A few nice custom 930 Porsches, sublime or ridiculous

****UPDATE**** 9/14/09
It was brought to our attention by a reader that the yellow widebody Porsche listed below has some discrepancies with VIN #s and seller legitimacy. If you see this Porsche listed proceed with care.

There is something about a 930 Porsche that just feels right. Nice proportions, fine performance, and fewer/simpler electronic gizmos than more modern 911s. They have that great Porsche sound. Really a work horse and driver’s car for the 80s Porsche enthusiast. I put 930 Porsche’s in that category of car that offers a pure driving experience in a package that begs to get out on the road rain or shine. Not quite the same as the new GT3 your neighbor owns that will never see its true potential as it only gets out of the garage on the trip to the golf course and even then only on cloudless days.

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Prices seem very solid and stable for good 930s. This shows positively on how collectors view these models. $15k should get you an almost daily driver worthy Porsche, that you can enjoy most of the year (year round down south), and that you could probably sell in a few years for what you paid. The $25k ask for this Gemballa in need of work seems a bit high, particularly when for a tick over $20k and a Strosek bodied 1986 sold at $20k. 1977 Porsche 930 slantnose1986 Porsche 930 Strosek

eBay is notorious for making it hard to sell damaged cars for decent prices. An auction format is supposed to show true market value, but I rarely see auctions for damaged cars like this, that have a seller’s reserve actually complete successfully. On the other hand someone else is out there asking .

1985 Porsche 930 Turbo Widebody

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Along the lines of the Flachbau or slantnose, you have to admire a car company that offered the option to the customer to completely alter the appearance of their car straight from the factory. This one with a widebody kit is bid up to $15k and it sure is wide. I hope the spindles are strong enough to take such a wide stance, with 50k on the clock I’d say things are ok. From the seller:

1985 PORSCHE TURBO 935 GAMBELLA [sic] SLANT NOSE , CARBON FIBER WING, KINISES WHEELS, MICHELIN PILOTS, KOKELN TURBO, KOKELN INTERCOOLER, 500 HP, CUSTOM YELLOW INTERIOR, THE WIDEST , COOLEST , TURBO I’VE EVER SEEN, FAST!! SHOW WINNER!!

Do you have other examples of German models that offered such dramatic bodystyle changes as factory options? BMW should have provided an option to de-Bangleify the E65 7 series.

1978 Porsche Kremer Turbo 3.5L

1978 Porsche 930 Turbo

And finally at the uber high end of the spectrum is this listing at $99,500 from Windsor Specialty Auto Sales in California. The car is also listed in Hemmings. From the seller:

This 1978 Porsche Turbo started as an early 3.3L, made its way to DP Motorsports where it received a body, and to Kremer for some minor modifications and badging. Because this is an early car, it
is likely to be one of the first to get the Kremer/DP Motorsports “treatment”. The car has extensive modifications (see below) by S-Car-Racing that raise output to about 550 HP. It is being
offered as a track or show car.

The seller states they will ad more photos, I hope they do, I’d love to peek at the engine. I’m sure photos can be furnished for you serious buyers out there.

~Evan

1990 Porsche 964 For Sale in Santa Rosa

Oh how I love the 964 series Porsche 911’s! Here is a great looking example with only 88k miles on the clock and an asking of only $17800 on Craigslist:

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quote from seller’s listing:

This is a very solid 911 with only 88k miles. It drives very strong and has very solid engine. It is 5-speed. The interior is cashmere with dual leather power seats. It has all power moonroof, windows, locks, ac, abs, very nice sound system, etc,…The both exterior and interior are in good condition. Just got new battrey and tires and oil and filter.

In a brief chat with my buddy Paul from Sports Car Shop, my personal Porsche expert and close friend, his first word were, “when are we headed down to buy this car?!” As you can tell, he agrees it looks like it’s worth a look!

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1990 Porsche C2, 1988 BMW e28 M5, 1989 e30 M3 S50

Speed-linking the posts today because I’m swamped at work! Here we go:

1990 Porsche Carrera 2 on Portland Craigslist for $13k. This is a suspiciously low asking even with the bad clutch, oil leaks, respray, mileage, and low a/c. Then again, it will cost several thousand to correct all those issues. Is this just a case of a realistic seller? I didn’t they existed!

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quote from seller’s Portland Craigslist posting:

I’m selling my 1990 Porsche 911 C2 Coupe, 5 speed manual. guards red paint, black interior in good shape, 113,000 miles, original non smoker California car, clean carfax, aero mirrors, cup 1 wheels (replicas), dual exhaust, keyless remote door locks, new alternator, new alternator fan and belts, new starter, new battery, Alpine stereo, new paint, some records, no accident history. Starts up and runs great, no smoke at startup.
Needs new clutch, drips oil a drop or two, tires at about 50%, sunroof works strong, but needs some TLC, center of rear bumper cover has 6″ round spider web in the paint, AC needs a recharge.
$13000 OBO

This next one is for Jim! A super low miles BMW e28 M5 for sale in Ohio. Enthusiast Auto is well known for their large stock of e30 M3’s and now they have this M5 with under 6k original miles for $46,990!

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quote from Roadfly listing:

Schwarz Black over Natural Tan Leather
ONLY 5,125 Actual 1-Owner Miles!
It is a Garage Queen with Zero Scratches, Marks or Imperfections!
This car is in Concours Condition and is the Best Preserved, Lowest Mileage US-Production E28 M5 known to exist.
All History + Documentation! Nearly Perfect Example!
The car has been stored in a heated garage its entire life.

Finally we have this 89 e30 M3 with the S50 6 cylinder conversion. This one has a bunch of Dinan and aftermarket parts in addition to the swap.

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quote from eBay listing:

  • Dinan 3.0 liter S50 Conversion built by our Dinan Service Center in 2007 at The Gourmet Garage in Lexington, SC
  • Featured at 2007 BMW homecoming at the BMW plant in Greer,SC
  • Stage 3 Dinan Engine : Euro Air Mass, Stage 3 Dinan Chip, Dinan Fuel Pressure regulator, Strut tower brace,Dinan Badge
  • Lightweight 16lb flywheel,Stage 2 Competition Clutch, Short shifter conversion
  • The Cold Air Intake , Exhaust , Catalytic Converter , and wiring integration were custom fabricated in our shop.
  • New Bilsteins front and rear, New front control arms, E36 M3 quick ratio rack and pinion
  • BMW 3 piece 17″ wheels, were disassembled machined and powder coated by Alloy Wheel Specialists
  • Yokohama Parada Assymetrical tires 215/40ZR17
  • New leather installed on front Sport Seats
  • Hand painted “M” color pinstripes
  • Professionally repainted , wet sanded by hand , buffed and polished
  • AC converted to R134a
  • Speedometer rebuilt and set to 0 when Conversion was completed and sold to last owner in 2007
  • Current mileage shown reflects mileage since conversion 9,908 (Not actual miles on Body)
  • Dinan chip allows no speed limiter

I love doing this blog, but my full-time job and part-time clients are keeping me very busy. Anyone out there feel like co-authoring the blog with me?

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944 Turbo Low Mileage Double Post! 2 1986 Porsche 951 For Sale Right Now!

After attending the Rose Cup races at PIR this past weekend, I had a hankering for a Porsche 944 Turbo. Big Time! As we walked by this pair, we were all reminded what a striking car the 951 is when properly taken care of.

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Naturally I was motivated to check in on the Porsche 951 market to see how values were holding up.

First up is this 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo in Wisconsin:

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quote from seller’s listing:

One of the best original, always garaged, never tracked and adult driven 951’s around anywhere, only 54K on her and is the best classic colors guards red with black interior. Only modifications are new Pioneer CD player with iPod input, and Lindsey chips with boost enhancer. Original radio and chips included. All needed maintenance done (see below list).

Interior is original and like new!!, perfect dash (rare), carpet is like new throughout the car and the seats are exceptional, I’ve never seen one like this before.

Exterior is excellent, original paint still has a great red shine and only the normal very minor rock nicks. No accidents or bodywork, amazingly clean, zero door dings, looks more like 5 years old, does NOT need paint. Glass is excellent with no cracks. Original rims are very good with just minor nicks and new rubber. All electronics work (yes, even the clock) Sunroof works flawlessly as well. The car is stored in my heated garage and covered. Only taken out on sunny summer days – no rust of course!

Next is another red 86 Turbo in North Carolina:

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blockquote from eBay listing:

I bought this car a little over a year ago and I’ve put 1000 miles on it. It is in excellent condition. The paint looks fantastic, with only a few nicks here and there from normal driving, none of which are noticeable from 10 feet (maybe less even). The clutch job has not been done, but shows no signs of needing replacement either, probably due to the babied nature of the car. (Porsche recommends the clutch be replaced at 36K miles, but that service has not been done and so far doesn’t need to be done) I do recommend replacing the rear brake calipers as they are showing slight signs of rust from the previous owner. Personally, I have never driven this car in the rain and refuse to. (Sunny days only!) The interior is equally near perfect and has not been smoked in, eaten in, nor have any drinks been allowed inside. There was a dash repair done by a previous owner but it is minor and almost unnoticeable. The leather on the shifter and steering wheel show SLIGHT signs of use, but nothing more than one would expect from 39,000 miles of use. You can replace them if you want, but it doesn’t take away from the interior beauty of the car in my opinion. This is practically a show car. The car comes equipped with Fikse lightweight racing wheels and Continental street/track tires (plenty of life left). A Bursche exhaust makes it purr really nice and boosts performance when combined with the installed PA chip. I have not dynoed the car, but guess that it produces in the neighborhood of 250hp. (More than enough to get you a ticket or two) I have and will include in the auction, all of the original equipment for the car, including the original wheels and tires, exhaust, and chips. I will also include an unused dash mat, a car cover, the original manual, and a certificate of authenticity from Porsche.

Here are the current values from Excellence:

1986 good: $7,834 excellent: $10,488
1987 good: $7,918 excellent: $10,600
1988 good: $8,441 excellent: $11.300 and 1988 Turbo S model $9,188 / $12,300
1989 good: $9,888 excellent: $13,238

I’ve always had a soft spot for the 944/951/968 series and both of these examples get me a little excited! These are sure to continue to climb in value and aren’t getting any easier to find in this condition.

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Wanted: Ruf 6 Speed Transmission for Porsche 930

I got a note from a reader asking for help in locating a Ruf transmission for his Porsche 930:

i just did my engine i upgraded to a ruf 3.4 twin plug on my 1988 930 turbo i was running the stock 3.3 but i had some bolt on power such as a k 29 turbo and a kokelin inter cooler and b&b exhaust with headers i love my upgrade but as you know the weekest link is the stock 4 spd transmission my engine wants more i am very serious on a ruf 6 spd transmission i can not locate one please help me porsches forever its in our blood thank you

Sounds like a helluva setup! Here are pictures of his Turbo:

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Help out a fellow enthusiast! Anyone have suggestions on where you would even start to look for something like this? Leave a note in the comments. Good luck James!

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Porsche 996 Prices are Dropping

If I hadn’t just bought a Honda S2000, I would be calling this guy tonight about his 1999 Porsche 911 Carrera for sale on Craigslist Portland ($17.5k, 60k miles):

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1999 Porsche 911 Black with Black leather. 6 speed. Only 59k miles. Great color combo. Newer Toyo tires. Lightweight BBS rims, 3k when new. Very Tasteful looking car. Tinted windows. Factory CD. Buying newer Porsche from dealer and not wanting to trade in. Just want a bit more than the dealer buy offer. Very clean! FIRM on the price. Could fetch 3k more in current condition. 60k preventative service done.

It’s no secret the 996 is not one of my favorite Porsche 911’s. That said, I’m a big fan of the Boxster of the same generation; and when the the 996 and Boxster suddenly share the same price point, well let’s be serious, which would you really rather have? My thoughts exactly.

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Two Irish Green, Early Porsches For Sale: Happy St. Patrick’s Day!

Irish Green has to be one of the best early Porsche 911 or 912 colors, and in today’s post we have one of each. Both are very fetching in their own ways, but the most significant difference is the price. One features an asking of $78,500 and the other $15,000. Read on for the details…

First up is this beautiful 1966 Porsche 911 on the Samba. Billed as a ‘survivor’, it even features the original paint. Early Porsche 911’s in original or restored condition command top dollar, and this example is no exception with it’s $78,500 asking. But if you’ve seen Robert Redford’s Irish Green 911 that he flogs in the movie Spy Game and thought to yourself Oh Hell Yes, this car should turn you on quite a bit.

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Quote from the seller’s Samba listing:

This 1966 Porsche 911 is a true survivor. The car has been with one enthusiastic owner, a national PCA concourse judge from new until 2002. The current owner, a collector in the Midwest has kept the car in a climate controlled storage since and maintained it on a regular basis.

This car is fully documented from day one and a rare find indeed. The original irish-green paint is still in remarkably good condition and shows very well.

The engine and all mechanicals have been serviced by only the best technicians for early Porsches and this shows once the car is driven. It still feels like a new car with no rattles or unusual noises anywhere, even on rougher surfaces.

Those early 911 Porsches are very unique in the Porsche family and collectors appreciate their special features such as wooden interior trim, steering wheel and chromed rims.

This particular car has been featured in Jim Schragers book on early 911s and it has to be one of the most original and unmolested examples anywhere.

Our next car is a 1967 Porsche 912 for sale on Craigslist in Portland, Oregon. Of course the 912 is only a four cylinder and it’s motor is based on the outgoing Porsche 356 of the period. Nevertheless, this particular one features a performance built motor that just sings as it easily revs to redline, evidenced in the video below. The seller has documented the extensive work done to this car, but also notes that the paint is not perfect. From the pictures, it looks perfectly acceptable to me as a car that can be enjoyed year round! And for the record, it’s fairly well known that the car actually used in the Spy Game movie is in fact a 912 with 911 engine notes dubbed over. What more do you need to know that this is a super value?!

Here are pics from the seller’s own website for this 1967 Porsche 912:

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Quote from the seller’s website:

This classic sports car is ready to take you wherever you want to go: race track, rallies, or touring across the continent. Nearly all of the major mechanical systems have been replaced, upgraded or restored with care in the last two years. New performance engine has 5000 miles on it. Cosmetics such as interior carpets and upholstery are in decent condition, not perfect; my initial focus was to build a reliable and safe sports car for commuting. I would love to keep it, but am forced to sell as I’m moving.

[…]

I think most Porsche 912 owners would love to upgrade their old engines, but secretly pray they don’t ever have to face the costs. When it was time to rebuild this one, I decided to spare no expense in building the most reliable high-performance street engine possible. My goal was to upgrade where the originals have proven unreliable or where performance could be improved without any risks to longevity. This restoration/upgrade alone cost well more than $10k. Needless to say, I was planning on keeping the car for years, and am only selling now because I must.

As you can probably gather by now, I think the 912 is definitely the better value; especially at $15k! Of course a 912 is not a substitute for a 911. But it’s also not to be dismissed as anything less than a fantastic sports car. Add the fact that this one has an expensive rebuilt motor assembled with such focus and dedication, you can tell that this car is at least 85% of the experience of a 911 of the same era.


Touring Portland and vicinity in a 1967 Porsche 912 from Thomas Hamlin on Vimeo.

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1991 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 For Sale in New Mexico

This has to be one of the most attractively priced 964’s in the country right now. Under 100k miles, records, and pictures to prove a clean example. And only $16k asking price!

Check out this 1991 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe on Autotrader:

quote from seller’s listing:

1991 911C2, Grand Prix White with Black leather interior. 97500 miles, all maintenance records. Recent brakes, new rear tires Goodyear Eagle F1 DG’s. Power windows, locks and sunroof. Cruise and AC in perfect working order. Seats are partial power seats (meaning only the bottom is powered). It has a Kenwood CD player and 10 disc changer. The head unit blends in nicely with the interior (I hate the bright shiny blinky silver ones that don’t look like they belong in a 90’s Porsche). The Exterior is in very good shape. Paint is shiny and in excellent condition. The interior is in excellent condition as well. No cracks in the dash and the seats look fantastic. The car has never been on the track. I have the complete maintenance history of the car and I carfaxed it before I bought it in August of 2005. I had it inspected by the shop I’ve used for the last 5 years, they said it was one of the cleanest 964’s they’ve seen come through. It has no issues. They have taken care of a couple external oil leaks, the last being the return line from the oil cooler up front in the nose. The brakes were done recently, along with a synthetic oil change. AC was recharged last summer. For the blemishes…it has a little scrape on the left side of the rear bumper. Not sure how it will show in the pictures, it’s half the size of a dime. There is a rock chip in the right head light. And on the way home from work last week, I picked up rock chip to the windshield. If I don’t get it fixed before selling I’ll take $500 off the selling price. I’ll be trying to get it done next week though. It has been a great car! A lot of fun, it’ll still get 25 or 26mpg on the highway cruising at 80. We’ve taken some fun road trips in it. I’m selling it because I’ll be deploying to Afghanistan for a year and I don’t want it to sit for a year.

I’m having a tough time trying to decide between a Boxster and a 964. My thinking lately is that there are far more Boxsters than 964’s, and that 964 prices might be more stable over the next couple years as a result. Thoughts? Leave a comment!

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2001 Porsche Carrera Cabrio – Too Cheap to be True?

While surfing Boxster adverts on Craigslist, something interesting crossed the radar: A 2001 Porsche 911 Carrera Cabrio w/ 46k miles and an asking of $16.5k:

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quote from seller’s Craigslist posting:

2001 Porsche Carrera Convertible,6Speed,turbo wheels,46k miles,everything works,all power,great running shape,must sell moving

And in case you’ve forgotten, the 996 Cabrio has 315hp and sounds a lot like this:

So why the skeptism? 996’s of any variation start in the high teens, and those have at least twice the mileage of this car. But heaven forbid this is the real deal… well I just can’t believe it is, but it’s fun to imagine.

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Stunning 1991 Porsche 928 GT For Sale with 5 Speed

Here’s a beautiful Porsche 928 I spotted on eBay. The GT model is a special edition and comes with a hotter 330hp V8, an electronically controlled limited slip differential, and the ‘design 90’ wheels. Take a closer look at this 1991 Porsche 928 GT for sale on eBayMotors:

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quote from seller’s eBayMotors listing:

1991 Porsche 928 GT. This is 1991 928 GT production car # 2. Just 81,324 actual and excessively documented miles. Mint and original Guards Red exterior nicely complimented by it’s perfect supple tan leather interior. Fully documented since new and a former one owner car until ’06. This car has just completed a thoroughly comprehensive, mechanical and aesthetic 928 rotisserie restoration and reconditioning over the last nine months. You are now looking at a true concours condition 928 GT on every level. Agonizing attention to detail was paid to every last item in bringing this GT to it’s original and unmolested condition. It should also be noted that this particular GT is the only U.S. GT to be ordered with a factory leather instrument pod housing and factory leather center console. This GT will easily win all local and regional concours events and compete evenly on a national level. No expense was spared in bringing this already rare masterpiece back to “as new” condition. The entire body is simply perfect with absolutely no flaws. No chips, dings or scratches anywhere. Everything about this car is like new condition. Mechanically, the car has just recieved the following items; complete timing belt/water pump service including all tensioners and pulleys and all associated items, pan gasket, valve cover gaskets, intake gaskets, both knock sensors, seals, powdercoating of the intake and valve covers, entire clutch assembly including the disc, pressure plate, throw out bearing, pilot bearing, guide tube, release arm, rotors, pads, tires, retro-fitting and reconditioning of the AC system both front and rear, correct Bilstein shocks, Bosch spark plugs and OEM plug wires just to mention a few. In addition, it should also be stated that the underside of this GT is just as nice as it’s topside. The entire car has been returned to it’s original, unused condition. It looks, runs and drives like a brand new 928 GT! Regardless of mileage, this is most likely the nicest and newest 1991 928 GT in the country.

I’m a big fan of the 928 anyway, but in this color, trim, and with the 5 speed, I think this looks like a great example. Current bid is just under $14k (no reserve auction) and 8 days to go. I’ll update after auction for the final sale price.

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