1978 Mercedes-Benz 450SE (350SE) 4-speed manual

The W116 is perhaps one of the most forgotten Mercedes-Benz S class generations, but even this staid sedan had a few interesting versions. We are all familiar with the beast that is the 6.9, but here is an interesting version with what looks to be a 4.5 V8 and a 4 speed manual. Also included are a few tasteful modifications.

EDITOR’S NOTE: Paul who found this beauty and wrote the post, like the seller and the original importer has been duped. This car is not as the seller states a 450SE, but likely a much more significant Euro market 350SE. It could be the importer called this a 450SE to help ease the importation. A 450SE with a manual was almost unheard of. This car shows its Euro heritage with the Euro bumpers and headlights and also has only had the speedometer converted, the other gauges in the instrument cluster and the climate controls remain the original Euro, German language ones. The VIN number indicates a 350SE. Without seeing the actual engine data plate it is easy to confuse the two models, particularly this one which seems to have an air cleaner like the 4.5, earlier 3.5 engines had a smaller, circular, air cleaner with the intake on the passenger side. The 3.5 liter V8 was marked as a M116 engine in the W116 chassis. The 4.5 liter V8 was marked as the M117 engine in the W116 chassis. Many consider the smaller 3.5 V8 to be the better engine. It was a marvelous piece, very high revving and nimble. Couple that engine with a manual transmission and the short bodied 116 chassis car and this must be quite a fun ride. I would get rid of that particular set of aftermarket rims. Replacing the stock 14″ items with 16″ or bigger is a good idea, but there are much nicer looking rims for classic Mercs. A set of expensive AMG Ronal 5 spokes would complete the authentic AMG look. This is a great find and likely to only be appreciated by those in the know so look for a possible bargain here if it doesn’t attract too much attention. Though the price already is that of what a similar mileage 450SEL can be had for.
~Evan
Back to Paul’s comments:

The seller states:

Hey everyone up for sale we have a mint condition 1978 450SE Euro model with 81k original miles and a manual 4 speed transmission. Not sure if it is a 3.5 or a 4.5 (Bureau of Automotive Repair says 4.5) I am the second owner of this beautiful car, The first owner was an elderly man that drove it seldomly and kept it garaged under a car cover most of its life. It runs great, engine runs very smooth and powerful, absolutely no leaks whatsoever, Shifts perfect, clutch feels like new, temperature is always steady at 80C. The two front windows are electrically powered while the two rear windows are manual (set up available for euro models only). It has Michelin Pilot tires with 85% tread left and an almost perfect interior as you can tell by the photos. The only minor defects are: a slight vibration at 55-60mph and the AC needs to be recharged. I have a clean California title thats ready to be handed over to the winning bidder.

Values of W116 S classes have been notoriously low for Mercedes-Benzes in recent history, except for that of the 6.9. There are 14 bids on this already as I write this with two days left in the auction, so we’ll see if the reserve is met and where the value goes.

-Paul

1994 Mercedes-Benz E500, 45k miles

Before AMG became fully integrated into the Mercedes-Benz family, along came the W124 chassis 500E/E500. While relatively tame looking, the trained eye will notice the larger 16″ alloy wheels and flared fenders. That’s just a prelude to the collaboration between Porsche and Mercedes that yielded perhaps one of the best sport sedans ever.

1994 Mercedes-Benz E500 on eBay

The seller’s description:

This is a 1994 Mercedes 500E with 45296 original miles. This car is in excellent condition inside and out. Car comes with the original manuals and service booklet with dealer stamps, and original window sticker (see photo). This is a rare and interesting car, a joint venture between Mercedes and Porsche, Porsche did the suspension work, has yielded one of the greatest Mercedes’ of all time.

My father owned a 1992 400E and while he owned it, I happened to drive a 1992 500E that was for sale. The difference was astounding. To say this car had God’s own suspension would be an understatement. I’m not sure how Porsche tuned it to be comfortable yet so controlled simultaneously.

As far as Mercedes-Benz sedans go, their resale values tend to lag behind coupes and convertibles. The asking price of $29,000 is certainly strong, but right in line with the condition and mileage. Plus, this is the desirable facelift version which was the last year the 500E/E500 was sold in the US. While I’ve seen some ultra low mileage examples listed in the $30k and up range, $29 large is about all you’d want to spend, in my opinion, for one of Mercedes’/Porsche’s finest.

-Paul

1983 Mercedes-Benz 300CD

The W123 is quite possibly the most ubiquitous Mercedes-Benz of all time. Revered for it’s build quality and rock solid reliability, both clean and clapped out examples are still a regular site on roads all over the world to this day. Slightly more rare than its sedan counterpart, the coupe, or CD/CE brought the classic MB pillarless coupe style to the workhorse chassis. This particular example, a later turbodiesel variant, has seen just over 90,000 miles. One could consider this slightly broken in.

The seller states:

This is a rare 1983 Mercedes 300CD Turbo coupe. It runs and drives awesome. This is a rust free car. It has 91,371 miles on it. The car is in very nice shape. The A/C blows cold. This car will go a million miles.

After scanning other ads online and pricing guides, it seems as if the value of W123 CDs are topping out around $10,000. If this car had about 50,000 less miles on it, it might be worth it, but unless this car has impeccable service history, it’s a bit overpriced. Nevertheless, a fine example of the W123 coupe in a pleasant color combination.

-Paul

1967 Mercedes-Benz 250SL with ZF 5-speed

Besides the original 300SL gullwing and roadster, the Pagoda SLs that succeeded them have always commanded top dollar. The 250SL represents the mid point in the evolution of the W113, which ran from 1963 through 1971. While this generation represented a shift towards more of a boulevard cruiser, you could still order your SL with a manual transmission. This particular example has the rare ZF 5-speed. Given that only 1,791 examples of the 250SL made it to the US, this is a rare piece indeed.

Yes it is a factory 5 speed ZF manual transmission, one of only 882 Pagodas with the special Mercedes ZF 5 spd built only for the SL models. And it is pristine! It is stunning and beautiful and runs like a Swiss clock. I can go into any detail you like as far as the condition but it is easier to assume it is exactly how the pictures depict it to be without any rust at all.

Chrome, paint, wood, interior, original hubcaps and beauty rims, mechanical condition all is in excellent condition. It is restored where it needed to be and has original carpet and seats and dash (still in excellent condition). It is a low mileage car with a clear CA title. The dash was never taken apart or repainted. New tires. Soft top is brand new too (didn’t have help removing hard top but all is perfect and of the highest quality correct German top).

By the way all the chrome is original except the back bumpers have been rechromed. The tail lights, grill, door trim and interior chrome trim is all original excellent condition, as new. It has been unbelievably well taken care of. I have a new trunk mat but wanted to show original mat. Underneath is perfect, no surface rust either. Well detailed car throughout. No excuses and show worthy. I am the third owner and don’t know the first but the second owner had it since the seventies.

While $55,000 seems steep for a 43 year old machine, it’s right in line with current W113 pricing. This is perhaps one of the most sought after generations of SL, especially with the 5-speed gearbox. I have to say, this is one of those cars I would pick if someone told me “you can drive one car for the rest of your life.” These roadsters are completely usable as everyday classics and the extra gear makes this a tasty proposition for highway cruising.

-Paul

Is this for real? 145 mile Mercedes 190E 2.5-16v Evolution II

You know I’m not a fan of the low mile garage queens that don’t ever get used for fear of wrecking their investment value. That is what we have here though.
How you could possibly have a genuine Mercedes Evo II parked in your garage and not ever drive it is just beyond me.
I’m a bit skeptical of this add, the pictures aren’t great and neither is the info in the advertisement. With a weak ad like this the seller is likely to attract tire kickers. What we can gather from the ad is that apparently this seller has this #422 of 502 ever built Benz tucked away in Swansea UK, where it has been parked since it was new. It has never been registered for road use. The seller mentions that as the second owner he only recently had the pre-delivery inspection completed when he had some of the belts and fluids replaced.
The Evo-II is one of the gems of the Mercedes fan. That incredibly rare, unobtainable pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, that everyone dreamed about. At a cost new in 1990 of $80,000 I guess the $150,000 current ask price shows the car has appreciated. The AMG and Cosworth worked over 2.5 liter 4 cylinder 16 valve engine is good for 232 horsepower. The car came with an amazing body kit with air dams, fender flares, and an outrageous rear wing that most will never believe is factory and that boy racer types probably think is great. The car also comes with the now iconic and oft reproduced 17″ Evo-II rims.
This is an amazing car with world beater race heritage, taking it to BMW in the DTM series. You rarely see a genuine one of these on the market. It is the type of historic car you would expect someone like Jay Leno to purchase for their collection. It is an awful lot of money to spend on a car that you won’t drive because of the low mileage. Maybe we’ll see it for sale in a few years with several thousand miles on the clock.

~Evan

High Mileage 1992 Mercedes 500E No reserve sale

200,000 mile 500E for sale with no reserve and an opening bid of $7,950. I’m a bit up in the air on this one, good deal or not? The price is far from the $40k you might pay for a super fine 500E. With Benz and Porsche engineering if the was well maintained the mileage shouldn’t be too scary right? The car looks almost completely stock other than the new radio and 18″ AMG wheels. It has apparently been serviced regularly by an authorized dealer. I am unclear as to what the seller means by saying the car was “used as real estate closing tool.”
The seller gives a list of recent maintenance items and fixes:

# Upper & Lower timing chain and rail replacement
# Full replacement transmission
# New air compressor
# New power steering box & pump
# Suspension and rubber mounts renewed
# New valve cover gaskets
# Recent Transmission Seals, (Trans. was pulled) – there are no oil or fluid leaks.
# New radiator
# New windshield wiper reservoir
# New front tires.
# Regular oil & filter changes
# Clean leather interior, wood is all nice.
# Newer Kenwood radio.

What do you folks think about this one? It looks pretty clean. I can’t imagine prices for a 500E will drop much lower than this even with high mileage.

~Evan

1987 Mercedes-Benz 300E AMG Hammer 6.0

While AMG is a household name these days, it wasn’t until the 1995 C36 that the tuner was truly integrated into the US market business model. Before the C36 arrived, AMG had focused on building a few special W124 models with breathed on versions of the 5.6 liter V8 from S classes of the day. These tuned engines featured 32 valve cylinder heads with twin camshafts. These powerplants could crank out in excess of 360 DIN hp in Europe, while figures were slightly less for US bound models due to emission regulations. Here we have a very low mileage example of the Hammer:

The seller states:

I am listing My 1987 Mercedes Benz 300E Real AMG Hammer. This is the 6.0 Litre four cam hand built motor that helped put AMG on the map in the United States. This car is a US spec car that was sold new To Mr. Stuart Haim in 1987 from Beverly Hills Motoring Accessories for the sum of $187,000.00. It is finished in its original color and is original paint in better than new condition always garaged under a cover. I Have owned this car for 14 years with no problems it has always ran excellent. All services have been up too date, the Ac has been serviced, A period correct upgraded sound system and Mitsubishi 800 cell phone is still in the optional cell phone arm rest and the transporter to make the phone mobile in the trunk, it will not work on any cell services but is still cool.

The car has the Full AMG body kit, 17 Inch Mono Bloc wheels, I have two sets one in chrome and one that is currently on the car that has Black powder coated centers. Full AMG exhaust system with AMG headers, All AMG suspension to accommodate the heavier 8 Cyl motor, upgraded brakes, Stiffened sub frame, rebuilt and stronger transmission with 1st gear start. The car rated at aprox 385 HP. 0-60 in 5 sec and a top speed of 187MPH. AMG Speedo cluster in grey, and burl wood shifter.

The interior is like new, the leather is faded, dyed, or dry, the dash is perfect, no one ever sat in the rear seats, all rubber trim is still soft and not dried out. I sold my other two Hammers at Barret-Jackson in January and think this is the best of the three cars, it has 20,000 miles on it, I have a clean California title there are no issues the car is currently registered and insured.

$55,000 is steep for any car over 20 years old. However, the condition of this vehicle and the significance of it being a vehicle that would lead the way toward more performance oriented Mercedes-Benzes in the future could very well find it a new owner in the near future. One definitely has some decisions to make at this price range, as this car’s contemporary, the C63 AMG, is not too far off from this price point.

-Paul

1997 Mercedes SL74 Renntech Monster 17k miles

While Mercedes and its associated high end tuners went through a stage recently of getting huge horsepower numbers from supercharged and turbo cars, there is something to be said for pure normally aspirated big block power. This Renntech modified SL74 epitomizes that philosophy. The stock 6.0 liter 48 valve V-12 engine has been bumped out to 452 cubic inches and is generating 575 horsepower and 600 lb. ft. of torque. The power is mated to a five speed automatic that has been beefed up to handle the power. Worked over intake, uprated suspension and cooling systems, 14″ Alcon brakes, 18” OZ Racing wheels( 18” x 11.5” out back), and AMG bodyparts. Plus you get all the luxury interior components you would expect from a top of the line Benz of that era. The seller says he whole package cost $90,000 from Renntech when it was new.
All that huge no lag power must be an real blast. The car is hardly broken in with only 17,000 miles. The car looks like it came from Canada since I see Manitoba plates in one of the photos. For $79,000 you can go pick this car up in Dallas Texas and have a fun comfortable ride home anywhere in the country.
Lots more pictures and description from the seller are on his site.

1997 Mercedes SL74 for sale on private site

Also on Dallas Craigslist

~Evan

1987 Mercedes 190E 2.3-16 Valve

Another Mercedes Cosworth special is up for sale. This black one has 79,089 miles and looks good.
This one has all original body panels and paint, but also has a lot of aftermarket additions. The seller also says they have all the original parts that were removed to make the performance updates possible.
Some of the upgrades to note are the Remus exhaust and the H&R suspension setup. Also some cosmetic upgrades to spruce up the look. The seller includes a ton of photos and a video of his car.
The dog leg shifter shows the signs of lots of fun use it surley is a blast to row through the gears on this car. As the seller notes it is too bad about the cupholders being drilled into the doors, but that is not really a huge deal. The seller clearly shows all the little scuffs and dings, which aren’t major at all. It is very satisfying to see such a complete honest advertisement that appears to leave no stone uncovered. It would be nice to try and get a set of fog lights that fit a little more flush than the ones that have been added, but again if these are the only two things detrimental to the car then a new buyer will be thrilled. You can see that the hood insulation has been pulled off. It is not uncommon on Benzs for that stuff to degrade and get pulled. It actually can make the engine run cooler with it gone. The hood could use some high temp matte black paint on the underside to clean it up. With the 190E hood being able to open 90 degrees it should be no problem to paint without having to remove.
I suspect the reserve is quite high for this auction it will be interesting to see how the pricing compares to a similar era BMW E30 M3. These are great cars and this one looks to be a well represented driver.

~Evan

1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SE 4.5

There’s been a surprising lack of W108/W109 S class Mercedes-Benzes on this site lately, so I decided to search for a clean, affordable example. The car we see here, a short wheelbase W108 is an interesting mix of the classic and modern. Classic in the vehicle’s appearance and modern in what’s under the hood. The 4.5 signified the arrival of the new M117 SOHC V8 that would go on to power a generation of S and SL models. Offered only in the USA, as opposed the 3.5 liter, M116 version.

While prices of the coupes and cabriolets have skyrocketed, sedans have stayed reasonable. Clean, unmolested examples are plentiful for under $15,000. Here is a nice one located up in Massachusetts:

The 280 is a magnificent looking car. This example of the 280 SE is in very good condition having been cared for over the years. The big 4.5 Liter V8 engine has hardly seen much action having run an average 2-3K miles per year since being put into service. This car with 78,000 original miles will put a smile on your face as soon as you sit in it. Runs perfectly, needs some minor cosmetic fixes and the AC needs to be charged or converted.

If I had the space, I’d love to have one of these old S classes in my stable. I remember being at a Mercedes-Benz club meet at MB Headquarters in New Jersey and a guy from Maine had an impeccable 1967 250S sedan with a four speed manual on the floor in a stunning non-metallic gray with red interior. I would have given anything just to take it out for a test drive. It brings back memories of my grandfather’s 1971 280SE and my dad’s 1967 230S fintail. These are timeless cars that are amazingly modern and are the epitome of the “practical classic” genre.

-Paul