Golden Green 1967 Porsche 912 Soft-window Targa


Update 11/13/18: This 912 Soft-window Targa sold for $50,217.99.

I began my post on a recent 993 Turbo S by stating, “this is everything.” In a very different way my reaction to this Golden Green 1967 Porsche 912 Soft-window Targa is similar. For pure lust the Turbo S certainly wins the day, but some of the allure of that car was in the details and that is where the overlap lies with this 912. There is enough here to pore over that interested parties could spend hours simply looking through these pictures.

We’ll begin with the color. Golden Green is not a color I’ve seen before. It only was available for a couple years in the ’60s and generally isn’t one that we come across among the many PTS 911s that have been produced since. It is sort of in the vein of Lindgrün (also called Chartreuse) that was produced in the ’70s though Golden Green doesn’t look as bright to me. As the name suggests it possesses a yellow/gold hue to its non-metallic green. That golden hue allows it to change kind of dramatically from sun to shade. The pictures here do a pretty good job of capturing that transformation. This is said to be the only Soft-window Targa produced in 1967 in this color with only 4 others made in 1968. So it’s very rare. I don’t know how many Coupes might also exist, but as I said this is the first I have seen it so I’m guessing there aren’t many.

The other part of this is the Soft-window Targa itself, Porsche’s answer to what they thought would be the death of the open-roofed car. Such tragedies never befell the car industry and the soft rear window eventually was replaced with the glass rear with which we’re all very familiar on 911 Targas even to this day. But the SWT is an interesting design and interesting engineering answer to a potential problem. They make for great historical models and given their short production run are quite rare in themselves. So there’s a good bit going on here and the seller has provided quite a few pictures to document this Targa’s condition. Add to all of that it is up for auction without reserve.

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1967 Porsche 912 Soft-window Targa

Honestly, I don’t really like to feature modified Porsches all that often. Some are really attractive and well executed, but the reality is that from a distance it’s always hard to truly gauge them and there is so much subjectivity built into modified cars in general that the market can be extremely narrow. Then there are the asking prices, which in many cases tend to be…let’s just say they’re very optimistic.

That bit of preamble leads me to the modified Porsche we see here: originally a 1967 Porsche 912 Soft-window Targa, but now sporting a 3.2 liter flat-six. It is intended to mirror the ethos of the outlaw and R-Gruppe 911s popular in California and in that regard it serves as an interesting example. I also find it a very interesting use of a 912 Soft-window Targa platform, something which in itself possesses a good deal of quirkiness and which rarely serves this purpose. And that’s why I’m featuring it: among the many modified Porsche 911s and 912s I see this one stands apart quite a bit. It still won’t be for everyone, but there is something very cool about this car that I could see really attracting a lot of attention and conversation.

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Year: 1967
Model: 912 Targa
Engine: 3.2 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: not listed
Price: Reserve Auction

This is a 911 hotrod (or “Outlaw” or “R Gruppe”) made from a 1967 912. It was built by TLG Porsche of N. Hollywood, CA. It was built to imagine what a Soft Window Targa (SWT) R Gruppe 911 would have been. It was an expensive build at the time and built to a high standard of quality. The car started as a stripped 1967 SWT tub. Steel ’73 911 fenders, RS flares and bumpers, RS torsion bars, 930 brakes, and a 915 tranny were added. The wheels are 15″ 7’s and 8’s. A new 3.2 block was built to 285 HP using a mild cam, bigger valves, and a Haltech engine management system. An RS oil cooler was added in the front wheel well. The easily torqued SWT tub was stiffened using a full roll cage that isn’t too visible. It has a heater and a radio.

When I bought this car in 2012, it was running very rough. But without the Haltech software or expertise to tune it, we just couldn’t get it to run properly. So we replaced the EMS with a new PMO carb set. The transmission was also rebuilt. It is now the best shifting 915 I’ve driven. New GTS Classics seats were added, as well as new Schroth Profi II 6-point harnesses. Recently, a MSD 6A ignition unit was added.

The paint is still very nice with only some minor imperfections. The targa top and back window are believed to be original and all in very good shape.

You can’t help but smile when you drive this car. It is stiffer than a coupe. It is a different kind of sleeper that will frustrate the car ahead of or beside you.

Message for more high resolution photos.

Here is a recent cold start video. https://youtu.be/oJGkUmJEesQ Note for some reason, the car shows up as more red than orange in the video. The photos do a better job showing the real color.

We don’t see many short-wheelbase 911/912 with a widened rear like this one, but it makes for a neat design. It’s a bit more squat and rounded looking than the typical 911 of this period. It reminds me a little of the 964 in that regard. The Soft-window Targa completes the aesthetic and this is about as unique a Porsche as you’re likely to see. The strangeness of the SWT rounds out this car’s personality well. I got a bit of a chuckle out of the seller’s comment that the added roll cage “isn’t too visible.” I mean, I’m not really sure how you’d miss it! I suppose from a distance outside the car the point stands, but close up and certainly inside it’s pretty apparent. It doesn’t bother me at all, but I did think it was funny.

Naturally, assuming a buyer’s particular desire for a build like this, you’ll want to give it a full mechanical appraisal. It sounds like the current owner has a decent knowledge of the build and its current operation, but he wasn’t the owner that instigated the original work so there may be issues unknown to this point, or just general points of troubleshooting that it’d be worthwhile to know. If the power is as advertised I imagine it’s a hell of a lot of fun to drive and the added stiffness of the roll cage probably much appreciated. And really that’s just what you’re after with a car like this. Get in and enjoy the drive!

-Rob

1967 Porsche 912 Soft-window Targa

I wouldn’t say it’s all that easy to tell from the pictures, but this appears to be a pretty nice looking and very interesting Porsche 912. Of particular interest is that it is one of the early Targas with the removable rear window, otherwise known as the Soft-window Targa. There aren’t a lot of these because Porsche only kept the design around for a few years before introducing the glass window with which we’re all quite familiar and which became the mainstay of the design until the 993. Of course, contrary to my claim of it being “interesting” the glass window replaced the soft window mostly because buyers preferred it. That does make them rare though and as a window into one of Porsche’s engineering ideas they do make for a nice piece of history.

This particular example is a Black 1967 Porsche 912 Soft-window Targa, located in New York, with Red interior and 70,400 miles on it. The owner claims this color combination is the only one of its kind on this model. I don’t know if that can be verified with certainty, but I feel pretty assured of its rarity regardless of whether it’s the only one.

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Year: 1967
Model: 912 Targa
Engine: 1.6 liter flat-4
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 70,400 mi
Price: $71,999 Buy It Now

Personal circumstances are forcing me to sell my beloved 1967 Porsche 912 soft window Targa, black on red. 100% matching numbers and color codes, confirmed by certificate of authenticity. Both cosmetically and mechanically, the car has been well-maintained during my ownership in order to keep the car in top running condition.

Excellent mechanical condition with original engine and original smooth shifting manual optional 5-speed gearbox. Solid undercarriage and a very straight body. A great investment that is an absolute pleasure to drive while it continues to appreciate.

In total, Porsche produced nearly 30,000 912 coupe units versus only 2500 912 Targas, of which only about 200 soft-windows remain in the registry. This car is the only original black on red 1967 Targa known to exist. (According to the Oct. 1967 Christophorus magazine, only 3% of the 912 production run was black, making any originally black Targa extremely rare, even more so a first year Targa). The 1967, first year Targas with the short wheelbase, green gauges, no side-markers, no smog pump, batwing horn, chrome bumperettes, etc. remain the most elegant and desirable.

70,XXX original miles, confirmed by continuous service records. Never hit or damaged.
Desirable 5 speed transmission and 5 gauge dash. Original dated ventilated chrome wheels, with dated spare (all 2-67). All body panels are original.

High quality, glass out repaint in the original black. The body panels were stripped down to the metal and hand dollied. The remaining undercoating was prepped and sprayed with a catalyzed undercoating product not only on the bottom of the car, but also on the interior floor pan and rear seat area. The entire body was coated with epoxy primer and hand blocked prior to painting, then wet sanded and polished. The entire hood, bumper and headlight area was then professionally covered with Xpel film so there are no rock chips ($1050). The paint has a beautiful, deep gloss shine, and all the brightwork is in good shape.

The body rubber and seals were replaced upon re-assembly.

The car has always been stored indoors and with a high quality custom made cover (Covercraft), which I will include in the sale.

The motor, transmission, and other mechanicals are strong and ready for years of enjoyment by the next owner. The car starts, runs, shifts, brakes, etc. without issue. A stack of receipts and records are included in the sale.

Here is a partial list of new parts/improvements: New soft window, new soft window boot cover, Targa top refinished in correct German Vinyl ($710), new weather stripping all around (over $1500), new screws, gas filler flap & cap, new interior mirror, new Coco Mats, new matching black Porsche center caps. (original center caps also included in sale), custom-made Covercraft cover, custom made velour velcro removable dash cover (to protect the dash on hot days), custom Car Jacket for winter storage, new mounted halide fire extinguisher, new OEM Hella fog lights ($620), new Pirelli tires, new (mechanical) fuel pump, new WEVO shifter, gas tank cleaned, re-sealed and repainted in correct grey, carbs rebuilt and tuned, etc. etc. etc.

The car won Best Porsche at the 2014 Scarsdale Concours (second oldest concours on the East Coast). Personally would not call it a concours car (it is an excellent condition driver) but the judges went for the rarity, great color combo, and highly original presentation.

I can assist in shipping anywhere in the Continental U.S.

We’ve seen some 912s sell for pretty high prices lately when presented in excellent condition and in rare colors so I’ll be pretty curious if this one sells. The price certainly is high for a 912, but it’s not the highest price I’ve seen and the soft-window tends to command a premium. While black never seems like it should be a rare color, as I mentioned in an earlier post this week it doesn’t seem all that common on long-hood Porsches. Combined with the Red interior we certainly have something that should garner plenty of interest.

Again, the pictures aren’t terribly helpful here, but this 912 does look in nice condition all around. It’s said to have its original engine and transmission and that the mileage is fully documented. It’s been repainted though retains all of its original panels. The seats look like they’ve probably been redone, but that isn’t stated. The seller also has provided a list of recently replaced/refurbished items. Given the thorough documentation and originality this Targa should fetch a pretty good price. $72K is a lot for a 912 though so we’ll have to see if it can reach this price.

-Rob

1968 Porsche 911 Soft-window Targa Sportomatic

This might be the quirkiest 911 I could feature. And I don’t mean that in a derogatory way, but rather in the way it utilizes a number of early and short-lived technologies and combines them all in one package. Here we have a Tangerine 1968 Porsche 911 Soft-window Targa, located in California, with 59,589 miles on it. Rather than the standard 5-speed manual transmission it is equipped with Porsche’s 4-speed Sportomatic transmission, the first year the marque would offer their attempt at producing something like the clutchless manually-shiftable automatic transmissions so prevalent today. In that regard, while the Sportomatic eventually disappeared, and rarely was favored while it existed, it did serve as a prelude to what was to come. The Soft-window Targa is a different story: around for only a few years and quickly replaced with the hard window version with which we are all familiar. The ability to open the rear window while keeping the top in place provided extra versatility, but it became clear pretty quickly that most owners weren’t much interested in that versatility.

I have never come across a 911 that combined these two interesting pieces of Porsche engineering and I don’t suspect we will find many of them that do.

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Year: 1968
Model: 911 Targa
Engine: 2.0 liter flat-6
Transmission: 4-speed automatic
Mileage: 59,589 mi
Price: $129,000 Buy It Now

Up for sale, 1968 Porsche 911 Soft Window Targa sportomatic with matching numbers in its most desirable color tangerine.
The car has been restored and the restoration is documented.
New paint job, engine rebuilt, interior has been partially restored trying to keep the most original and unrestored parts like the 2 front seats.
Staright body, perfect new floor pans, The original 5-1/2” x 15” Fuchs have been polished and painted.
Rare 911 Soft window targa sportomatic, really low production and highly collectible.
Don’t miss the oportunity to own a piece of the Porsche History.

Comes with original books, service records, tool kit, jack and spare tires.

more information upon request.

Adding to the intrigue here, 1968 was the final year before Porsche extended the wheelbase of the 911 to provide it with better balance and cope with its rear-weight distribution. Naturally, that means ’68 was the only year a Sportomatic could be had on a short-wheelbase 911. And to further elevate our interest all of these quirks are covered in a wonderful Tangerine paint. The Targa robs us of a little of the Tangerine joy since the top is black, but this 911 looks great none the less.

So this is a very unique 911. It’s been partially restored (the interior is said to be mostly original) and looks in good shape, but we aren’t provided with anything in the way of documentation to verify the claims of originality nor any information on its history and provenance. Those will be key factors in determining whether this asking price is reachable. It’s priced at the very top of the market and beyond where we’ve typically seen any Sportomatic sell. I do wonder if all of these unique attributes will help elevate the car in the eyes of some collectors though. For someone interested in having a piece of Porsche engineering history this 911 makes for a nice option and certainly is one you could spend a lot of time looking over and talking about.

-Rob

1971 Porsche 911T Targa – Soft-window Conversion

I’ve featured a 911 Soft-window Targa plenty of times before, but this is the first example I can recall seeing where someone converted an original hard window to a soft window. I’m not sure whether this was a popular idea at the time – I’ve definitely heard of owners doing the reverse (converting a soft window to a hard window) – but regardless we have one here. The Soft-window Targa only was produced for a couple of years in the late ’60s. These were an homage to Porsche’s participation in the Targa Florio and perhaps the original owner of this Targa hoped to recreate some of that open-roofed essence with this conversion. It certainly provides a unique appearance, especially with the addition of the Cibie rally lights, and stands out well with its Pastel Blue paint. While not original, this 1971 Porsche 911T Targa should still be quite desirable.

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1969 Porsche 911E Soft-window Targa – 1 of 12

There are some colors that if you showed me the swatch for it I would never consider it on a car. Then when I actually see it on a car I’m blown away. This color, which I’m fairly sure is Lindgrün and they’ve called Golden Lime Green, fits that bill perfectly. This isn’t the first 911 I’ve seen in this color, but every one I’ve come across has blown me away even though the color itself I would never think I’d enjoy. It’s still probably not for everyone, but I really like it here. And there’s more to this 911E than just the color. It’s one of the rare Soft-window Targas built for the ’69 MY, making it one of the few to possess the longer wheelbase that Porsche introduced for the 911 in 1969. While Porsche had begun soft-window production in 1967 it quickly was replaced by the hard window with which we’re all very familiar. The design is pretty quirky and provides a number of variations of enjoying your open-top driving. By 1969 very few soft windows were being produced and it was now an option rather than a distinct model. This makes coming up with firm production numbers difficult. The seller states that this is 1 of 12 911E in this configuration, a number that appears in an article of Road & Track though I’m not exactly sure from where the number originally was sourced. I’ve seen other numbers quoted in auctions, but all are close to this so we can at least know it’s a rare machine.

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1968 Porsche 912 Soft-Window Targa

Here we have one of Porsche’s more interesting design ideas: the Soft-Window Targa. Most are quite familiar with its hard windowed cousin, which has been available on the 911 for most of its life. But far fewer may be familiar with the precursor to the 911 Targa. With the Soft-Window Targa Porsche sought an engineering solution that would allow for maximum openness in the cockpit while retaining a measure of structural integrity they thought would be necessary to meet impending safety regulations. Those safety regulations never became manifest, but their design did. It’s somewhat simple: use a fixed roll-hoop and make the top and window removable. The look is somewhat strange and the window section was quickly converted to a fixed window, but the soft window provided a great deal of versatility and choice for drivers depending on just how much of the external environment they wanted to experience. The Soft-Window Targa is quite rare on both the 911 and 912 and as such will command higher values, with the 911S being far and away the most expensive. The one we see here is from the earlier short-wheelbase model years as well: an Irish Green 1968 Porsche 912 Soft-Window Targa, located in California, with 113,000 miles on it. It should be noted, this 912 does not possess its original engine, but the rest of the car is said to be original.

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1969 Porsche 912 Soft-window Targa

Let’s check back in on my favorite quirky Porsche: the Soft-window Targa. As I’ve mentioned before, the Soft-window Targa was Porsche’s engineering solution to a problem they anticipated would occur, but never actually did. It’s sort of a window into the development process that even made it into production, if only for a short time. Because Porsche suspected that increasingly stringent safety regulations would render the cabriolet obsolete they sought to get out in front of these regulations and produce a model that would provide both the full open-cockpit feel of a convertible and also the safety of a fixed roll hoop. The Soft-window Targa was both an ingenious and somewhat ridiculous solution to that problem. I say ridiculous because to me these have never really looked right; they’ve always look like someone’s garage project, even if a well executed one. The idea did work, but Porsche quickly introduced the fixed hard-window version with which we are all familiar and the soft-window drifted off into the sunset. We do still see them from time to time and they are generally pretty popular with collectors due to their rarity and, I think, in part because of their interesting engineering. They certainly make for a fine talking piece. For whatever reason we’ve seen quite a few more examples of the 912 of late rather than the 911 and today is no different. Here we have a very pretty Irish Green 1969 Porsche 912 Soft-window Targa, located in California, with what appears to be 109,000 miles on it.

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1968 Porsche 912 Soft-window Targa

Porsche’s soft-window Targa is one of those engineering feats that is a mix of the sublime and the ridiculous. It is a brilliant solution to a problem that never really arose, but with its removable rear window and fixed roll hoop it looks…strange. I think Porsche’s engineers realized this as the design only existed for three model years, and during production of the Soft-window Targa a fixed hard window was an available option. Even so, with safety standards failing to render the convertible obsolete it would still take 15 years before Porsche actually produced a Cabriolet version of the 911 so in that regard the Soft-window Targa seems well ahead of its time. There is definitely a lot going on with these. Design aesthetics aside, its short production run for either the 911 or 912 makes the Soft-window Targa a rare and interesting commodity among vintage Porsches and one that surely attracts plenty of questions and gazes within any collection. They are a part of Porsche history and as such always warrant considerable attention. The example we have here is a Light Ivory 1968 Porsche 912 Soft-window Targa located in Ohio.

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1968 Porsche 911L Soft-window Targa Police Car

Here at GCFSB we pride ourselves on featuring many of the most interesting German vehicles available on the second-hand market. The particular car we see here, a 1968 Porsche 911L Soft-window Targa Police Car, surely is the most interesting car I will have featured to date. It won’t be the fastest, or even the prettiest, though it’s certainly the rarest (since we cannot get more rare than 1 of 1) and it’s definitely the most peculiar. This Targa Police car was given the full treatment: double rear-view mirrors, a red police light affixed to the Targa’s roll hoop, illuminated STOP signal in place of the rear license plate, along with the electronics to control those lights and the siren. The look was completed with Dutch-inspired Tangerine over White paint and German “Polizei” script along the doors, hood and rear deck lid. It is, quite frankly, one of the most curious 911s we’re likely to come across and that hardly even includes the fact that it is a ’68 911L Soft-window Targa, an already very rare and interesting 911 in itself. It’s fantastic!

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