Today and tomorrow I’ve got a couple cars to post that are quite a bit less pristine than what I typically like to feature. Both will need some work, but each provides a nice base with which to begin that work. And, more importantly, both are interesting enough that there should be a desire from some to return them to their full glory.
I’ll begin with this one: a Signal Orange 1970 Porsche 911T Targa, located in California, with 126,868 miles on it. This one is all about the color as it’s one of the best on an early 911. That it’s a 911T in need of work also should mean that the selling price falls very much on the reasonable side of the spectrum. At least, it should. Will it?
Update 12/24/2017 – The price of the Targa has dropped $10,000 to $89,995.
Believe it or not it’s been a few months since I featured a long-hood 911. I guess there haven’t been many lately to really grab my attention. So why not double up with two? Albert Blue is a really nice non-metallic blue that was available on these early 911s and as it happens there are two available right now, both from the same model year and same 911 model. But one is a Coupe and the other a Targa. So if you like the color, now you just have to pick your body style!
Let’s start with the Coupe: a 1970 Porsche 911T Coupe, located in Alabama, with 69,814 miles on it. It’s been fully restored, is numbers matching, and looks great.
Here we have another lovely rare-colored 911 that we so seldom come across. Truth be told, I strongly would have considered featuring this 911E even if its color was more common because it is such a nice overall example of these early Porsches. That it does wear such a rare color simply adds to the mystique and the allure. This is a Conda Green 1970 Porsche 911E Coupe, located in California, with black interior. The engine has been rebuilt and hasn’t covered too many miles since that work, but overall this 911 has seen plenty of miles (168K) and surely provided its owners immense joy over those years. To find such an interesting example that also has been well used in its life always makes us smile.
Engine: 2.0 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 168,800 mi
Price: $134,990 Buy It Now
1-Family Owned for 27-Years
SoCal Porsche from New
Rare and Great Original Color
ENG# 6201084 (911/01)
800 Miles on recent Top End Engine Rebuild
34,000 Miles on Full Engine Rebuild
68,800 Miles on Odometer (168,800 on chassis)
Conda Green (26) on Black Leatherette (11)
5-Speed Manual Transmission (901)
Clean and Clear California title
Straight and Dry Chassis
3-SoCal Owners from New
Original Sales Window Sticker and Maintenance Book
Porsche Certificate of Authenticity
Early S Registry and R Gruppe Member Owned
This 911E was built in December of 1969 and sold new by Estes Zipper Porsche/Audi of Beverly Hills, California on February 18th, 1970. The first owner was a well-recognized music composer of film and radio scores. He kept the car until he passed away in 1989 after sadly loosing his battle with cancer.
Last week I checked out at a 1972 Mercedes-Benz 600 that looked to be cared for by a wealthy stable owner in north Alabama. Today, we have another W100 to examine, but this one has quite a bit more history to sort through. This 1970 600 for sale in Portland, Oregon isn’t the normal standard wheelbase sedan you are used to seeing but rather it’s the rare Pullman version, which is one of 423 ever produced. Of course, those who ordered these cars usually weren’t your normal private citizens. So who was the original owner of this rolling symbol of power?
Model: 600 Pullman
Engine: 6.3 liter V8
Transmission: 4-speed automatic
Mileage: 35,000 km (21,747 mi)
1970 Mercedes 600 Pullman
Ordered new by King Idris of Libya the same year he was overthrown by Muammar Gaddafi
Award winning restoration (fully documented)
All mechanicals are new or rebuilt
35,000 km’s (300 km since restoration)
Factory 040G black with bamboo leather
Complete set of factory spares kits and tool pouch
Price: $395,000 firm
The owner of this awesome 600 was King Idris of Libya who according to the build sheet, didn’t have possession of the car for too long. This Pullman was built in July of 1969 but unfortunately Idris was deposed a few months later in a coup d’etat by army officers led by a guy you might have heard of named Muammar Gaddafi. I’ve tracked down a photo of Idris getting out of the car attached below and even more amazingly, the Associated Press actually has video footage of Idris in Turkey on September 2nd, 1969 with the car that can be viewed here. That same day is when Libyan Army officers took control of the country.…
“Hey, nice Corvair!” , they’ll shout out the window at you, “What, did you leave it in the drier too long?”
Most people I know seem to view me as some sort of idiot-savant, casually remembering which wheel styles were associated with what model, what colors various cars came in, engine specifications and call numbers – you get the point. But I have to admit to a huge gap in my automotive knowledge. Perhaps it’s a willful ignorance, but I’ll be damned if every single American car from the 1950s basically looks the same to me. I’ll take ‘Generically shaped cars for $1,000, Alex!’:
“What is Hudson!” (beeeeeep)
“What is a Studebaker?” (beeeeeep)
“Uh, what is Nash?” (beeeeeep)
Sure, like the rest of America who grew up before the year 1990, I can ID a 55 Chevy at a distance thanks to Don McLean’s insistence that you weren’t American if you couldn’t, but otherwise there’s this huge void of massive steel shapes that mean little to me.
What’s interesting is that I can so easily identify the differences between the Volkswagen 1500, the BMW 700, and the NSU Prinz. All were rear-engine, three-box sedans that were built at the same time. They all have a very, very similar shape. And yet, to me they’re as different as….well, a BMW and Volkswagen can be. NSUs are rare as the proverbial tooth of a hen here in the U.S., so is this forlorn 1200 worth a roll of the dice?
We come across a wide range of descriptions when looking at ads for cars. Some are so short and vague as to be meaningless. Many follow a stereotypical salesman approach making bold hyperbolic claims about every positive aspect of the car while brushing aside the negatives. And others can be so wordy that the useful details get lost among a sea of model history (i.e. not the car’s history) narrative and general information that might apply to almost every example. There is another type; a better type. This ad is of that sort. It isn’t long, but the details are there. It answers many of the obvious questions and describes the car faithfully. That the seller works the pictures into the narrative actually helps as you can see what is being described. To a certain degree (and this probably is why I like the ad) it provides a lot of the information I would provide when featuring the car here. So read it!
Engine: 2.2 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 75,550 mi
Price: Reserve Auction
For those of us who have to work for a living, affording the acquisition of a longhood 911 “F-Modell” has become quite a stretch. Especially the 2.2 and 2.4-liter cars of the 1970 to 1973 vintage seem to fit either one of two categories: they are either way too expensive, or rusted hulks in need of e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g.
Every once in a blue moon do we find a car that is still sensibly priced. It may not be a show winner, but it will have good bones and usually can be enjoyed for years to come just the way it is, thus allowing small improvements at one’s own pace, as time and funds allow.
The W114 and W115 is looked at as the generation that came before the legendary W123 came along and cemented itself as one of the best vehicles ever produced. It’s not that the Stroke 8 are bad or anything, it’s just a tough comparison head to head against the W123. If anything, the W114/115 should be lauded as those cars featured the OM616 and non-turbocharged OM617 before being carried over into the new W123 chassis. Now that the newest W115 is 41 years old, a really nice one is hard to come by given they were used for all they had to give then tossed away due to their lack of collectibility. So when this 1970 220D for sale in Florida popped up, I had to take a closer look.
Engine: 2.2 inline-4
Transmission: 4-speed automatic
Mileage: 95,337 mi
Price: Buy It Now $8,900
Runs and drive very good no rust well maintained super clean – – – kept garage and covered
– 4 new tires
– new door seals
– new drive mirror glass
– new pillar seals
– new trunk seal
– new cv axle boot left and right
– new diesel filter
– 4 new brake hose
– new front brake pads
– new injection pump membrane diaphragm
– turn signails,break lights, headlights, high beams works without problems
recent oil change transmission oil change
title in hands
any question you can send a message
I can’t believe how great this car looks for 95,000 miles. The exterior shows fairly well but the interior and engine bay are nearly flawless. Either this car underwent a light restoration or the owner was fanatical about keeping it in perfect condition. Usually these cars are used as workhorses and don’t get pampered but this one is on another level.…
This 911 was always bound to attract my attention. It’s a Targa covered in a vibrant shade of blue and it looks in very nice shape; points that immediately serve in its favor for me. It’s also a 911E, which I’ve always liked as a middle ground between the entry-level T and the very sought after 911S. Step inside and what looks like a fairly basic interior suddenly makes me pause. First, this is probably the ugliest steering wheel I’ve ever seen. No big deal really; throw a Prototipo on (or find a period-correct wheel if originality is your concern) and move along. Then I notice there’s no radio. The ad makes no mention of a radio delete. We aren’t presented with the CoA so that doesn’t help. Now I’m intrigued and want to know more. Is this just a matter of a restorer deciding to remove the radio or is there something more to this 911E?
Model: 911E Targa
Engine: 2.2 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 36,646 mi
Price: $119,995 Buy It Now
This is the vintage exotic so many of us long for. A 1970 Porsche 911E Targa offers many of the delicate design touches of the first-generation 911, and then adds power to the package. So when it’s presented in an interesting and correct factory color, this is an open top dream car.
The 911’s shape is legendary, and that’s why there is so much appreciation for a car like this. The narrower bodies, tidy proportions, and elegant simplicity showcase the iconic shape in its purest form. Porsches have always been high-quality machines, and this one continues that tradition today with doors that open and close effortlessly and exacting panel gaps.
BMW’s revolution and rebranding through racing started on March 25, 1973. At the Monza 4 hours race in the European Touring Car Championship, the “CSL” legend was born. Massive box flares, huge BBS magnesium race wheels and deep front spoilers adorned the delicate E9 coupe now, and the iconic German Racing White with blue and red stripes following the lines of the hood and sides of the car. And with drivers like Hans-Joachim Stuck, Chris Amon, and Dieter Quester BMW Motorsport would go on to win many races and establish the brand that would later launch the infamous “Batmobile” CSL, the 2002 Turbo, and of course the M brand. Prior to 1973, the top flight races were run by BMW through their partners Alpina and Schnitzer, and indeed the BMW Motorsport entrants at Monza failed to finish, with Niki Lauda at the hands of an Alpina E9. A few races later, the rear wing was introduced by BMW Motorsport, and in the hands of Dieter Quester the first BMW Motorsport win was recognized at the 24 Hours of Spa on July 22, 1973.
The 3.0 and later 3.5 CSLs would continue to race and win for a few years, establishing the brand as a serious contender to the established Porsche in the sporting market. Because of this, there were not only many in-period conversions to CSL race cars, but many replicas built since. This appears to be one of the latter – originally, a 2800CS which has been converted to look like the Group 2 racers with a period motor:
I am very intrigued by this 911. The whole of it: the color is one of my favorites. Why is the mileage so incredibly low? And what will it sell for given that it’s a Sportomatic? There’s just a lot going on here and a lot for us to attend to.
So what do we have? A Signal Orange 1970 Porsche 911E Coupe with the 4-speed Sportomatic transmission and a reported 12,881 original miles. We aren’t told whether the paint and interior are also completely original so that might be question 1. After which documentation of the mileage will be paramount. From there we can begin to think about value. But, first, just look at it. It’s so beautiful!