Reader Ride Success Story – Buying a Market-Breaking Callaway GTi

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There are plenty of internet tire kickers who comment on how much a vehicle is or isn’t worth. Heck, it’s what we do every day! And while the market tends to be pretty well defined on most models, there are occasionally outliers who throw us a curve ball we just weren’t expecting. Such was the case with last month’s low mile 1983 Callaway Turbo Volkswagen GTi I wrote up. I have to admit, I was pretty excited when I originally found it (though, probably not as much as the new owner’s description below!). Why? Well, when I came across it, I had mixed feelings – with 18,000 miles on the clock and being a rare Callaway Turbo model, this GTi was drawing very strong bidding despite having a somewhat poor description and photos. While it was fascinating, it didn’t quite add up – but it was sure to draw attention. It turns out I wasn’t alone in that feeling.

I paid particularly close attention to this GTi because I thought it was heading towards being the highest selling A1 GTi I can remember seeing. As the bidding increased, we here at GCFSB exchanged excited messages such as “unreal” and “that’s crazy”. I tuned in for the end of bidding, too, just to see where it ended up – an astounding $17,754. To me it sounded like a lot of money for any A1 Volkswagen. Imagine my surprise when the next day in my inbox was a message from the new owner of the car who had tuned in to my post, explaining the purchase. I had to know more – who would pay so much for a 1983 GTi, and what was the motivation? The story was perhaps even more surprising than the purchase amount, and ranks pretty high on my list feel-good stories of 2013. I can’t say enough about how enthusiastic the car’s new owner, Lance, has been about sharing his story and time. People like Lance are true car enthusiasts and the story of his GTi purchase is a great reminder of why we all love this hobby. As I can’t do it any more justice, I’ll let Lance tell the tale:

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GCFSB: How long have you been looking for a GTi, and was the Callaway GTi your goal or a bonus?

Lance: I have a fond memory of when my father used to drive our 1st Generation GTI when I was about 12 years old and just a kid. We had a long cul de sac driveway that was approximately a quarter of a mile which seemed like a mile when I was a kid. My father who was my best friend and mentor used to flat shift from first to second on our driveway and I’d continually ask him to stop the car & do it again – over & over again… it was a blast when I was a youngster. Nevertheless I looked for 8 long years to find a good representation of a stock VW GTI that was identical to the one I remembered. My mission was to surprise him with it. Unfortunately he passed away in 2004 from a rare disease called amyloidosis, in his honor we started the Chip Miller Charitable Foundation – more at http://chipmiller.org. I discontinued my hunt for the GTI due to his passing. However my friend, Tim Scanlon, remembered that I was looking for a black GTI and shot me an email with pics of the car in 2009 (5 years from his passing)- needless to say I purchased it without hesitation.

I’m certain my father would be proud of the black GTI purchase, it’s a pretty sweet little car, it drives perfect and even has functional AC, lights & etc. Life is good was his motto and I do my best to live by it! I guess for me the memory from when I was a child is what really strikes me. The GTI was a badass little street rocket and I was lucky enough to have a cool father that wasn’t afraid to bang through the gears on our driveway!

Fast forward 4 years…

I woke up early one morning and decided to look on ebay through my cell phone without waking up my wife. I searched for “Renntech” and was checking out a few cars that popped up, nothing really grabbed my attention. Next I did a search for “Callaway” and the first thing that popped up was a 1983 Volkswagen GTI Callaway with 18,000 miles. I about fell out of my bed! I read the advertisement and was excited as can be. I actually woke my wife up at this point and told her I’m going to buy a new car! I bid on it first and quickly became the high bidder. Irony has it, I really wasn’t looking to purchase a car – I was more just looking to see some neat rides. It never hurts to dream, right?!

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GCFSB: Tell us a bit about your pre-purchase inspection – how did it go, how was it arranged, and were there any surprises?

Lance: It worked quite well asking on VWvortex.com if someone with knowledge lives close by where the vehicle is listed for sale. There were a couple of details that concerned me about the ad on ebay. 1) the images were terrible and didn’t show enough details of the vehicle being sold 2) the seller had zero (0) feedback 3) the engine bay looked older than an 18,000 mile car 4) I sent out some questions pertaining to the vehicle and never heard back for the first 48 hours 5) the ad was written oddly, meaning it was an original owner car but didn’t appear to be written by the owner. I decided the safest thing for me to do was have someone go do a pre-purchase inspection of the car. This would allow me to know if the car is what the ad states it is and potentially get some much better pictures sent my way without having to drive 5 1/2 hours each way. When roaming on VWvortex.com I decided to search for the ’83 Callaway GTI to see what people were saying and sure enough it was on the site. I decided to post a quick question to see if anyone would bite knowing if they are on that forum they will most likely know what they are looking at. Sure enough within a few minutes I had a private message from one of the members stating that they lived approximately an hour away from Millford, WV where the car is located. His name was John and I asked him what I could do in order to get him to look at the car – simple enough, he just wanted to see it himself! He said, cover my fuel cost and I’ll go. We had a deal!

Low and behold I received an answer from the owner after about 48 hours of my questions being written on ebay. Her message stated that she was having technical issues with her computer and didn’t answer any of my questions. Obviously, this scared me to death! I immediately fired another message to her on ebay and asked for her to call me and provided her with my cell number. Sure enough she called me. The owner turned out to be a super sweet older woman that explained to me she never used ebay before. She told me her computer has been giving her problems off and on. We finally got down to business where I could ask the questions I had for her. She nailed every one! She was selling the car because it was her husband’s baby and unfortunately he had recently passed away. She no longer had a need for the vehicle. She then told me that he logged all the miles driven in the vehicle along with keeping any and all paperwork regarding the car. She said it was stored inside every day of its life and it was only used for joy rides. In fact only three people ever drove the car – her husband, her son and her! Her handle for ebay was also a tad scary “junkid1” – my interpretation was “Junk Kid”. However after speaking with her… her name was June Kidd. Another relief!

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Lance: At this point I had arranged for John from VWvortex.com to go look at the vehicle. John went there in the morning prior to someone else looking at the vehicle. He told me he’ll text me as soon as he arrives. I was in a long meeting and quickly forgot about the GTI and John. However once the meeting was over about 3 hours later I realized John never texted me. So I started texting him and as I was typing he called me. He told me his cell phone didn’t work at her place, so he was calling from her phone. He told me that with being a stickler in every capacity that this car was a 9.5 out of 10. He also told me it would be easy and fun to make this car a 10 out of 10, stating it only needs some minor updates to really make it perfect. He kept telling me how blown away he was with the incredible overall condition. Needless to say I was excited and couldn’t wait to see the images he took which he assured me he’ll post later when he returned to home. John was awesome in every capacity! His images and his raving review were exactly the information I needed in order to pull the trigger. The only surprise was that the car was stronger than I initially thought per the inspection and images.

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GCFSB: Midway through bidding, it was obvious this car was going to be expensive. Were you concerned at all watching your bids get higher?

Lance: I really wanted the car. How often do you run across a low mile, original owner, all documentation & records with a Callaway Turbo stage II installed at Callaway Cars?!? After having John look the car over and send me some great photographs I knew I had to own this incredible car. I’m a total sucker for low mile, original cars that are well documented – I’m just thankful to be the next caretaker of this beautiful little rocket! When John told me this car was near perfect in every capacity I knew I wasn’t going to let this car sell to somebody else. However I knew there would be other people wanting the vehicle just as bad as I did, especially the ones that were able to see it firsthand. My only hope was that there wouldn’t be strong action for the car at the end of the auction. Well, my only hope didn’t come to fruition! There were some serious buyers on this Callaway GTI and I wasn’t about to let it get away. I’ve done this in the past and knew I’d be kicking myself if I didn’t pull the trigger.

I was on the road with my family headed to North Carolina when the bidding was ending. I decided to use esnipe to take care of my bidding on the GTI. I decided to place a ‘crazy’ high bid in on the vehicle of $25,550 to ensure I would be the high bidder unless someone was even more insane that me. You might ask – why $25,500 – simple, because to me that’s what I felt the car was worth in today’s market. Some people out there might say I’m insane, but I challenge you to find me another one like it… original owner, no rust, low miles, Callaway Stage II installed at the Callaway Cars Factory, all documentation, fuel miles logged by the owner since new and the list goes on… Needless to say I’m confident Mark I GTI’s are at their infancy in collectability. I’ll go out on a limb and claim in the next 20 years a GTI of this caliber will fetch in the six figure territory. Although that’s not the reason I purchased this car, it won’t surprise me if it happens. Just read various forums and talk to passionate VW Mark I GTI owners – passion drives the market and so does money. As the generations that really loved these GTI’s get higher paying jobs and etc. they will go back to their childhood favorite cars and they will be willing to pay whatever it takes to get them. I see this over and over again in the line of work I’m involved with today – car events; Carlisle Events. Needless to say I won the car, but it came with a steep price tag in today’s market.

I feel strongly that if you purchase a vehicle it should be one that you are truly going to enjoy, whether it be on the road or simply to look at in your garage. For me, I love the car and will certainly enjoy driving it on various occasions. I’ll also showcase the car so others have the opportunity to see this rare piece of history.

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GCFSB: Now that you have the car you’ve wanted, what are the plans for it?

Lance: Enjoy it! I’m one of “those” people that sleep better at night knowing I’ve got another car in my collection that fits well – strange, but I believe “car people” get exactly what I’m talking about… it’s simply a passion and I’m thankful I have it! Now time for the shameless plug… If you’re interested in seeing this beauty firsthand, I’d encourage you and every other German car lover to come out to enjoy the Carlisle Import & Kit Nationals held annually in May. More information can be found by visiting our website: http://CarlisleEvents.com.

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GCFSB: What else do you have in the garage, if anything?

Lance: I’m a car guy at heart, but Corvettes are typically at the top of my list. All cars that made history due to design, power, race results and so forth really get my blood flowing. With this said, I’ve got the only Callaway Twin Turbo Corvette race car that ran in the World Challenge Series. The 2005 Test and Development Callaway Corvette dubbed the Carlisle Callaway Corvette is another favorite of mine – it was in every Corvette magazine and accomplished a mid 10 second run at over 130 mph back in ’05 along with big brakes, Callaway suspension and etc. Recently a purchase from overseas called the Callaway LM is one of my latest additions, it ran in the 24 Hours of Le Mans three consecutive years and won the SCCA World Challenge S2 Class here in the USA. Another one of my favorites is the ’84 GTI that resembles the one my father used to bang gears in when I was a child (black/blue interior). My all time favorite vehicle is a ’60 Cunningham Corvette that won its class in Le Mans back in 1960 which we took back to Le Mans 50 years later for a reunion along with the original driver John Fitch, check out the Quest Documentary – there was a film written and produced by Michael Brown – http://questdocumentary.com. Another couple vehicles that I “had” to have is the ’06 Ford GT Tungsten and an ’94 Porsche Turbo last of the air cooled turbo’s of that generation. I also have a few other cars with the details I look for in a vehicles as well.

GCFSB: Thanks, Lance! It’s an incredible collection for sure. Lance was also nice enough to share a correspondence with the original builder of the car, the legendary Reeves Callaway

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Reeves: Lance, as promised, a short history of the Callaway turbo GTI.

Remember that Callaway turbo systems was the company started in the back of my house in old Lyme Connecticut around 1977.

It was a point to choose only cars that could stand a substantial increase in power and still remain reliable. This pretty much defined the small German cars: BMW Porsche Mercedes and VW

The VW rabbit series and the subsequent GTI series, had a good enthusiast following in the sport hatchback segment. They became a good candidate for some substantial horsepower increasing.

We had good success in turbo charging the BMW 3,5, 6 and 7 series. So we decided to translate some of that philosophy to the VW productline.

The idea was to sell a very complete kit so that the advanced do-it-yourselfer in his garage had everything that he needed to wind up to turbocharging the VW reliably, quickly, and with a great feeling of more power.

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Reeves: We manufactured all of the components, the exhaust manifold, the tubing, the intercooling, the exhaust system, and the fuel enrichment system, and placed them all in boxes on Friday afternoon and UPS would come and pick up the entire weeks production. We shipped them all COD direct to the owners. There were five of us working out of the house, and those were the days. Beany had just been born. Pete was on the way. the shop was in the middle of being expanded and the reputation in the marketplace was good. the money was rolling in, no accounts payable and no accounts receivable.

There were 2 hp levels: stage one I believe was about 120 hp & stage two was 175 hp. The stage two cars with front-wheel-drive and the tires of the day, were a quite amusing torque steer proposition.

Very glad that you have what appears to be a good example of the vintage. Thanks for your continued enthusiasm. I’m sure dad is proud.

Best regards,

E. Reeves Callaway
Founder

Callaway Cars Incorporated
2441 Pullman Street
Santa Ana CA 92705

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-Carter

1978 Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel L

When one talks about dream Mk.1 Volkswagens, the Rabbit Diesel L usually doesn’t come to mind. Typically folks want an early gas model or the GTi, but this diesel may just sway a few people. Period correct (and back in vogue today) respray in brown over tan interior with a cabriolet body kit, this diesel looks neat and is sure to save you lots and lots of money at the pump. If Volkswagen was still importing Rabbits to the U.S. in 1991, this is what they would have looked like:

Year: 1978
Model: Rabbit Diesel L
Engine: 1.6 liter inline-4
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 59,566 mi
Price: Reserve Auction

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1978 Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel L on eBay

I am selling my fully restored 1978 VW Rabbit Diesel. Runs and drives perfect.

The engine was replaced with rebuilt 1.6 L diesel engine and 5 speed manual transmission. New water pump, timing belt, bearings, piston

rings ( GOETZE brand), and new injectors. 59400 miles on the car, but only 500 miles on the rebuilt engine.

New battery, and heather core. No A/C.

New clutch, and clutch cable.

New (Brembo) front brakes and pads. new rear break shoes and wheel cylinder. New master brake cylinder, and emergency brake cable.

New struts (Sachs) and struts mounts on front, and new rear struts. All new wheel bearings (front and rear).

Nice 14″ aluminum wheels taken from 1990 Jetta with good used tires. Alignment and tire balance done.

Custom bumpers, grill, and double euro headlights (replacement H4 bulbs).

Car painted.

Interior looks great. New brown carpet, with original tan headliner, and clean tan leather seats. Two small cracks on dashboard (see picture).

Original radio, new door speakers. GTI console with gauges oil, temperature, and voltage.

For additional information call 330-328-4178

There is no doubt that a tremendous amount of work went into this L, and that’s pretty atypical. A careful buyer should be willing to pay a premium with all of this work done – with an engine overhaul, all the bodywork done, and a neat interior, if you want an earlier Rabbit that’s both show-worthy and an economical driver, this car suits the bill perfectly. I love the combination of the cabriolet pieces onto the 4 door Rabbit; I think it works perfectly without looking out of place. The teardrop alloys also fit perfectly, again looking correct without being out of place. As a period resto-mod piece, this car just strikes me as awesome. Reserve is still on but as of writing bidding is low; I’d expect the reserve is in the $5,000 – $7,000 range considering the amount of work that’s been put into this; at that price, it’d be well worth it.

-Carter

1988 Volkswagen Scirocco 16V

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It’s been a solid few weeks for Volkswagens at GCFSB. We’ve featured a few very nice GTis, some R32s, and a pretty slick Euro-inspired 16V converted Scirocco. Today’s example is more stock than the car we featured yesterday and remains one of the lower mile unmolested examples we’ve seen recently. At only 62,000 miles, this car is barely broken in! The 16V Scirocco is a neat period package that was fun to drive and had reasonable practicality with the hatch and fold down seats. Take a look at this white with leatherette/cloth seats:

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Year: 1988
Model: Scirocco 16V
Engine: 1.8 liter inline-4
Transmission: 5-speed
Mileage: 61,925 mi
Price: Reserve Auction

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1988 Volkswagen Scirocco 16V on eBay

1988 VW Scirocco 2 door. 16 valve 4 cylinder engine with 5 speed transmission. 61925 miles. Very good condition throughout. Air conditioning is all there, but does not work. Has factory sunroof, power steering and brakes. Has good tires on aftermarket wheels. New battery. Call owner for any other details. 813-293-6978. Ask for Jack. I’m listing for a friend. Details on the car should be directed to the owner at number shown in this section.

On Oct-21-13 at 14:56:54 PDT, seller added the following information:

CORRECTION……PLEASE NOTE….THIS CAR HAS A NON FACTORY SUNROOF. IT IS NOT ORIGINAL TO THE CAR……THANKS.

The interior on this generation of Volkswagens is always the ownership care tell-tale, and surprisingly though the exterior pictures are relatively unimpressive the interior looks great. I has a set of those seats back when I owned a Mk. 2 Golf, and they were quite comfortable and offered reasonable support in the corners. The owner is upfront that the A/C is non-fuctional but it hasn’t been removed, making repair a little bit easier. No other mechanical history is included, unfortunately. I’m not a fan of the wheels, but they’re easy enough to replace – I found a nice set of BBSs that while black would look pretty slick on this package – click the picture to bring you to the auction:

The only real downside I see with this particular example is the non-factory sunroof. I’d be pretty weary that the hole had been cut and properly sealed, and make sure there are no leaks or rust hiding. That said, taller folks would probably appreciate the additional headroom versus the factory slider unit. Otherwise, I’d guess the reserve is set around the $4,000 – $5,000 mark, and at that price point this seems like a pretty reasonable driver.

-Carter

1983 Volkswagen GTi Callaway Turbo

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As Yogi Berra once famously said, “It’s like deja-vous all over again”. What are the odds of two 1983 Volkswagen GTi Callaway Turbos coming up for sale within a week of each other 30 years later? Not good. But perhaps it’s time to play the lottery, because here we go again! If last week’s stunning $17,750 1983 GTi wasn’t the right color to peak your interest, perhaps today’s example can color you a bit more red. Today’s example is not nearly as pristine as the earlier example with the best part of ten times the miles, but it still looks like a pretty slick package overall

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Year: 1983
Model: GTi
Engine: 1.8 liter turbocharged inline-4
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 156,103 mi
Price: Reserve Auction

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1983 Volkswagen GTi Callaway Turbo on eBay

VOLKSWAGEN RABBIT GTI 1983 WITH CALLAWAY TURBO

UP FOR SALE IS MY 1983 RABBIT GTI…1.8 8 VALVE WITH 2H CLOSE RATIO 5 SPEED TRANSMISSION..MOTOR WAS COMPLETELY REBUILT ABOUT 10YRS. AGO…AT THIS TIME MOTOR MAY HAVE ONLY 3500 MILES, THE TRANSMISSION WAS REBUILT AND HAD HEAVY DUTY RING GEAR BOLTS INSTALLED BY THE PREVIOUS OWNER..(TRANSMISSION MAY HAVE 5K MILES) IF THAT…

NEW PARTS THAT WHERE PUT ON AT TIME OF ENGINE REBUILD… ARP HEAD STUDS..ARP BOLTS IN BOTTOM END..COPPER HEAD GASKET..OIL PUMP..WINDAGE TRAY..REBUILT CALLAWAY TURBO.. TECHTONICS ADJUSTABLE CAM GEAR..CYL HEAD WAS RESURFACED AND NEW VALVE SEALS WHERE PUT IN..K N AIR FILTER..SACHS STRUT INSERTS..FEBI STRUT CAPS..WITH NEUSPEED FRONT AND REAR SPRINGS, REAR STRUTS ARE KONI ADJUSTABLE ( THEY WHERE USED AND ON THE CAR WHEN I PURCHASED IT)..EUROSPORT UPPER AND LOWER STRUT BRACES..NEUSPEED REAR SWAY BAR..NEW FACTORY MOTOR MOUNTS..POLYURATHANE BUSHINGS IN FRONT CONTROL ARMS..NEW BALL JOINTS..WHEEL BEARINGS..HALF SHAFTS..CAR ALSO HAS POLYURATHANE BUSHINGS IN REAR AXLE THAT WHERE INSTALLED BY PREVIOUS OWNER..

NEW FACTORY VW DOOR PANELS..NEW FACTORY VW GRILL..MARKER LIGHTS..TAILLIGHTS..( FACTORY VOLKSWAGEN PARTS NOT JAPANESE JUNK) EUROPEAN BUMPERS FRONT AND REAR..

CUSTOM 2 1/4 EXHAUST WITH STAINLESS STEEL BORLA MUFFLER

15X7 TURBO RONAL WHEELS ( 2YRS., OLD IN MINT CONDITION)..195/50/15 TIRES..FRONTS HALF TO 3/4 TREAD..REAR NEAR NEW

USED PARTS INSTALLED INCLUED.. OLD SCHOOL FRONT SPOILER (VASTATEC)..IS THE NAME THAT’S ON THE SPOILER , I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS AN AFTERMARKET KAMI SPOILER..

CAR ALSO HAS REAR KAMI SPOILER ON TRUNK LID..KAMI HOOD SCOOP..THE FRONT SEATS ARE OUT OF A 1975 A1 SCIROCCO..REAR SEAT IS FACTORY GTI RED..THE STEERING WHEEL IS FROM A 1980 RABBIT..HAS OIL PRESSURE GAUGE, BOOST GAUGE, AUTOMETER AIR/FUEL GAUGE, FACTORY VOLT GAUGE, CLOCK, CELS GAUGE IN FACTORY SHIFTER CONSOLE..AUTOMETER SHIFT LIGHT WAS INSTALLED ON THE STEERING COLUMN..

THIS A LIST OF STUFF THAT I KNOW THE CAR COULD USE..THE ODOMETER, TACHOMETER STOPPED WORKING ABOUT 2YRS., AGO..FRONT END NEEDS ALIGNED..HEAD LINER SAGS..NO REAR WIPER..MISSING CARPET IN TRUNK..ALSO MISSING PLASTIC SPEAKER TRAYS IN TRUNK..WINDSHEILD WASHER BOTTLE AND HOSES..MISSING PLASTIC ROCKER PLATE ON PASSENGER SIDE AND MISSING PLASTIC GRILL PIECES IN THE BOTTOM OF BOTH DOOR PANELS..THERE IS ALSO NO HEATER IN THE CAR..

WHEN I BOUGHT THE CAR IT WAS IN A MINOR FENDER BENDER AND WAS HIT LIGHTLY IN THE REAR..THAT WAS ALL FIXED..THAT IS THE ONLY ACCIDENTS THAT I KNOW OF THE CAR TO BE IN..

THE CAR IS IN MY OPINION IS IN ALMOST PERFECT ORIGINAL CONDITION.. THE ONLY NEW PAINT ON THE CAR IS ON THE REAR END..THIS CAR HAS BEEN GARAGE KEPT PRIOR TO ME BUYING IT AND SINCE I HAVE BOUGHT IT IN 2002, IT’S ONLY SEEN WATER WHEN IT WAS WASHED.. THE UNDERNEATH IS IN AWESOME CONDITION..INSPECTION EXPIRES THE END OF THIS MONTH..

THE REASON FOR ME SELLING THE CAR IS I DON’T HAVE THE TIME TO SPEND DRIVING IT.. I HOPE TO FIND SOMEONE WHO WILL LOVE THE CAR AND ENJOY IT AS MUCH AS I HAVE..

PLEASE LOOK AT ALL THE PICTURES AND ASK ANY QUESTION BEFORE BIDDING, IF YOU NEED ANOTHER PICTURE OF SOMETHING TAKEN PLEASE LET ME KNOW..THE LONGEST I’VE EVER DRIVEN THE CAR WAS MAYBE 100MILES TO A SHOW AND I DIDN’T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS..

I’M SURE THERE ARE THINGS THAT I’VE FORGOTTEN DO TO NOT HAVING THE TIME TO DRIVE THE CAR MUCH THEREFORE IF IT WAS ME BUYING THE CAR AND KNOWING THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN DRIVEN MUCH IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS PERSONALLY I WOULD PUT IT ON A TRAILER OR TOW IT…WILL NOT SHIP.. NO RETURNS..CAR IS SOLD AS IS WITH NO WARRENTY..

PLEASE EMAIL ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS, THIS CAR IS IN AWESOME SHAPE..ITS NOT BEEN IN A MAGAZINE, AND CALLAWAY DID NOT INSTALL THE TURBO KIT BUT IT IS ONE OF THE CLEANEST RABBIT GTI`S I EVER SEEN, I HAVE WORKED ON THESE FOR 19 YEARS….

Holy “Caps Lock”, Batman. This car has some obvious needs compared with the other two GTis we’ve featured in the past week. There are pieces missing, the steering wheel and front seats aren’t correct, the rear spoiler isn’t original but looks clean (similar to the Mk.2 design), and it appears that the interior overall could use a good cleaning. It’s not the cleanest build I’ve seen, but overall presents pretty well and crucially the floors look to be pretty solid, so it could be a great starting point to either further modify or revert the car towards a more-stock state. One thing I’m not a huge fan of is the wheels; I’d probably try to get some of the larger Fifteen52 snowflake replicas on there, or perhaps some BBS RA wheels. Get a set of period Recaros, a GTi steering wheel and some odds and ends, and I bet this is a fun car to drive!

Here are some wheels I found on Ebay:

And some seats from a later GTi which could probably work with some modification:

Pricing is no reserve, so we’ll have to see where it ends up, but my guess is like the 1984 Barn Find GTi a few days ago it should end in the $5,000 – $7,000 range.

-Carter

1985 Volkwagen Scirocco

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The last few months has seen some crazy expensive A1 Volkswagens, so it’s refreshing to see a neat driver that is in the stratosphere. Today’s example started life as a plain-jane 8V 1.8 Scirocco in Titian Red Metallic, and probably would be higher valued if it had remained that way; but for me, I like what the owner has done with this car. Gone are the diving board bumpers and quad-sealed beams, replaced by the more desirable and slicker-looking European units. Also gone is the slightly anemic 1.8 8V, replaced by a Techtonics Tuning 2.0 16V. Round it out with a fresh set of BBSs, and this is a slick package for sure:

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Year: 1985
Model: Scirocco
Engine: 2.0 liter inline-4
Transmission: 5-speed
Mileage: 114,600 mi
Price: $5,500 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1985 Volkswagen Scirocco on eBay

1985 8v Scirocco with Techtonics 2.0 16v engine installed in mid-90s. Three-owner car. We’ve babied and cherished it since June 1990.
–Complete maintenance records since 1990
–New tires (see photos): Yokohama S-drive 195/50R-15
–BBS 15-inch wheels
–Euro bumpers and headlights
–16v body kit, with EXTRA body kit
–Techtonics exhaust
–Bilstein shocks with Neuspeed lowering springs

A few dings and scratches (see photos). Paint is in beautiful shape. Small burn on backseat from previous owner (see photo). (We are not smokers and car does NOT smell like smoke.) Cloth interior of the sunroof has some staining from inside sunroof (see photo). Everything works.

It’s still a blast to drive, and we’re sad to see her go, but need to downsize our car collection.

On Sep-25-13 at 12:36:10 PDT, seller added the following information:

Addition on 9.25, based on query from potential buyer: There is no rust. Hasn’t been driven in winter, and it’s been garaged most of its life. The clutch was replaced when we dropped in the 2.0L engine, in the mid-90s. It did not need replacing, but we figured we might as well replace it with the engine out. The transmission is original and unopened. We have not even replaced the original shift bushings, no need to.

If you like mid-80s VW products, it doesn’t get much better than a Scirocco set up like this. Titan Red Metallic might not be everyone’s favorite, but in this guise the car looks like a 7/8th scale Quattro, and that’s not a bad thing at all. Thankfully, it’s not 7/8ths the complexity or price of a 1985 Quattro, and in it’s current form it’s likely quicker in everything put the snow. With maintenance records since 1990, a solid build, desirable Euro pieces and a great motor choice, this is a great package in my opinion. Better yet, it’s affordable as a driver – $5,500 seems like a steal for all this door-wedge goodness. Buy it now and enjoy trips up the tach for years to come, and I doubt it will lose any value if properly maintained!

-Carter

1984 Volkswagen GTi

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Hot on the heels of the unverified record-setting $17,750 1983 GTi comes this 1984 model. Missing the turbo but with a sunroof, this year newer model sports the blue interior option under the white exterior. This car has undergone some subtle modifications after a prolonged period in storage and certainly looks fresh. Unlike the first car which was certainly collector status (or at least, price), this example shows some more wear but would make a potentially great driver:

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Year: 1984
Model: GTi
Engine: 1.8 liter inline-4
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 105,900 mi
Price: Reserve Auction

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1984 Volkswagen GTi on eBay

Up for sale my 1984 White and blue rabbit GTI. I bought the Car almost 3years ago after a 15 year stint in heated barn storage . Needless to say much work has been done to get running smoothly and California smog legal again. Replaced recently are :

The missing catyltic convertor
the fuel tank
the oxygen sensor
all the vacuum lines have been replaced and routed properly
the fuel system has been flushed all injectors disassembled and cleaned
The water pump and thermostat replaced cooling system flushed
the cap rotor wires plugs all new
new carpet installed
tires were new 3k miles ago
The right wheel bearing and cv shaft have both been replaced

The car appears stock on the outside other than being lowered slightly. The paint appears to be original small dings on the sides of the vehicle . There is a small dent on the right front fender and a small rust spot in right rear lower roll pan, The interior is very nice the dash id rate 9 out of ten. the seats 8 carpet again is new .The stock snowflake wheels are in very good condition

The aftermarket stuff :
Nuespeed throttle body
front and rear strut tower braces
lowering springs
k/n air filter in the stock air box
double down pipe header and complete techtonics exhaust

This is a nice car not perfect. it runs and drives great and looks good and is California smog legal !. Current mileage is 105,xxx
It is in better condition mechanically and body than the one I had in the ninties

Still needed :
rear hatch sticker needs to be replaced old one was removed because it was faded / cracked
headliner was sagging I cleaned shell off it needs to be recovered
rear wiper is arm is missing
rear seat door panels and shifter console are faded I was going to have them dyed when I got the headliner recovered.

Making it smog legal for California is no small task, so rejoice sun lovers, here’s one for you. The list of needs isn’t too long, but a careful look at the photos shows the seller noting rust in a few areas. As long as it’s not extensive it should be able to be corrected before it spreads too far. With new tires, mechanical service and some subtle modifications, this car looks like a great driver! I highly doubt that it will get anywhere near the pricepoint of the 1983 model, but there are already 19 bids with 4 days left as of writing; it will be interesting to see where this car ends up relative to the 1983, but if I had to guess it would be in the $6,000 – $8,000 range.

-Carter

Motorsport Monday Part 1: 1983 Audi Quattro

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While all of the major German marques played in the rough stuff from time to time, Audi was the undisputed king of the mud in the 1980s. By revolutionizing the World Rally Championship to include all-wheel drive and turbocharging, Audi set the bar at a new high. Truth be told, the A1 was a fairly flawed car compared to the monsters it would spawn later, but it’s the legend most think of when talking about the legendarily rally cars of the 1980s. Even the A1’s replacements – the beefed up A2 and later the S1 Sport were quite flawed and by 1985, despite creating one of the most powerful rally cars ever run, Audi was out of the game with the end of Group B. The death of Group B did more to solidify the reputation of these cars than any victories they won; they were “too fast to race”, a myth that still lives on today. In reality by the mid 1990s modern tire technology and updated turbo and computer technology meant that even in regulated form (I’m looking at you, Toyota), the new generation of WRC cars were faster than the fearsome Group B cars ever were – they were just a whole lot easier to control at the limit.

But none of that matters, because what you and everyone else who knows these cars remembers were the roaring 5-cylinders, belching flames and chirping blow-off valves, and images of Walter left-foot braking it to keep on boost, resulting in lurid power slides through the forest with trees and people only inches from the hood. Dramatic scene for sure! The result is that many replica rally cars have been created from street Quattros, such as the one we’re looking at today:

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Year: 1983
Model: Quattro
Engine: 2.7 twin-turbocharged V6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: N/A mi
Price: GBP 49,995 ($80,792 today)

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1983 Audi Quattro on Car and Classic UK

I have for sale a UR Audi Quattro Turbo rally car.

The car was made several years ago by the previous owner and consists of the following specification:

1983 UR Audi Quattro Turbo shell

Stack dash with analogue tachometer, digital boost, lap timer and various other info.

Full bolt in rollcage

Movit front and rear callipers

Seperate rear calliper for 2nd handbrake

Hydraluic handbrake

Strengthened jacking points

Bosch 044 pump

Adjustable front tie bar

Works type wishbones

Rear ARB

Enginer undercover protector

Rear differential undercover protector

9J x 16 Azev wheels x4 + spare

New tyres x4

Proflex hydraulic fully adjustable front and rear suspension

Aluminium passenger kick plate

Full Sport Quattro LWB bodykit and headlights

4 Hella driving lamps

2 zenon hella spotlights

Custom made spot light brackets

3″ bespoke Miltek exhaust system made from titanium costing £6K

Tuned RS4 V6 twin turbo engine fitted and mapped by QST to a reliable 650 BHP and limited to 198mph

Competition clutch

Motordrive rallyseats with adjustable platforms

Rally 5 point harnesses

Full fire extinguisher system

Tripmeter

Intercom – Peltor

Bespoke alloy fuel tank with 110 litre capacity

This vehicle has run as the OO pace car in the 2011/2012 Circuit of Ireland rally and the 2011/2012 Ulster rally + others. It is MSA Log booked but currently has no restrictors fitted.

It is very reliable, extremely fast and handles like you wouldn’t believe.

The car will be MOT’d this weekend and taxed.

Build cost was approximately £70K.

More pictures available on request.

Unconventional is a good descriptor for this build, but in many ways, it makes sense. 650 is possible but expensive out of a 20V Turbo, plus unless you score one of the mega-rare aluminum 5 cylinder works blocks, you’re looking at a huge iron lump out in front of the wheels. Moving to the V6 chops a few inches of metal out and pushes the weight distribution back, plus the V6s are a little quicker on spoolup than the single turbo inline-5s. It has a bolt in cage and some trick replica bodywork and graphics, so it’s ready to hit the track. There are additional nice items like the huge baffled fuel tank, wide white wheels, the skid plates and enough lights to land a 747. It sure looks the part.

I do have a few problems with it, though – first, if I was driving this car in anger in the forest, I’d want the cage welded and probably beefed up. I’ve seen some nasty accidents and the bolt in cages act like can tabs, peeling the floor apart. It could really be a matter of life or death. Second, although I understand why they went V6, I wouldn’t want anything other than a 5 cylinder in there even if it was slower. The soundtrack alone is worth the price of entry! Finally, the price; at $81,000, this car is replicable for less than the asking price. It wouldn’t be easy or quick, but unlike most of the builds we’ve shown, you really could build a car like this for less than the ask. Figure you could get a basket case 10v for less than $8K, there’s $8-10,000 in paint and bodywork, another $10,000 in go fast stuff, and then even a well built 20V turbo would run in the $10,000 range installed. By my math, I think the car could be done for under $50,000 pretty much any way you wanted it. Despite this, it’s neat to see a fairly well executed tribute that’s ready to run, and this car is such; I’m just not sure this is the one I’d Sport for.

-Carter

How high will it go? 1983 Volkswagen GTi Callaway Turbo

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Like the E30 M3, the 944 Turbo and the Audi Quattro, the first generation Volkswagen Golf had a reputation as a bit of a legend in its own time. The father of the “hot hatch” craze of the 1980s, the GTi coupled practicality with performance at a reasonable entry price. For some owners, though, the 100 odd horses under the hood just weren’t enough, and for those well-to-do customers who wanted to scare Porsches and Corvettes on their daily commute, there was the Callaway Turbo option. This particular car had Callaway bump it up to “Stage II” with a scant 1,800 miles on the clock to the tune of $4,500 – in 1983! Since then the car has traveled few miles and appears to be one of the most pristine we’ve seen in a long time, coupled with a rare color combo:

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Year: 1983
Model: Rabbit GTi Callaway Turbo
Engine: 1.8 liter turbocharged inline-4
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 18,561 mi
Price: No Reserve Auction

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1983 Volkswagen GTi Callaway Turbo on eBay

In addition to the many standard items, additional options and information include:

*AM/FM Auto/Rev Cassette Stereo Model: 1983 Rabbit Engine (Call. Turbo)

*Vent Windows 4 Cylinder Fuel Injection

*Color Coordinated Floor Mats Transmission: 5-Speed Performance Trans.

*2-Door Hatchback, GTI 3-Way Catalyst

*Fuel injected engine Title: Clear

*Dual Rear Speakers Color: White with burgundy Interior

*Callaway Stage 2 Turbo Fuel: Gas

200 HP with Intercooler Mileage: 18,561

HISTORY AND CONDITION – One-owner, great-condition 1983 VW GTI that has been garage kept and has only 18,561 actual miles. Purchased December 31, 1982. Turbo installed by Callaway TurboSystems in Old Lyme, Conn., and picked up on 9-2-83.

The owner consistently followed protocol for engine warm-up and cool down after boost (turbocharger) used. Instructions for oil, gas, and engine care are written in front of Owners Manual. All maintenance records are included. Upgraded steering wheel, but original steering wheel is in good condition and goes with the car. A red pin strip was added to the black stripe to match other red trim; easily removed if desired.

Tires have been replaced; battery replaced in 2009. The inspection sticker is good until May 2014. Interior of car like new. Cloth upholstered contoured sport seats, front. No tears, holes, etc., anywhere. Some paint chips on black aluminum bumpers, could be touched up, if desired. The car has original factory paint…no restoration. Questionable if another original 1983 VW GTI Callaway Turbo with this low mileage and in this great condition could be found today.

The owner had a lot of fun driving this car on weekend outings, especially around curves for its handling and quick response at a stop light or passing other cars. This car is an antique so insurance and licensing will not be too hard on the pocketbook. Owner was an engineer who appreciated the technical research and endurance testing for “…a sophisticated product of engineering for which this vehicle was designed for maximum efficiency and driving pleasure,” as stated in the Owners Manual.

This 1983 VW GTI was highlighted at the time by Car and Driver (see Nov. 1982 edition), Road and Track, Motor Trend, Volkswagen and Porsche, and other news magazines. It’s been listed in Automobile magazine as 1981-1984 Volkswagen Rabbit GTI – Collectible Classic. Although rare, this VW GTI has been well cared for and is in great to excellent condition for its age.

Turbocharger cost was an additional $4500.00, added to the cost of this 1983 VW GTI. As a Collectible Classic, this car should maintain or increase in value with inflation.

(Car to be auctioned; reserve will be placed. Reserve the right to end auction; but if it finalizes, will quickly honor your winning bid. Please put deposit of at least $500.00 via PayPal and the balance via wire, check, or other secure method. Buyer is responsible for vehicle pick-up and/or shipping. Effort will be made for inspection of vehicle at buyer’s time and expense prior to close of sale).

On Oct-16-13 at 10:27:50 PDT, seller added the following information:

ADDENDUM TO ORIGINAL AD

Just recently located the complete file compiled by the owner before, during, and after the installation of the Callaway Stage II turbo kit at Callaway TurboSystems in Old Lyme, CONN. It includes the following:

*Excerpts from major Auto magazine articles singing the praises of the 83 VW GTI.

These are from the dealership where the car was purchased with the dealership business

card attached.

*The original window sticker and the original check written for the purchase of the GTI.

*All of the research done by the owner before making the decision to go with the

Callaway System (includes brochures from other turbo systems, magazine articles, etc.)

*Brochures, parts lists, price lists from Callaway TurboSystems and receipts of parts and

installation of Stage II kit including the addition of front stabilizer bar and stiffener and

heavy-duty clutch.

FOLLOWING ITEMS & ANSWERS MAY BE OF INTEREST TO BIDDERS

A number of additional recent pictures are included for bidders’ consideration along with the following information:

1. Regarding original window sticker – In owner’s file with other items including

Callaway Stage II turbosystem installed when car had 1850 miles on it.

2. This is a no-rust car and has never had any rust repair. One possible exception

is some surface rust on suspension, exhaust, or where there are some paint chips, like

on jacking points. The undercarriage is original and has never been retouched,

cleaned, or repainted, so there is some flaking of the original black paint on

suspension components and surface rust is present on these areas but would be easy to

clean and repaint, if desired. Everything is solid.

3. There is a GTI filler plate by the license plate that would be easy to take off, if one

wanted, and put the license plate back in that area. The license plate bracket is bolted

to the underside of the bumper with 2 bolts so its removal will not result in holes in

the bumper that would be visible except from underneath.

4. As mentioned above there has never been any undercoating or painting done to the

undercarriage. It’s original and nothing is covered or hidden from view.

5. Pictures of some of the original paperwork, sides of car taken in Oct 2013, included.

6. There are no dents or creases in the body ever!

7. The owner added an extension to the original shifter. It screws

on and can be removed and replaced with the shift knob.

Talk about setting the market; Rabbit GTis are hard to find in clean condition, and when they’re it great shape they have been commanding strong money. We’ve seen some big dollar Sciroccos in the past few months, but with strong bidding this car has already exceeded $10,000. That’s impressive considering that there are several non-stock items on this car; the steering wheel and shifter extension are interesting to say the least, but the Callaway installation looks typically messy and the front bumper is chipped up, and the rear panel has left holes in the bumper. Despite this this is one of the few clean GTis in white with red interior, and my guess is the super-low mileage on such a tough package to find clean is driving the bidding. The question is, “How high will it go?”

-Carter

1987 Volkswagen Scirocco 16V

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Last month Paul wrote up a pristine white Scirocco 16V that shocked all of us when it hammered for $15,000. That, we’d like to remind you, was substantially more than it cost originally and as far as we know the most money a Scirocco of any sort had changed hands (minus some really cool Group 5 racers). Now we’ll get to see if that was a fluke or where the market is headed on these clean Karmann coupes, as a second pristine Scirocco has appeared with even lower miles than the white one. This time around it’s in the arguably more desirable Tornado Red – take a look at this time capsule survivor:

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Year: 1987
Model: Scirocco 16V
Engine: 1.8 liter inline-4
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 66,280 mi
Price: Reserve Auction

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1987 Volkswagen Scirocco 16V on eBay

1987 VW Scirocco 16 Valve 66K

Hello eBayers! I am very excited to show you this new listing! This is a 1987 Volkswagen Scirocco 16 Valve 5-Speed finished in Tornado Red. This is a real car. Original paint, with the exception of the hood and bumpers, and 66,280 original miles. It comes with its original window sticker, all of the records showing the low mileage through the years, and service manual too.

Driving this car is like a trip through time. I have not seen an original survivor Scirocco like this in years. It is the car that I wish I had in high school but honestly never did. I had a few Sciroccos back then, but never a 16 valve. This is a non –sunroof version and the headroom is far better in these. Also, this car has manual roll down windows and Air Conditioning that blows ice cold.

The Scirocco is tight and clean and absolutely rust free. Not a trace of even surface type rust anywhere. It has lived its life in a garage, warm and dry. The original paint is still beautiful and bright. The weakest part of the finish is the hood that looks to have been re-sprayed 20 years ago and is not holding up as well as the rest of the car. Also, there is a small crease in the driver’s door. I almost had a dent doctor see if he could make the small crease go away with the magic they do but did not get a chance. Original cars are sad to paint, but the door may need to be repaired and the hood is an easy job, it is original to the car. Paint always fell off the bumpers of these cars and this one was no exception. They were repainted, but look great. The “16V” badge is missing from the rear, I hope it is making a nice necklace someplace.

The interior is in really good and original condition. The drivers bolster needs to be repaired but that is as bad as it gets. Carpet, headliner, dash, door panels, all beautiful. No smells or odors or surprises.

The car runs great and drives great too. No leaks or smoking or hard starts. The clutch is strong, the shift linkage is tight. The brakes stop straight and true and the VW goes straight down the road at any speed.

I hope the pictures demonstrate how nice this car really is. It could be perfect with the few cosmetic issues repaired. I wanted to showcase the car exactly as I found it. I didn’t even have to wash it. It has always been loved and cared for.

This VW has all of the vintage 80s appeal and will surely be one to hold on to for future appreciation.

I am setting the reserve very low and I know the Scirocco will sell the first go around as long as we all play by these rules.

#1. Only bid if you have intentions to buy.

#2. Ask any and all questions before bidding.

#3. Please contact me BEFORE BIDDING if you have zero or negative feedback.

#4. This is an AS-IS sale. I have done my best to describe it exactly as I see it but it has no warranties or guarantees except a clean and clear legal title after payment.

#5. I will not accept Pay-Pal for the balance payment of the VW. Pay-Pal for deposit only, balance must be paid by certified check or wire. Legitimate and legal buyers only please.

Just be real and genuine and I will make sure that the winning bidder is happy with his or her purchase. I have 100% positive feedback and I plan on keeping that. Also, I will end the sale for the right offer so don’t wait till the last second and worry about missing out. Just call me and we will work out a fair price..

I’m Justin my Phone number is 503-969-5127

Impressive is the one word I’d sum this car up with. Tornado Red is a hard color to keep looking great over time because of the lack of clearcoat – you really have to stay on top of it to keep it looking sharp. While the hood and bumper were resprayed the rest of the car looks immaculate, as do the hard to keep clean teardrop wheels. This was a base 16V, with roll up windows and no sunroof but taller folks not into older VW electrics will appreciate both of those items. The shots of the underneath of the car are downright impressive; coming from someone who lives New England, you just don’t see cars that look like that around here.

There are a few minor details that are in need of attention in a car of this caliber; the 16V badge is missing from the front, the hood rod catch is broken, and most notably the seat bolster on the driver’s side is ripped. However, I doubt any of those items will stop a die-hard Scirocco fan from loving this car. The Pacific Northwest has been a recent hotbed of rare Audi and Volkswagen finds, all of them commanding strong money. With this Scirocco in a reserve auction, will we see it come close to the 15K mark set by the white car? If any one can do it, this might just be the one.

Hat tip to our reader Nik for sending this one to us – thanks Nik and great find!

-Carter

1984 Volkswagen GTI

I can summarize my 1984 Volkswagen GTI experience as a trial. First, it was trial by rust; there were few parts of the car that didn’t contain some rusty bits. It actually became a bit of a joke with my friends where we would say that it was on a perpetual weight loss program and dubbed it the “Rusty Rabbit”, a name that still survives today though undoubtedly the car is long gone. The final trial, though, was trial by fire when the fusebox unceremoniously and spontaneously combusted while driving home, eliminating all electrical items from functioning in the interior. Still, there was something that was a lot of fun about that car – it sure felt connected to the road, and made me smile when it wasn’t trying to kill me. When I owned mine, it was rare to see a decent one on the roads, and now 15 years later, it’s even more rare, but a few good ones do survive, and today we found one:

Year: 1984
Model: GTI
Engine: 1.8 liter inline-4
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 166,000 mi
Price: Reserve auction

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1984 Volkswagen GTI on eBay

okay –

i’ve had the rabbit for 7-8 years now -it has mostly sat in the garage during that time as i was living out of state. i bought it from a good friend that added audi throttle body, momo steering wheel, sway bars, springs and shocks when he owned it – all minor stuff. ( it is stock otherwise)
it was garage kept then too. he claims it had never been rained on

when i moved back to kentucky, i put new tires on it, new gas tank and lines, new fuse panel and electrical under the dash cd/stereo receiver, there is more i’m sure – i think all receipts are in glove box. I’ve changed the oil regularly and just had it tuned up so it’s running great.

it needs a new windshield, there is a tiny ding on the hood ( which is really the only bad place on the car) and there is a leak on the passenger side floor board- when it rains. could be bad seal around windshield.

other than that – it needs a few interior pieces. (new visor, gear shift cover, various knobs) still though, the interior is a 7 out of 10 for sure.

The greatest thing this car has going for it is the body – there is no rust anywhere.

thanks for looking.

There aren’t too many times that you can own an automotive legend on the cheap, but this may just be the best one. This car (unlike mine) appears to be well cared for by the previous owners, so you’ve got a leg up on most examples right there. The second – and critical one when buying an A1 Volkswagen – is the claimed lack of rust. This all but eliminated these cars from the New England market where they had been so popular. It’s so bad even the hipsters can’t be ironic enough to resurrect an A1 to drive around in a tortured manner up here – and that should tell you something when I regularly see them cruising in 2002s.

There are a few warning signs – the Fuba roof mounted hood means there’s a hole there, so you’d be advised to check for rustproofing. The headliner isn’t in great shape and the paint looks a bit tired, but VW paint from this era rarely looks good so that’s no surprise. Shockingly, the rest of the original interior (minus the steering wheel) appears to be in pretty good shape – including the original “Golf Ball” shift knob, a nod to the European name Golf and completely lost upon the American market with the Rabbit moniker. There are some common upgrades to these cars present, but best in my mind is that the original snowflakes are still there. I’ve always had a soft spot in my heart for these wheels. As I write this, the reserve has not been met with bidding in the mid-$3,000 range. I’d expect that reserve to be between $4,000 to $6,000 based upon what we’ve seen these cars going for in the past two or three years. This car could be a great way to get into a pretty clean example without (at least some of) the headaches I experiences. Time to go three wheelin’!

-Carter