10K Friday: 2001 – An Executive Odyssey – S8 v. 740i Sport

A few weeks ago, Paul wrote up a low mile 1995 740i, always a favorite of ours here at GCFSB. Also a favorite is the D2 S8. Together, they represent in our minds the pinnacle of large executive designs – fast, comfortable, quiet, and with enough presence to draw respectful looks without being overstated, showy or brash. We also think that these two executive sedans are better looking than the multiple generations that have replaced them. While performance and luxury have increased in both BMW and Audi, in our opinion both of these cars are the high-water marks for their respective brands. So, which would you rather have? Let’s start with the S8:

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2000 Mercedes-Benz E55 AMG

AMG models underwent an interesting adolescence when they were absorbed into Mercedes-Benz properly. At their birth they were the wild child, making bad boys out of unassuming Benzs by adorning them with spoilers, giant wheels and larger than life motors. But then there was a calming period when Mercedes started offering AMG wheels and body styling on basically every model, making the late 1990s and into 2000s hard to identify a true AMG from the run of the mill cars with big wheels. Since then, AMG has truly blossomed into a full-blown psychopathic anti-social Prius killing Frankenstein maker, but the cars of the early 2000s were more subtle and fly much lower on the radar. One of the best examples of this is the original E55 – a car outshone by both it’s father 500E/E500 and the ubiquitous M5. Consequently, a smart buyer can pick up one of these Autobahn masters for not much money. Today’s example is a perfect case in point:

Year: 2000
Model: E55 AMG
Engine: 5.4 liter V8
Transmission: 5-speed automatic
Mileage: 85,222 mi
Price: $10,900 Buy It Now

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I spent almost a year looking for the best, low mileage W210 E55 AMG I could find. And found it a few months ago, but sadly a house purchase required far more cash then I expected. So after selling an Alfa, a GTI, I now have to sell my AMG. The car is amazingly clean, and looks as good in person as it does in the photos. Underneath, inside and under the hood all are clean and show how well maintained and pampered this vehicle has been. The exterior and interior of this car are very impressive.

I bought the car from the second owner. The car fax is a little confusing since he leased it as a used vehicle in 2000 then bought it off lease. The paper work that comes with the vehicle will verify that the second owner started ownership in 2000 when the car had around 15k on it. The car has a clean car fax (which I can email to you if you are interested). There are no accidents or issues. I have most of the service records for the vehicle which show that it was usually maintained at the Mercedes Benz dealer. I had Mercedes Benz do a pre-purchase inspection and they found no problems. The brakes are at 50%, the tires are Michelin Pilot Sports all around with good tread. The car does not use any fluids. All the gadgets, buttons, windows, power sunshades, headlight washers, AC and etc all work. The only fault is I only have the one key, and it sometimes says there is a bulb out even though all the lights work. This car was always garaged (and still is), and has never been driven in winter. The wheels have no curb rash. You can tell this car has always been loved.

I do have the car for sale locally and recently had an interested buyer do a thorough inspection of the car. He found a few issues that initially raised some concern on my part. The passenger side valve cover gasket has some very slight oil residue on the front, and when he read the car’s OBD outlet he found the code for a possible oxygen sensor code. I called the Mercedes Benz dealer that did the pre-purchase inspection and voiced my concern about these issues. They expressed that all E55 AMGs of this vintage have some oil residue on the valve cover gaskets and that they were not concerned. As for the oxygen sensor they were not concerned since the car passed emissions with no problems and runs and drives with no issues. I am disclosing everything I know about this vehicle. It looks beautiful, is solid and tight with no rattles, shakes, or noises of any sort. Like everyone says “I would not hesitate to drive this car across the country” and in this case it would be the perfect ride! I am driving the car a few times a week so the miles are going up. If you have a zero rating please contact me before you bid. Please do not hesitate to call or email me with questions or concerns.

On Nov-08-13 at 06:54:47 PST, seller added the following information:

I forgot to ad that the transmission service was just done. There were no issues with the transmission, it shifted smoothly and has no problems. But since I planned on keeping this car for a long time the service was done. Mercedes Benz fluid was used, all the fluid from the pan and converter was drained, new filter, upgraded electrical plug, and filled perfectly using optical thermometer. The oil was just changed at the Mercedes Dealer when they did the pre-purchase inspection.

The other item to clear up is that is says four owners on the car fax when it is only three. The second and third owners are the same person since he leased the vehicle then bought it out at the end of the lease. Then I purchased the car from him.

The car is currently inspected and insured so if you would like to come take a drive please contact me.
Thanks

$11,000 is well shy of what the equivalent M5 would bring, and even in some cases less than E34 M5s. Heck, we’ve even seen original S4s and 200 quattros start to bring this sort of money. With lower miles in the classic and signature silver over black, the seller has been seemingly very up front about the condition of the car and needs – of which it has few. The car looks in very impressive condition and much nicer than the last E55 I found for V8 week a few months back. If you’re looking for a fast executive sedan that you can generally hide pretty well in and afford to keep, this might just be a great option for you.

-Carter

1991 Audi 200 20V Turbo Quattro Avant – REVISIT

There was a lot of interest in the black 91 200 20V Turbo Quattro Avant Paul wrote up last month. Rightly so, since it was a classic color, in fantastic shape, and had lower miles. As one of our readers noted, it was no surprise that car disappeared in a hurry. Running across these 200s – especially in the more understated black or silver colors – is pretty tough, and finding any color in good shape is becoming a longer search. Today I found the same Lago Blue Metallic 200 20V Turbo Quattro Avant for sale that we featured last year on GCFSB. The seller has lowered the price by $1,000.

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Year: 1991
Model: 200 20V Turbo Quattro Avant
Engine: 2.2 liter turbocharged inline-5
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 215,000 mi
Price: $5,700

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1991 Audi 200 turbo quattro Avant – This is an amazing example of a 1 year only vehicle that is both fun and very practicle. 215,000 well kept miles. Just had the timing belt done, new brake accumulater (bomb), complete tuneup, new battery and new headliner. This is the first year of the 20 valve turbo motor and with the stage II chip and 3 inch custom exhaust it is running at just about 280hp. We get a constant 20mpg and have seen a best tank of freeway driving of 26mpg. The interior is in excellent shape with only some padding break down in the drivers side bolster of the drivers side sport seat. The factory sport seats are excellent and the seat adjustment memory panel functions great as do the original seat heaters. The only two things that aren�t operating well is that the sunroof motor is very slow and the airbag light is on due to the clockspring being worn. Other mods include euro lights with relays, H&R sport springs with Koni adjustable struts, upper strut bar for extra chassis stiffness, Porsche big red brake calipers in the front, 17� Ronal R-28 wheels with low mileage 215/50/17 Toyo Proxes4 tires. The wheels have some slight curbage from daily driving but present well. The traction of this car is absolutely amazing and this is one of the last cars with the center diff lock and the ABS switch to turn off the ABS. I also have plenty of high quality Mann and Mahle oil filters and the three volume set of factory manuals that will go with the sale. We have put 100,000 miles on this car with virtually no problems and still have a hard time giving it up since there is very little out there that compares (supposedly less than 200 of these 91 20 valve turbo wagons were brought into the states). This car will pull hard to over 130mph (not that I have done that) gets over 20mpg and can easily carry a family of 4 and a dog in complete luxury in any weather condition and all of that for only $5,700 obo.

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I owned a Lago 200 10V Avant for a while, and it was a very capable highway cruiser that left me with lots of memories. As much as I liked that car, I always wished that it was one of the bigger brother 20V models. This car looks to be in good shape despite the high miles, and as you’ll hear from most who have owned one of these generation Audis, higher miles shouldn’t scare the prospective buyer away. Yes, there will be more repairs down the line – especially with the hydraulic system – but these are well built and solid cars. This particular car has some nice upgrades, such as relayed Euro lights and upgraded H&R suspension to help eliminate the float. While I miss the stock 15×7.5 BBSs (or even better on these cars, the optional Euro market 16″ BBSs), it is nice to see those Porsche boat anchors under the Ronal spokes. The sport seats are also the preferred option for most buyers; both my V8 and 200 had the comfort seats and they don’t offer much support in the corners, nor were they particularly comfortable.

$5,700 is a few thousand less than the black 200 Paul wrote up, but as the miles climb the market for these cars shrinks. It’ll likely be a die hard Audi fan that picks this car up, and my guess is that it will probably be in addition to another stablemate to take some of the daily driver heat away. Still, it looks way too nice to be a winter beater, but for less than $6,000 this car offers a great glimpse into German motoring with a healthy dose of practicality – plus, with dwindling numbers remaining you’re just about guaranteed to not see another pass you on the road.

-Carter

Double Take: A Duo of Audi S6 quattros

Like the last “Double Take” I did on two Passat W8 Variants, today’s double feature is two powerful eight cylinder all-wheel drive wagons from the Volkswagen Audi Group – this time, it’s two S6 quattro Avants. Like the W8, these S6s were pricey when new but have maintained a cult following that loves them. Rare to see anywhere you go, they offer lots of speed from their 340hp V8s, lots of comfort from their luxurious interiors, all-weather capability and a massive load capacity. Today we’ll start by looking at an Atlas Grey 2003 and finish with a Pearlesant White 2002:

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Year: 2003
Model: S6 quattro
Engine: 4.2 liter V8
Transmission: 5-speed automatic
Mileage: 96,156 mi
Price: $16,999 Buy It Now

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2003 Audi S6 AVANT

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The paint has a showroom shine. This vehicle was tastefully optioned. With just 96098 miles, this car is barely broken in. Very low mileage vehicle. Very clean interior! Very smooth ride!

IF YOU DO NOT SEE THE MANUAL, FLOOR MATS, SPARE KEYS, OR ANY OTHER ACCESSORIES IN OUR PHOTOS, THE VEHICLE MAY NOT COME WITH THEM. PLEASE ALSO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE MILEAGE ON SOME OF THE VEHICLES MAY BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN APPEARS IN THE LISTING, AS THE VEHICLE MAY BE DRIVEN/TEST DRIVEN DURING THE LISTING PERIOD.

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The second S6 comes from a one-owner home in the much more rare Pearlesant White, with more miles but at a much lower entry price.

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Year: 2002
Model: S6 quattro
Engine: 4.2 liter V8
Transmission: 5-speed automatic
Mileage: 136,976 mi
Price: Reserve Auction, $8,000 opening bid

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2002 Audi S6 quattro Avant on eBay

Original owner, carefully maintained with all records, So. Cal car, always garaged, smoke-free, AC, auto, GPS

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Well, there you go. Two very complicated, very expensive to maintain cars, both with zero records offered in the ad print. These cars are notoriously tough on the wallet, but like the W8s offer a unique combination of speed and practicality that few others can. I would guess that you’re more likely to find some records with the one-owner Pearlesant car, but the dealer has presented the lower-mile Atlas Grey car much better. Indeed, the 03 shows little wear to its light colored leather; certainly less than the 02 shows. That said, the entry price on the 03 seems well out of line with the market. I reviewed a S6 Avant last month that had slightly more mileage, incorrect wheels but some tasteful modifcations, but that car has still failed to sell despite now being priced $6,000 less. I would say the Atlas Grey car should fetch $10,000 – $12,000, and the Pearlesant White car should stay between $8,000 and $10,000. But as many comments have noted, the entry price may just be the tip of the iceberg, so if you’re serious about getting into one of these cars, get a thorough pre purchase inspection.

-Carter