I’m always interested in finding M491-equipped Carreras. They’re very cool cars that are pretty rare and tend to be sought out by both collectors and drivers. That tends to make them a little more expensive than your standard Carrera, but their fans find the extra cost worthwhile. When priced correctly (usually in the 60Ks and 70Ks) they can sell pretty quickly. Above that requires certain additional levels of rarity, typically PTS or one of the very rare G50 models from the last couple production years.
One thing I don’t see too often is modified examples and that brings me to the one we see here: a Guards Red 1984 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe, located in Tennessee, with 90,754 miles on it and, of course, that all important Turbo-look package. It looks very good and I really like the ducktail spoiler as a replacement for the Turbo’s tea tray. It’s a little more subtle, but still provides a more aggressive look. Other than some pop-out rear windows (love them!) hearkening back to the early 911s, the rest of the modifications are under the skin, but should enhance most areas of this Carrera’s performance. Where will they leave this already pretty desirable model?
I’m going to have a lot of questions about this 1992 Porsche 911 Turbo, but I’ll start with the one that struck me immediately and isn’t necessarily related to this particular Turbo. Are we now at a point where the 3.3-liter 964 Turbo is a $200K car? Assuming we’re not talking about some ultra-rare sub-5K mile example, of course. I’m really not sure we’re there yet, but this one seems set on trying to get us there. I will say, I have been seeing a lot more high prices among 964s in general so I’m beginning to wonder if that market is shifting upward for some reason. I have in many cases offered these Turbos as a relatively inexpensive alternative to the collector-sought 1989 930, but if prices are moving up then that idea may no longer work.
As for this one: it’s certainly a very good looking example and appears to be in very good condition. I think the exterior is Tahoe Blue Metallic, a relatively uncommon blue that Porsche offered in the early ’90s. We’ve seen it before, but not quite with this contrast in the interior. It’s certainly a rare example, but enough so to command this sort of price?
I’ve had my eye on the 911 GT2 a lot lately. Mostly that’s because we’re seeing the GT2 RS hit our shores. There are a lot of those for sale and you probably shouldn’t buy one. With very few exceptions, they’re all kind of the same too. As I was looking at those and their insane prices I came across this 2008 Porsche 911 GT2 with 18,511 miles on it and an asking price less than half what sellers are asking for the current GT2 RS. Don’t get me wrong – the GT2 RS is the better car. It has 700 hp, all kinds of crazy aero, a boatload of lightweight materials, and plenty of tech to help you get around a track as quickly as possible. It laps the Nürburgring around 45 seconds faster than the GT2 we see here. That is not an insignificant difference and the sort of thing we probably should expect with a full decade of continued development under its wings.
But I look at this GT2 and realize that it’s a much better looking car. It has a manual transmission. With 523 hp on tap it isn’t exactly suffering for power and with that power being channeled entirely to the rear wheels the driving experience surely will hold your attention and be plenty exhilarating. It’s a phenomenal car that very few are capable of fully exploiting and I wonder if maybe I’m spending too much time looking at the wrong thing.
I’ve been looking for a 997.2 to post for a while. Though in truth I didn’t really find what I was looking for. I’ve had my eye out for a Turbo with a manual transmission, a search which has proved more difficult than I thought it’d be. But this, a Turbo S in Signal Green, certainly serves as a worthwhile substitute. Since the Turbo S wasn’t available with a manual transmission anyway, then I guess I can’t quibble over it possessing PDK.
530 hp delivered through a 7-speed dual-clutch transmission in the most luxurious package Porsche can offer certainly will turn heads. When you drape that kind of machine in one of Porsche’s iconic colors, then now you have looks to go with that performance. This one isn’t entirely original and is said to be putting out an additional 90 hp over the already significant power it offered out of the box. It’s also said to be only 1 of 2 to exist.
I think this 1997 Porsche 911 Turbo comes under the heading of “never judge a book by its cover” because while it’s a very lovely car from the outside it is really all about the interior. That’s the part of this one that will have appeal relative to all of the other 993TTs on the market. It’s quite clearly special order. I’ll also be quite upfront and state that I don’t like the way it has all come together. However, I’m very happy that it exists. It shows us the type of things that Porsche has made possible over the years for its more intrepid customers so even if it isn’t what I would do it might give you some ideas. I also think it’s only a couple minor tweaks from looking quite good. Let’s take a look:
Recently I looked at the Porsche 924S. For $5,000, it was a ridiculous deal. A decent chunk of 924s appear in good shape from loving homes and that particular 924S looked no different. Lower miles and Euro bumpers only added to its appeal. But not all 924s are created alike. The early Turbo model has been on the rise in value as collectors have begun the hunt for the next deal. That means there’s been speculation among asks on the 931, and prices are all over the market. In January I looked at a solid 1980 that sold for just over $4,000, while a later ’82 I looked at last year sold at nearly triple that amount.
Today we get to see both ends of the spectrum from this duo of ’81 and ’82 931s. And there is more that is interesting beside just the asking prices:
I am going to assume this car has made the rounds over the past couple months, but this was the first time I came across it so for me it’s new. This again falls into the category of cars I like quite a bit, but the asking price doesn’t make sense. In this case, I think this is one of the better examples of this particular breed of 911, i.e. a backdated Carrera drawing inspiration from the 1973 Carrera RS and RSR, that I’m sure will turn heads anywhere it goes.
While they weren’t the first to do it Singer brought these builds into wider recognition with their bespoke “reimagined” 911 combining modern performance with vintage long-hood 911 aesthetics. They’re highly sought after packages and can be very expensive. From those who have seen and driven them they are works of art with performance to match. James May referred to them as a love letter to a car – taking all of the best aspects of the 911 and combining them into a single machine. Over the years it has seemed like others have hoped to emulate the Singer model, but few really compare.
This, of course, isn’t a Singer. Rather than the 964 off which a Singer is based, this 911 began its life as a Silver 1978 Porsche 911SC Coupe. Fully stripped and disassembled the entire car was refreshed and rebuilt. It now possesses a slightly more modern 3.2 liter flat-6 from the 3.2 Carrera, the wider rear of the 930, and the impact bumpers are gone. It looks great! Power should be increased over the standard Carrera, though we aren’t told what exactly it’s putting out right now. So you get great looks and better performance. How much is all of that worth?
This is kind of similar to yesterday’s 911 I featured. It’s a totally different model obviously, but comes in a very similar color palette – including the somewhat frustrating monochromatic combination – and has low miles. Even lower miles in fact. So if those colors are your thing, but you’d rather have the classic 911 design rather than those of the more modernized 964 this could be worth a look. I don’t think it’s price will be quite as insane either, though we never can tell with any very-low-mileage 911. The premiums sought can be insane.
So what do we have here? A Ruby Red Metallic 1984 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe with Burgundy leather interior and just 25,440 miles on it. 1984 served as our introduction to the 3.2 Carrera as the replacement for the 911SC. Changes were somewhat limited, especially in this first model year when the interior seating was carried over from the SC, but you did get a small bump in displacement and corresponding bump in power. As we’ve discussed a few times on our pages, your choice of 911SC or 3.2 Carrera comes down somewhat to preference between the two models, but mostly should come down to finding the best available condition in either model. Both are great; both offer stout reliability in a classic 911 package.
I never really know if I should post cars like these. The car itself I like a lot. It’s an Amethyst Metallic 1993 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe with matching interior and 40,500 miles on it. A low mileage, rare color, rear drive 964 is something I’m always on the lookout for. It’s got a few modifications – center exit exhaust from a 997 GT3, new headers, bronze/gold painted Cup wheels, upgraded suspension, and a couple other minor items – though the seller says most of the original parts come with the car. Overall it looks great. Not everyone will care for the choice in wheel color, but I think they contrast nicely with the Amethyst exterior. Regardless, wheels are easily changed.
That said, unless I’m missing something the price seems so out of line with the market that I’m not sure any serious buyer really will give it much consideration. Maybe the market changed while I wasn’t looking or maybe the seller has seen a few RoW cars with similar asking prices and figured this one should garner similar attention. I don’t know. Obviously, we can see where I landed on the decision of whether to post. I like this 911 enough and see them rarely enough that I thought it worth a closer look. But I’m not sure where we go after that.
Update 9/26/18: This 928 S4 sold for $15,211.11
In a recent post of a 928 GTS there was a comment wondering about their pricing relative to that of one of its not-too-distant predecessors the 928 S4. It’s a good question to ask if you’re looking at the 928 in general as the value of a GTS is significantly higher than any other 928 out there. Heck, the GTS has shown higher values than even a few of the turbocharged 911s from similar periods. Before considering one you do need to know what you’re getting into.
Why the GTS is so much more expensive is pretty straightforward: they’re quite rare and they are the last of the 928s. They also are arguably the best looking 928, though I’m not sure that really has a huge impact on value. For the buyer thinking about an investment and long-term value a GTS probably is the way to go, assuming you can afford that initial cost of entry. However, if you want to drive and enjoy a 928, or simply don’t have $100K to spend on a ’90s Porsche, then one of the earlier models provides nearly as much performance for far fewer dollars.
Case in point: this 1988 Porsche 928 S4, located in New Mexico, with 117,456 miles and the desirable 5-speed manual transmission. Unlike just about every 928 GTS this S4 is up for auction with no reserve and bidding sits at only $8,100. That’s a much easier pill to swallow.