The spectrum of colors that has appeared on the Porsche 911 over the years is vast, to say the least. Here we have an oddball color, Rubystone Red, on a rather butch looking 964 Turbo. While not completely original, the upgrades have been tasteful, as the description illustrates.
The seller states:
You are viewing an extremely rare Porsche 911 turbo. This 965 is finished in Rubystone Red (looks purple in most light or even magenta) and is one of as few as perhaps 2 made in this color of the 674 brought to the usa for 1991! This car has been owned by the same person for 12+ years. It had just 19,497 miles when the previous owner bought it in March of 1998. The Rubystone Red paint appears to be original and all of the panels are original to the car and still have their VIN# stickers, etc. in their proper locations. The previous owner had a 1994 turbo 3.6 s engine installed in the car several years ago and then had the local independent Porsche specialst shop go through the motor and make some modifications. If you are still reading this then you probably know how rare the 3.6 Turbo S cars are and what an impressive engine this is! Porsche built just 155 option code x88 turbo 3.6 s engines! It was conservatively rated at 385 hp according to flachbau.com. Most of these engines were installed in the flat nose cars, but a customer could special order one for installation in a regular ’94 turbo as well. Here are some other details about this rare Porsche:
• M64/50 S TURBO 3.6 S ENGINE OPTION CODE X88
• REBUILT FOR $21K 12K MILES AGO BY AN EXPERT PORSCHE SHOP
• TWIN PLUG CYLINDER HEADS
• PORTED CYLINDER HEADS TO 38mm (PLENUM MATCHED AT 38mm)
• GT2 EVO CAMS
• ALIGN BORED CASES
• MICRO POLISHED CRANK
• ALL NEW BEARINGS, ROD BOLTS, HEAD STUDS, ETC.
• B&B STAINLESS STEEL EXHAUST
• REBUILT 5 SPEED TRANSMISSION
• UP-DATED CLUTCH RELEASE ARM
• FUEL ENRICHMENT SYSTEM
• NEW COMPLETE 3.6 TURBO FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM ($3K!)
• REAL 18 INCH SPEEDLINE TURBO 3.6 3 PIECE WHEELS! (WORTH A SMALL FORTUNE BY THEMSELVES!)
• SUPPLE LEATHER INTERIOR WITH PURPLE PIPING
• FACTORY AC
• FACTORY SUNROOF
• AM-FM CD (NICE AFTERMARKET UNIT)
• COIL OVER ADJUSTABLE SUSPENSION
• LOWERED TO EUROPEAN RIDE HEIGHT
The 964 is only beginning to appreciate in value, as it has always been kind of the stepchild between the 3.2 models and the last air cooled 993 versions. For a car with tasteful modifications that has been preserved well with tasteful modifications, the asking price seems almost a bargain.
Here we have three of the race cars that appeared for sale over at the Watkins Glen vintage festival. Perfect for the weekend wrencher to get sorted out over the winter and go racing next season.
Up first is a 1970 914. This car has been raced for 20 years and the owner says it comes with Porsche Club of America log books. The seller also says the car has been competitive, but I’m not sure that means a whole lot when the advertisement also says that it comes without an engine. Fiberglass body works make the car light. 911 suspension setup will keep it on the road. If you have an extra Porsche engine you aren’t sure what to do with here you go.
Next up I came across an interesting 944 Turbo that ran in the Escort race series driven by Dereck Bell and Bill Adam. It is a genuine Rothmans sponsored car and claimed as one of only 12 factory built, lightweight, racers for the series. The car is still on the Porsche MSO which is kind of neat and comes with documented history. Owner says the car has been stored for 7+ years, but has new brakes and an engine rebuild. So it sounds like a little sorting and this car is ready to go. Would make quick street/track car.
Then there is this Devin D that, while not German, does come loaded with a Porsche 356 1600 engine and a VW gearbox. Supposedly owned and raced by a Gulf Oil Racing Team mechanic in the 1960s. This one clearly looks like it needs some serious work, but it is a pretty simple proposition if the body work is all there. Devin’s are cool American built racers that will give a new owner a very unique ride. In my opinion these are much nicer than a modern Cobra kit car.
More to come from Watkins Glen in the following days.
Having just returned from my annual “business trip” to the Glenora Wine Cellars, formerly Zippo, U.S. Vintage Grand Prix and Racing Festival in Watkins Glen New York I thought it would be appropriate to give you a taste of some of the German metal out on display. In the next couple of days I’ll put up some posts of several of the German street and race cars that I came across for sale while cruising the garage and paddock. Over the course of the weekend I saw all the major marques we cover, except one, represented racing on the track and though there wasn’t one racing, an Opel GT was prowling the car corral. If you ever find yourself near the Fingerlakes region of New York early in September put this event on your calendar. It continues to be one of the largest vintage racing events in the country seeing between 400 and 500 of the finest and funkiest vintage and modern classic racers zooming around the birth place of road racing in America. Here is a small look at a few of the German machines:
The fast included:
1. a legendary 2000 Audi R8 that turned the fastest time of all competitors with ease.
2. a pair of BMW CSL racers looking and sounding fantastic.
3. a pair of serious M powered Formula cars.
4. a new 2011 Mercedes SLS, parked next to an equally fast Ferrari 599, I overheard someone say both cars were for sale.
5. Speaking of fast and Ferrari, the Audi S4 pictured in this photo can be seen leading a Ferrari 355 challenge. When the rains came Sunday the Audi took control garnering a second place overall in its class race. Despite a fogged windshield, due to non functioning defroster, the Audi left the Ferrari far behind in a roar of turbo whine and quattro powered rain plumes.
6-7.Audi wasn’t the only German with a quest to beat up on Ferrari, note the badge on the rear of this mean sounding Mercedes 190E 2.3-16V. Unfortunately for this Merc it finished back in the pack unceremoniously being out driven by the likes of a 4 door Peugeot 505.
The funny included:
8-9. Some of the amusing Porsche badges on the Pirate Racing team.
10.a Mercedes 190E M sport.
11. a BMW 323i with a bumper sticker describing how it feels being out on the track.
The pretty included:
12. a nice looking BMW E28 M5
13. a cherry 500E with some contemporary German pals.
The doesn’t fit in any category:
14. a Vixen 21 BMW powered motorhome. These are extremely rare, 100 MPH RVs. Around 500 total were built and I suspect that combining the words high-speed and motorhome has resulted in far fewer surviving today. Ironically Jalopnik posted a picture of one just yesterday in a post about “Automotive Unicorns”. This one looked every bit like it came straight out of the movie Blade Runner. Very cool.
With just under 4,000 produced for 1990, the Porsche 944 S2 cabriolet is one of those classics you don’t see every day. Finding low mileage ones without the automatic transmission is even more difficult. Here we have a clean example that fits both of the above criteria. The S2 model also had the biggest production four cylinder engine of its time, at 3.0 liters. With the manual transmission, this was good for 0-60mph runs in the low six second range.
The seller states:
Nicest S2 convertible available!! No dents or dings, smoke-free, no fading, blue leather interior, all original, 3.0 liter 4 cylinder, new convertible top, stereo does not work.
If this car checks out on Carfax and is mechanically sound, it could be a fairly economical way into open air Porsche motoring. Having driven an earlier non-S2 944, I can attest that it was not a slow car, but one that wasn’t a hair raiser. Even though it isn’t an iconic 911 and has a broken radio (and who needs it) you surely would be the only one on the block with a 944 cabriolet.
We don’t really post vehicles like this, because really if you can’t hear the growl of a finely tuned piece of German craftsmanship or smell the fumes, what’s the point right?
Well loyal reader Bob pointed this out to me and I was bored tonight so here it is for you folks who want a German Prius.
$15,000 gets you a plug in Porsche with 92,000 miles on the body. Here are the details from the seller:
144 volt system
Azure Dynamics/Solectria AC24 3-Phase AC Motor and DMOC445 Controller
Zivan NG3 onboard charger
Iota DLS-45 DC/DC converter
New batteries as of August 2009 (US Battery US8VGC)
Highway driveable electric conversion. This is the AC VoltsPorsche kit from ElectroAutomotive (www.electroauto.com). The AC motor/controller allows for custom settings of the controller and regenerative braking to increase range and save wear and tear on the brakes. Extras include Custom wheels, CD stereo, Aluminum seat adjuster handles, Custom steering wheel, Rebuilt VDO clock, Fog lights, European style front turn signals, All rear lights are super-bright LEDs, Oil/Alternator light displays controller status, Controller also drives tachometer, Upgraded brakes with BMW320i calipers.
For more information see: http://www.evalbum.com/2615
For a detailed diary of the actual conversion, please see: http://914ev.blogspot.com/
I struggled with the 964 scavenger hunt to be honest, but this in turn taught me an invaluable lesson on the challenge of finding that just right Porsche. Perhaps owing to its longevity and continuous shape, the 911 is pretty much the ubiquitous sports car, and even for the relatively-educated model years and changes can blend together. I love Porsches, but being more of a BMW/VW guy, I’ll bashfully admit that sometimes I’ve lumped them together as “another 911.”
Late-model, black on black RWD 964s are apparently not just “another 911.” So this became an exciting scavenger hunt for me. The closest example I could find was a Turbo, which probably puts it in the “too much money” category, but it’s still worth a good look because this is a beautiful car. Low-mileage and pure early-90s Zuffenhausen sex, this is one of the best of the breed.
1992 Porsche 911 Turbo for sale on SF Craigslist
If Evan’s Lightweight 3.3 Turbo can go for ~$64k American, $48,800 for this immaculate 911 Turbo seems fairly reasonable. The interior is impeccable and the exterior looks flawless, a black-on-black beauty. It’s no bargain, but it’s not just another 911 either.
Here’s an early, but relatively low mileage example of the 964 chassis 911, which is becoming more of a collectors item as time passes. This example has also undergone a recent comprehensive service, which, no doubt, is of great value to potential buyers.
The seller states:
This 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 is in excellent cosmetic and mechanical condition. It is a 2-Owner Carfax Certified vehicle with zero accident history. It has always been a local car and was recently brought to us and needed some attention. Our expert 30 year Porsche Mechanics have compltety gone through this car and brought everything it needed up to date. We have adjusted the vavles, replaced the plugs and caps, rotors, brakes, air filters, replaced all belts, replaced the chain cover seals, replaced the battery and cleaned and degreased the motor. The electronics have been sorted and are in excellent working order and the front fender was repainted due to a large dent it obtained while in storage. In addition we have the former owners file on this car that contains mostly dealer service records over the years.
$20k is about spot on for values of 964 Carreras. I personally would prefer the two wheel drive version but for those living in colder climates, it could be a bonus.
You are going to see several Porsche 964s this week as we all went out on a scavenger hunt for a reader/client request and I thought these would be worthy of posting.
My pick for this challenge hails from the United Kingdom. If money was no option you obviously go with the best you can afford. This 1991 964 isn’t the best money can buy, but at a £31,850 ask price it is getting up there. The car holds a resale value well as despite being in the U.K. it is left hand drive. This particular model is a lightweight version ready for track day with a cage, suspension work, and harnesses. It is a 3.3 turbo with 3.8 RS look body.
The vehicle appears to show some use, (is that rust around the engine compartment?), but the seller does not give mileage.
The seller, http://www.seanlockyear.co.uk, looks to specialize in some unique Porsches so I would bet it has been well sorted. There are plenty of cheaper 964s out there, but I like that the seller describes this one as “Hang on it’ll be a wild ride!” I concur.
The 912 is one of those Porsches oft forgotten. Introduced in 1965 as an entry level alternative to the more powerful 911, the four cylinder 912 had a production run that spanned five years until the introduction of the 914, the mid-engined Porsche/VW collaboration. The 912 returned briefly to the US market in 1976 as the 912E, only being sold in the United States. This particular example has been well documented and preserved, still retaining the sought after California black plates.
The seller states:
This two owner car has been in sunny Southern California all its life and was in private collection for the last 15 years. Car still retains its original black and yellow California plates. Beautiful color combination that you do not see often. According to service records [can track mileage back from work performed from 99K to present] and previous owner this car has 128K miles. This is a rare 3 gauge with four speed transmission.
Has the proper horn button and steering wheel. Putting leather wrap on the wheel but could use refinishing. All numbers match. Engine #745905. Paint code is 6604. And VIN is 455742. Comes with factory 912 owners manual [not a reproduction]. The pans are all factory original and have no rust. Has 5 steel wheels which I believe have always been on this car. Factory Euro air cleaners with Solex carbs. Trunk has factory installed carpet which has never been changed and is still in good shape considering its age.
This car has a very high quality paint. All windows rubbers, bumpers, door handles, etc. were removed and car was taken down to metal for repaint. Here is a partial list of maintenance and repairs done in the last 18k miles. All work documented with receipts from very reputable shop.
Solex carbs rebuilt
Brakes and calipers
Shocks and struts [Bilstein]
Dash redone to factory specs with speaker holes
Seat reupholstered. Interior was always red [not a color change]
There are other smaller items. Just listed major repairs.
The 912 models obviously sell for less than their contemporary 911 siblings, but these smaller engined variants can regularly money similar to the later 911SC models. NADA is listing high retail at just shy of $20,000. With the history and documentation on this car, it wouldn’t be surprising to see it go in the mid $20k range.
This well cared for, 74,000 mile, Porsche received engine and transmission overhaul work back in 1982 and more recently had a full cosmetic restoration. It really looks nice in black with white racing stripes. The owner says that the car has a custom exhaust and new radio amongst some upgrades. The bare metal respray cost $12,000 and there is $50,000 in total receipts. The car sits on 14″ Fuchs.
This is a real nice looker and from the description it sounds like the drive is great as well. It is currently bid up to $22,500, reserve not met, with several days left. The seller offers plenty of opportunity to visit the car in person and seems perfectly legit, but does have low eBay feedback numbers.