it, and sold it to me with a 6 month warranty. While the engine was replaced, they also did the following

– New Plugs
– New Coil Packs
– New Belts
– New AC Compressor
– New Oil Temperature Sensor
– New Oil Pressure Sensor

The car was completed in April with its new motor and it has been my wifes car ever since. We have now recently purchased a 2011 S4, so this car must go.

The car comes will all the receipts and maintenance records going back to new, along with all the receipts for the new engine. Also included is all the documentation from the prior owners insurance company detailing why it was a total loss.

The car has been garage kept its entire life and was just recently detailed. The inside and outside is in truly exceptional shape.

I am asking $22,500 which is an excellent price considering other B7 S4 Avants go for $28K to $30K+

I am located in Orange County and am available to show the car anytime.

I’ve had the pleasure of driving an S4 sedan with the 6 speed and it’s a complete blast! The all-wheel drive, lusty v8, and 6 speed make every run to the corner store a real pleasure. And after the corner store, you’re on your way to track day!

His asking price is $22,500 but has offered to give our readers an immediate discount at $21500. The buyer has also made the CARFAX available for interested parties.

Tell him you saw it on German Cars For Sale Blog!

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