The R107 arrived in 1971 and remained in production for an extraordinary 18 years, enough time to establish itself as a well-loved symbol of motoring decadence. Today, these roadsters remain usable and admired classics. The 300SL, available in Europe between 1985 and 1989, was never sold in the US. American buyers were therefore deprived of the six cylinder R107 experience, having to choose from a range of V8s instead. A shame, really. In many respects, the bulletproof 3.0 liter engine was a nice match for the chassis. The R107 was always more of a boulevard cruiser rather than a sports car anyway, so the 190 hp offered up by the creamy six cylinder unit is sufficient. With a little less weight up front, these tend to feel a little more agile than the V8-powered models. And aside from some well documented weaknesses (head gaskets, valve guides and stem seals) the M103 is a notoriously reliable motor.
The M491-equipped Carreras of the mid-80s are some of my favorite 911s to come across. They combine the aesthetics, suspension, and braking of the Turbo with the stout and reliable engine of the standard 3.2 Carrera. Not everyone wants a turbocharged 911, but some do prefer those other features. Of perhaps even greater appeal are those rare Carreras that combine the M491 package with the M470 front/rear spoiler delete option. That combination makes for one of the best looking 911s around. We almost never see one for sale.
However, these Turbo-look 911s find themselves in a difficult place in the market. 930 prices have come down for driver-quality examples and now are inching increasingly closer to the higher values of the M491 cars. At some point, the extra thrust of the Turbo might simply become too appealing. For collectors, the math is slightly changed as an M491 Carrera is more rare than those 930s and perhaps could make for a better long term option. Here we’ll take a look at one whose asking price falls squarely within that 930 range: a White Gold Metallic 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet, located in Tennessee, with Tobacco interior and 84,766 miles on it.
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Cabriolet – M491 on eBay
Model: 911 Carrera Cabriolet
Engine: 3.2 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 84,766 mi
Price: Reserve Auction ($78,800 Buy It Now)
This gorgeous two owner factory M491 car is all it appears to be! The car comes with the original window sticker with a $53329.00 MSRP,$10248 was the charge for the 930 Performance body/chassis (M491).The car is as stunning in person as it appears in the pictures.The car has been well looked after with well documented services.The top is as new,the interior is better than pictures reflect with tight leather seats,void of cuts,scratches,or splits.The carpets are as new,the wheels are void of scratches and curb rash.The tires are a fresh set of Retro Bridgestone Potenzas.The car runs and drives as a well serviced Carrera should drive,nice deep throaty sound,tight suspension,good clutch and brakes.Review the 70 pictures posted,if you like the pictures,you will love the car.The color and body combo is so beautiful I could not stop taking pictures and yet I still did not capture how handsome this car is.The car is located in the Nashville Tn metro area,independent inspections are welcomed and encouraged.There will be an additional $99 assessed to the sale price for dealer doc fees.This and other European collectibles may be reviewed at JPFRAZIER.com.You may reach me at 615-971-4409
As far as presentation goes this Carrera Cabriolet performs quite well.…
We’ve seen a steady slow decline in prices of the Porsche 930 over the past year or so. While restricted primarily to the 1986-1988 model years, which lack the 5-speed manual of the ’89MY and lack the early significance of (especially) the 3.0 liter Turbo, it’s been a general feature of the whole range with only the rarest examples commanding significant premiums. This has coincided with a seeming increase in the number of 930s coming up on the second-hand market. In a sense that’s logical: greater availability of comparable options will reduce values. But it’s also a little strange because why sell if the market is going down? Unless you think those decreases will continue. That is the area I want to have an eye on and the example we see here might be signalling that further recessions in value are likely. Here we have a Silver Metallic 1986 Porsche 930 Coupe, located in New Jersey, with Blue leather interior and just 39,340 miles on it priced at a shade under $90K.
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 930 Coupe on eBay
Model: 911 Turbo
Engine: 3.3 liter turbocharged flat-6
Transmission: 4-speed manual
Mileage: 39,340 mi
Price: $89,000 Buy It Now
1986 Porsche 911 Turbo
Silver Metallic with Blue leather interior
Only 39,340 miles!4-Speed manual transmission
It has been well preserved by the same owner in Georgia since 2004!
This 911 Turbo looks amazing in its clean Silver Metallic paint.
The interior is incredible with soft leather seats, clean carpets and trim pieces. There are no tears, cracks, odors or overly worn areas to be found.
Options include California emissions, Limited slip differential & electric sunroof
Comes complete with its original owners & maintenance manuals, tool kit, spare tire & Certificate of Authenticity.
Clean CarFax report with no issues – the link to the full report is on our site.
I’m not sure it would be possible to pick worse lighting conditions for photographing this 930. I suppose if it were dark that would be worse. Sorry, I just needed to get that out of the way because I’ve seen other pictures of this car and it looked incredible. A non-metallic, almost matte, Silver will never be the most jaw-dropping of paint choices but it can look good when executed well. Here it is executed well. Really well. I won’t pretend to have any special knowledge of this 930, but there is plenty of information out there for those who want to read about this build. I didn’t know it existed until now.
Rob Ida is the primary man behind Rob Ida Concepts and most well known for his work with custom built hot rods. In some cases they are incredibly cool designs with lines that stretch the eye along the car’s length creating a sense of movement even while the car stands still. But he’s also worked on a few Porsches and here we have for sale his 1986 Porsche 930, which was displayed at SEMA 2016. As SEMA cars go this build actually is quite subtle. For the most part it maintains the basic design of the 930 – why mess with a classic, right? – with the only major change being a revised front end created by Rob Ida himself. The overall package is aggressive, but with very clean lines and not over the top. The wheels are staggered 16″ at the rear and 15″ up front in order to produce a subtle rake. Achieving that rake was the primary motivating force guiding his work and the end result is pretty great. Frankly, it’s probably one of the best 930s I’ve seen.
CLICK FOR DETAILS: Rob Ida 1986 Porsche 930 Coupe on eBay
Model: 911 Turbo
Engine: 3.3 liter turbocharged flat-6
Transmission: 4-speed manual
Mileage: 101,789 mi
Price: $195,000 Buy It Now
Rob Ida 930 Turbo
2016 SEMA CAR
I have to say that there are some days that I agree with everyone….
The 2.3-16 is more than just a W201 in a fancy bodykit. Developed by Mercedes-Benz to go rallying, it was redeployed in the DTM instead when it became clear that it stood no chance against the Audi Quattro. Powered by a willing four cylinder, 16v motor with a head provided by British racing firm Cosworth, it has nonetheless struggled to move out from underneath the shadow of the E30 M3. While the M3 has now attained legendary status amongst enthusiasts, with eye-watering prices to match, the 190E has rather languished. True, it’s not quite as fun or as fast as the M3 (especially in US specification). It’s not that fast at all, in fact: many modern day, entry level cars will pull away from it quite easily. Still, these 190E Cosworths are great because they retain all of the admirable qualities of the W201 (a confidence inspiring, over-engineered chassis, indestructible build quality) while dialing up the fun.
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 on Atlanta, GA Craigslist…
Do you ever see a car and think it looks awfully familiar? Probably like a lot of you, I scan listings nearly every day, and every day provides a wealth of new examples of rare cars that encourages a lot of what we do here at GCFSB. But, once in a while, one pops up that sticks out like a sore thumb.
Now, being the chief (and only) Audi Coupe GT enthusiast
in the world at GCFSB, I’m obviously prone to remembering these cars. Sure enough, with so few hitting the market these days I tend to remember every single example I’ve written up – meaning, basically every single example which comes to market – sorry about that.
But this one is particularly interesting. I immediately recognized the Team Dynamics wheels that this 1986 was wearing, but the two-tone paint color was off. Not many Oceanic Blue Metallic Coupe GTs are still kicking around, but at least the sides of this one were the neat and oh-so-80s-electric hue. But closer investigation of some of the details in the description revealed what I thought; this was the same GT I knew from the early 2000s. Originally, the car was Graphite Metallic with black leather – a rare combination on an infrequently seen car – and had been upgraded to participate in track events in Pennsylvania with a cage, a hotter NG motor, rear discs and upgraded suspension, those great looking Team Dynamics wheels and a few other odds and ends. Later it turned up on the West Coast with a notorious flipper of Audis; now with European H1/H4 lights and little else but failing paint, the flipper was looking to make a profit claiming it was one of the best GTs in the country. In 2015 it turned up on eBay with a Missouri dealer who had wrapped the car in matte blue vinyl to cover up the failing paint; otherwise, there were no changes.…
The 190E 2.3-16, Mercedes’ competitor to the E30 M3, remains relatively under appreciated, with values struggling to climb higher than the mid teens for a nice example. (If you can find one. Many come to market in a sad state.) The upshot is that those looking for an 80s DTM-inspired hot rod can pick one up relatively cheaply. They’re not all that fast by today’s standards – a humdrum Honda with a V6 would
probably undoubtedly beat it in a straight line – and the high strung four cylinder motor can be a bit finicky. But the combination of 80s Mercedes build quality, a cool aero kit, a chassis that inspires confidence and a dogleg 5 speed manual gearbox (first is down and to the left, leaving second and third directly in line) makes for a unique and enticing package.
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 on eBay…
Here we have another Porsche 930 Coupe, in certain ways similar to the Guards Red 930 we featured earlier in the week in that it’s from around the time when Porsche returned the model to the US market and appears to me to be a pretty reasonable value. However, this one brings with it one serious distinction: it’s paint-to-sample Garnet Red Metallic over a really nicely contrasting Cashmere Beige and Burgundy interior. The mileage is quite reasonable at 40,700 as well! This one could be a good example of a 930 that strikes the right balance between collector and driver. Meaning: it’s low enough miles and interesting enough that collectors should take notice, but has enough miles that it can be used (at least sparingly) without harming its value. Not bad at all.
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 930 Coupe on eBay…
I’m dabbling in monotones a bit this week, which I began with a green-on-green Porsche 930 and will now turn to this blue-on-blue 3.2 Carrera Coupe. Such lack of contrast isn’t always a good thing on a car, but there are particular colors where it works out fairly well. I thought the green 930 looked really good and I feel the same about this 911. And here there is some contrast as the choice of blue for the interior is a good bit darker than the exterior shade. All in all it’s actually quite beautiful. Here we have a 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe, located in California, with just 21,709 miles on it. The colors are described as light blue over blue. We don’t see the specific paint codes, but I’d wager that light blue exterior is Iris Blue Metallic, a personal favorite from this period.
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe on eBay…
I have an itch to buy a W126. Yesterday I test drove a 420SEL that popped up for sale on my local Craigslist (not today’s car – we’ll get to that in a moment). The one I drove was offered at a fair price and when I noticed that it was parked only a few blocks away from my house, I felt obliged to take a look. I had never driven an SEL before. Here are my first impressions: 1. They really are huge. The hood alone seemed to stretch out for miles in front of me. I dreaded to think how far back the trunk extended. “What a nightmare this must be to park in the city,” I thought to myself, as I delicately threaded the car through DC morning traffic. 2. They look glorious in person, even when a bit dinged up, as this one was. 3. When you push down on the throttle you don’t so much surge forward, as waft gently toward the horizon on a magic carpet of dignified torque. Despite being smitten with the car I let it go in the end, concluding that, with snow and ice season just around the corner, I couldn’t justify picking up a RWD, nose-heavy V8 as a daily driver. But I did spend the afternoon gazing wistfully at other 420s for sale on the internet. That’s how I stumbled across this lovely, low mileage example for sale in Florida.
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 420SEL on eBay…
Yesterday Andy featured a very interesting and original green on green early 928. It’s the sort of period-correct combination that we’d expect in the ’70s. Here we’re going to step out of the ’70s and raise the performance bar quite a bit, but retain that green on green profile. Unlike the 928, whose lighter Olive Green interior provided some contrast, this 1986 Porsche 930 Coupe has stayed on the darker side of the spectrum for both the interior and exterior. It’s certainly more monochromatic than the 928, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a light green interior I’ve liked so monotony aside, I prefer the combination here. The colors are Moss Green Metallic over Dark Green and, probably unsurprisingly, I can’t say I’ve come across another like it.
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 930 Coupe on eBay…
Built in conjunction with British engineers Cosworth to rally before the Audi Quattro debuted (and siphoned instead into the DTM when Mercedes realized it stood no chance), the 190E 2.3-16 marries the handsome lines and tank-like build quality of the W201 chassis with a race-tuned four pot engine and a muscular and aerodynamically purposeful bodykit. We’ve featured a number of 16 valvers on the site lately and I’m beginning to wonder if there has (finally) been an uptick in the market for these cars. It does seem as though there are more nice examples out there for sale with every passing year, in contrast to the raft of rotted out and abused ones that used to dot Craigslist not too long ago.
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 on Hemmings.com…
This one will be a little bit of a quick hitter. I’ve featured a good number of classic 911s lately. In part that’s because I like them and there have been a good number of nice looking and interesting examples come on the market. But it’s also in part because their values have gotten a bit more reasonable over the past year and I’ve been interested in where they are selling. That’s my predominant interest here as we have one that looks in good shape, has reasonable mileage, and is up for a no reserve auction. So let’s get to it: here we have a White Gold Metallic 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Targa, located in Oregon, with Tan interior and 56,153 miles on it. The ’86MY usually makes for a nice value since it’s the last year before Porsche debuted the G50 5-speed manual. Let’s see if this one follows suit.
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Targa on eBay…
It’s easy to get lost in a sea of low mileage, crazy asking price 1980s cars – they’re out there, and in reality not particularly hard to find. But then there seems to be a gulf between the cars that are above average with sellers hoping to capitalize on market trends, and forlorn project cars in need of more help than their value. While it would be wonderful to contemplate the salvation of every single example, it’s simply not economically viable. Nor, too, is the idea of just buying the best example in existence and paying a ridiculous premium.
Look in the right place and there is still a happy medium for enthusiasts. Today I’ve located two quite affordable options of 944 Turbos. The miles aren’t crazy, the condition of both is quite good, they each have unique options that make them appealing in their own way. And, each is a no reserve auction. So which is the one you’d want to take home?
CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo on eBay…
Another day, another Targa. And for whatever reason I’m finding myself very much taken in by this one. This 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera Targa, located in Maryland, brings us back within the realm of the regular 911, but that doesn’t stop it from looking great. Grey/red is a color combination we see frequently across the whole 911 line and my favorite version of it is Slate Grey over a bright red interior (Can-Can or Lobster would do the trick). The 911 we have here takes a slightly different line making use of a darker hue of each. We aren’t provided with the precise colors, though we could hazard a guess that this is Meteor Grey Metallic for the exterior and the interior obviously is Burgundy. The combination works very well and what it may lack in flash it makes up for with understated refinement.