914 3.0 conversion for sale in Seattle

1974 914-6 Conversion for sale in Seattle

I tried to buy a 914 when I was 15 years old as a project car.  Great plan, until my parents found out.  Still, the dream of a street legal go-kart persists.  Usually my dreams focus around cheap non-Porsche engine swaps, as most 914s leave a bit to be desired in the power department.  Going the high class route would be doing a sweet swap with a more fortified Porsche engine, which is what we’ve found today.  The list of enhancements is exhaustive; I’ll leave it to the seller’s words:

Body-
Body completing stripped, fenders reworked, acid etch primed and painted DuPont Chroma Black. The job included both front and rear trunks, engine bay with engine removed and door jams. The cost for this work was over $10,000 in 1993.

Suspension and Drive train-
Frame strengthened through welding, 88 Carrera front suspension, Carrera torsion bars, new front struts, 911S front calipers, 19mm master cylinder, turbo tie rods, 16’ 911 hubs, Automotion front and rear bushings, Otto’s rear hub kit with 911 rear hubs and 914-6 stub axles, Ted Hulse rear shocks, 165lb progressive rear springs, GPR through frame rear sway bar, 16×6 front and 16×7 rear refinished Fuchs alloys.

Motor-
1981 911SC 3.0 liter motor, Dillavar head studs, heads reworked, 46 IDA PMO carburetors’, GPR Oil tank in right rear fender, DC Automotive 911 engine sheet metal, GT performance flywheel, Patrick Motorsports engine mounts, Permatune ignition, B&B stainless headers (no heat exchangers)

The car had 70,200 miles on it at the start of restoration and currently has 81,700, so it has travelled approximately 11,500 miles since the rebuild.

Exterior: Overall 8.5/10
Paint- DuPont Chroma Black- The paint on this is gorgeous. It has a deep and consistent shine with none of the orange peel they would have come with from new. There are no significant scratches or nicks but it is black so it will show even the slightest of imperfection.
Body- The body is very straight with not a single ding to be noted. There is no evidence that the car has been involved in any type of collision and overall panel fit and gap is very good.
Body Parts- All of the glass is good, the targa top and side sail panels are like new. All of the seals and gaskets and lights are likewise clean and correct. The only items that I think need some attention are the front and rear bumpers and trim. The 1974 914 featured the bumper overiders and the owner removed the overriders but left the holes in the bumpers. To really look great a set of 1973 bumpers should be installed. The top rubber bumper trim is likewise “rippled” and should be replaced as well, which would happen with a bumper swap.
Wheels- The car is sitting on a genuine original set of 16×6 and 16×7 Fuchs Wheels that are perfect, no peeling, no pitting, no curb damage. The tires are mismatched front to rear and while they have plenty of tread are older due to the cars low miles. Since this car offers such extraordinary performance a new set of tires should be fitted.

Rust- As any enthusiast knows rust is the bane of all 914’s. This particular car was completely stripped and treated during the restoration. The only notable rust I have found in on the driver’s side rear quarter panel just above the taillight is starting to bubble. The front and rear trunks looks pristine. The floor pans and jacking points are solid and the “hell hole” appears to be clean. I would welcome any prospective customer to put the car up on the rack because any 914 will have rust if you look hard enough, but this one looks real solid.

Interior-
Overall the interior I would categorize as a 9.0/10. It is really amazing original condition

Seats: The seats are very well preserved. There is just one flaw I could find on the seats, and that is a slight cut on the passenger side bolster now more than 1” in length that hasn’t even split.
Carpet: The carpet is also darn close to perfect, I could find only one slight wear mark on the driver’s side floor close to the e-brake handle.
Dash: The dash pad is like new, no cracks.
Door panels and Headliner: They are all in excellent shape, no wear or sagging.
Electronics and gauges: EVERYTHING on this car works. Including all gauges, climate control fan, stereo, map light, etc. The only item worth noting is that with the B&B exhaust the heat exchangers were bypassed so there is no heat.
Trunk and accessories: Both the front and rear trunks were refinished when the car was restored so they are very clean. An OEM Porsche 993 inflatable spare has been fitted as the original 914 spare would not have worked with the 911 hubs.


$25k is a lot of money for a 914, but, as the seller states, it would probably take twice that to recreate.  I really like the thoroughness, as this is not just some engine swap but really an exploration of how awesome the 914 can be.  It looks great and has the juice to be a 911-beating handful.  Sure, budgeting may keep my 914 swap dreams cheap, but if I had the means, this would be high on my must-have Porsche list.

-NR

1983 Porsche 944, 28k original miles Guest Post

Guest post By Chris Schobert

Porsche 944 on Craigstlist, http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/cto/1538365471.html

It’s tough to find anything clean in Brooklyn, NY, these days, especially classic 80’s Porsche’s, however I came across a seemingly well cared for 1983 944 with only 28K miles on the clock for an easy $5,700. It’s been garaged and pampered, which are both tough things to do when living in the tri-state area! Stock wheels look to be in great shape, and the body and plastics all seem to match well, which points to the fact that the sun hasn’t faded the vulnerable front and rear bumpers. Interior is missing some common parts, but the seats and dash look extremely good.

A previous Car and Driver top 10 in 1983, the 944 represents one of nicest handling cars you’ll find from a 80’s vintage sports car. The 944 boasts nearly perfect (50.7 front, 49.3 rear) weight distribution, out-corning nearly all competition from its era. Feedback is good from it’s power steering, and body roll is even, controlled. 0-60 in 8.3 seconds and a top speed of 130 mph, the 944 won’t snap your neck back, but it’s 4-cyl engine with 143 HP will be easy on the gas and last for years to come with proper attention to maintenance.

It seems there is always something to look out for when buying a 27 year old car, however 944’s are pretty durable for the most part. Parts are expensive, but since there were numerous built, they are plentiful. Aftermarket and rebuilt engines and transmissions can be found easily. Clutches and timing belts for the most part are the biggest wear item, and electrical gremlins are to be expected.

Overall, it’s a low cost of entry for a very low mileage, great handling, classic 80’s sports car.

From Craigslist:

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/cto/1538365471.html

Hi, selling my immaculate all original 1983 Porsche 944. This amazing beauty has been my sunday/weekend driver for many years and was always garaged and maintained. Waxed regularly it is in excellent shape. Just recently brought it from my Great Neck Long Island home to my other place in Brooklyn. ONLY 28k miles, a realy classic/collectible. Look at the pix and judge for yourself. Priced right at $5700 347-403-3399 BOOK VALUE OVER $9,OOO

~Chris

1984 Porsche 911 Targa DP For Sale in Portland, Oregon

Here’s your chance to get your hands on a Porsche modified with period correct pieces from DP Motorsports. I spotted this Porsche 911 Targa on Portland, Craigslist ($20500, 85k original miles):

1984 Porsche 911 Targa Carrera DP For Sale

quote from Craigslist ad:

This is a beautiful white 911. Not your regular 911. Besides being a European Model it has all the bells and whistles. Approximently 300hp. Origional BB Rims. New low profile tires.
Race clutch, Dual stainless steele exhaust. Whale tale. 964 cams. Same as the Turbo. 930 body with wider steele fenders. Just put in a New starter and Battery. Car is Garaged
and not driven much. 85,000 origonal miles. Engine had a total rebuild at 62K. Origonally purchase in 1984 for 50k which includes the shipping. The origonal owner wanted the
turbo look but not the turbo during that era because the Turbo’s had allot of engine problems. Ordered the car from Porsche but made Body Modifications at DP Motor Sports in Germany.
before having it shipped to Seattle. Never wrecked and is in excellent condition. Must see and drive to appreciate. Have all the Paperwork on this car to verify. Thanks

This isn’t the first time we’ve posted a DP modified 911, but this one is a bit more attainable at only $20k. And 85k original miles would be good for a regular run-of-the-mill 84 Carrera, let alone a gray market spec car with DP goodies and BB wheels! I like it and the price seems about right too. Hope it finds a good home!

dc

Mid-Year Madness – 1974 911 Carrera

It’s been said recently that the mid-year 911s (1974-77) will be the next generation of Porsche’s venerable air-cooled masterpiece to really take off in value.  By the look of things this very attractive 1974 Carrera is leading the charge!

1974 Porsche 911 Carrera For Sale

Model year 1974 rang in many changes for the 911, some well-received, some not so much.  The so-called “impact bumper” made its first appearance that year, replacing the more delicate chrome bumpers worn by all previous 911s.  Conformity with US crash impact standards required the beefier bumpers, but Porsche master stylist Tony Lapine designed an elegant and attractive solution.  Out back, engine capacity was increased from 2.4l to 2.7l in three levels of tune – base 911 with 150bhp and 173lbs/ft torque, 911S (175bhp/174 lbs/ft) and Carrera (210bhp).  Unfortunately for Americans the Carrera powerplant (from the famous 1973 Carrera RS) was still not approved for US emissions standards so US Carreras sported the “S” engine.

The car on auction is a “Carrera” albeit with some tasty upgrades, most notably the very desirable sports seats.  The transmission is the usual 5-speed, with lower ratios.  This may be good or bad, depending on your proposed use for the car.  Maybe not so great for highway cruising, but nice around town and at the track with added low-end grunt.  This car looks great in Grand Prix White with the buerzel (ducktail) spoiler and Ruf-style front valance.  The only thing I’m not feeling is the wheels – they need black centers pronto.

Seller reports he is a long-term (15 years) owner of the car, and that various upgrades have been performed.  The most important of these addresses the infamous “camchain tensioner” issue.  While the standard upgrade is to change to “Carrera” (i.e. 1984 model year) tensioners, the seller states that the tensioners have been “rebuilt”… further querying required on this.  Also, what’s up with the speaker enclosure on the back deck combined with radio delete??

Mid-year 911s have long been the poor relations in the collector Porsche family.  While “longhoods” (1964-73.5) and especially short-wheelbase (1964-68) cars have skyrocketed in value of late, the 1974-77 models have lagged.  Whether the reason was their (marginally) poorer performance, slightly increased weight, impact-bumper styling, or poor engine reliablity (especially on 1975-77 “thermal reactor” cars) the middies just haven’t taken off in value.  Recent trends, however, seem to indicate that this may change.  As longhood values grow out of reach for many, the relatively lightweight middies with their narrow-body vintage appeal are becoming more and more attractive, and this demand will drive prices upwards.  The particular car on auction certainly seems to bear out this trend.

-Dallas

1994 Porsche 911 Turbo S “Flachbau” For Sale on eBay

Porsches of this era are some of my favorites, and I thought I knew of most of the special models. Like the 3.6 Turbo S of the era. But this interesting slant isn’t one that I was familiar with. It’s not the usual slant-nose with pop-up lights, but more like a 928/968 style that is exposed and raises up when lit. Frankly it looks a bit aftermarket, but it was actually a rare factory option referred to as Flachbau. Apparently there were less than 100 made for the entire world, and only about 40 came to the U.S.

Check out this very rare , offered by Manhattan Motor Cars

Porsche 911 Turbo S Flachbau For Sale

quote from seller’s auction:

One of a very limited series of the last hand built 911 Porsches (76 total worldwide production), it is only befitting that this rarely seen model is here in New York City.

The auction is a little thin on information, but as the $150,000 opening bid suggests, only serious inquires need apply. With only 17k miles, this car is looking to be in fantastic shape and should fit into a collection very nicely.

Read up on this very interesting model at flachbau.com

dc

Front Engined, 2-door Porsches

Now that the unthinkable has happened and both four door sedan and SUV Porsche models exist, where do the older, front engined Porsches stand in the eyes of collectors these days?  Here’s two clean examples of two vastly different Porsches from the same era.

1987 Porsche 924 S

The 1987 Porsche 924 S represents the zenith of 924 development, as 1988 was the last year for the sports car originally designed to be Volkswagen’s flagship.  The 924 S does away with that one important piece that had purists refusing to consider it as a real Porsche: the engine.  VW stopped supplying Porsche engines for the 924 in 1984, and thus the 924 S with it’s detuned 944 engine was introduced.  This engine is good for 160 horsepower and is sure to be a great handler, as these front engined/rear drive four cylinders were renowned for their road manners.

The seller states:

PROS: A/C, Power steering, Power windows, Four-wheel disc brakes, Manual transmission, Alloy wheels, CD/MP3 Premium sound system, Leather seats, Tilt/removable sunroof, New Battery/New wipers, and Pirelli tires.  All the manuals, service records, and a full color dealer brochure on the model 924 are included.

CONS: There are two blemishes in paint: front right fender and rear left quarter panel, The plastic gear for sunroof needs replacement (20.00 part) still works though, Minor cracks in dash which are covered by premium dash cover, and the tires are in less than perfect condition.  Other than that car is showroom quality.

While Boxsters can be had all day for well under $20,000, at $6,500, this 924 S is a tasty, low cost means of entry in what could be one of Stuttgart’s most underrated models.  The fact that it is well documented, has a manual transmission and is a desirable color adds to the want factor.

1994 Porsche 928 GTS

The 928 GTS, much like the 924 S highlighted above, represents the end of the line for 928 production.  The GTS models were also rather rare, with only 645 produced in 1994, according to the 928 Registry.  This particular one presents well in white with the more common automatic transmission.

Level of equipment as detailed by the seller:

Power sunroof, full power seats left & right, AM/FM Radio w/ Cassette, 6 Disc CD Changer, Supple Leather, 10 Speaker HiFi Sound Package, Rear A/C.  Just passed 100 point inspection.

While close to $40,000 may seem high for an obscure, used Porsche, one should remember that these cars new cost around $80,000 before options and now, for less than half of that, you can own a clean mileage grand tourer for pre owned Boxter money.  It also pays to get the nicest 928 you can buy, as these neither cheap nor easy to repair.

-Paul

Charlie Sheen’s old 928 GTS for sale

As you’ve probably noticed by now, we’re making changes around here! Aaron is another one of our new authors. Please say hi in the comments section!

The Porsche 928 is a feat of engineering genius and one of the best touring cars ever created.  The 1994 GTS boasts a 5.4 liter 32 valve power plant that produces a robust 345 horsepower.  The later 928’s in particular have aged particularly well, both in styling and value as prices have proven to be recession proof.  The combination of limited production and overall vehicle quality has created quite a demand for these cars.  The below car posted in the Pelican Parts classifieds is an excellent example with an added bit of panache.

1994 928 GTS Coupe 

A rare loaded and meticulously cared for 1994 928 GTS is for sale from a collection as more space is needed. It was formerly the actor Charlie Sheen’s who spared no expense.  It has ALL updated services and brand new Porsche carpet and factory leather ‘ just because’ the owner could.  Driven only 3k miles per year.

Along with the low miles and impeccable condition this car comes with meticulous records from the prior owners, a must for any 928.  A car in this condition should fetch the asking price of $36.5k.  Do you think Mr. Sheen’s ownership adds any value to this 928?  While that may debatable it looks like Chaz took better care of this GTS than his wives.  Just think of the stories the lucky owner will have to share at their next PCA event.  

Porsche 928 Wikipedia

~Aaron

1967 Porsche 911S: Guest Post from Dallas

Note: Dallas is a fan of our site and wanted to contribute on occasion. Here is his first guest post. Please say hi in the comments! -dc

This one is described as a ““. For people that know even a little about vintage Porsches, this is like describing a vintage watch as a “Rolex Submariner 5513 5517” – it’s sort of like nonsense. Just as there are “Submariner 5513s” (cool vintage Rolex watches) and “Submariner 5517s” (very cool incredibly valuable only-issued-to-the-Royal-Navy vintage Rolex watches), there is the “1967 Porsche 911 Coupe” (cool vintage car) and “1967 Porsche 911S” (very cool quite rare vintage car). Let me elaborate…

By 1967, Porsche was into the third model year of its seminal 901/911 series of rear-engined sports cars. For model year 1967 the factory introduced the “S” model as the range-topping version, featuring a hotted-up engine boasting 160bhp – 30 more than the base Coupe and Targa. The factory produced just 1,823 “S” coupes and 483 “S” Targas that year. Despite the power boost, some considered that the S models made inferior street drivers as the increased power was made partly at the expense of low-end torque. However, nowadays, S cars are highly sought after, and an original S can bring serious money. Which brings us to the car on auction…

First off, the car looks fantastic. I’d have left off the racing numbers as a matter of taste, but I think the white stripes and “Porsche” script look great against the dark green paintwork. The cosmetics of this car just look super, with nice Fuchs wheels (introduced on the ’67 S) presenting the classic, iconic short-wheelbase 911 look.

Where things get a bit chancy with this example is in the description, and the question of whether the car is a real “S”. With collector Porsches, much of the price premium is based on originality – original engine and equipment in particular, and whether the car was originally built as the variant it is billed as, or converted later as a “clone”. Porsche will even issue, for a fee, a “Certificate of Authenticity” that confirms the original trim level, equipment, and paint colour of a vintage 911. The seller states:

“this car was born as a straight 911 homologated to an “S” back in the 70’s.”

When I queried the seller as to what this actually means (I asked point-blank “does the CoA issued by Porsche list it as an “S”?), the reply was rather unclear. The seller stated in an email that an S engine was installed in 1984 but the auction description states that the “homologation” occurred in the ’70s. It was apparently “born a 911” (i.e. not an “S”) so I would place a caveat on the description accordingly. The fact that an incorrect VIN was quoted in the auction (and not yet corrected) doesn’t help the comfort level. Once the correct VIN is posted, all questions will be answered… a real factory 1967 “S” has an “S” suffix to the VIN.

A hallmark of this seller’s auctions appears to be extensive quotation of “factory history” information on the marque, but it’s unclear how this relates to the car in question. In particular, the seller quotes extensively regarding the special equipment supplied with the “S”, but doesn’t actually confirm that the car for sale (“born a 911 [non-S]”, remember) comes with the special parts.

I give the seller kudos for listing a telephone number for inquiries, and I hope that a prospective buyer will avail himself of the opportunity of speaking to the seller and clarifying these issues. While a minty real “S” might now bring ~$40K+ (notwithstanding the dreamers asking $100K or more), this car should be considered accordingly. I think an enthusiast would do well to acquire a totally-sorted turn-key (and beautiful) ’67 911 Coupe with non-matching engine like this one for ~$20-25K.

**Note that this car is listed for sale at the seller’s website www.myclassiccargarage.com for $42,500.

– Dallas

Custom 1972 Porsche 911T/E/S/RS/SC/ETC.?

This Porsche falls into a similar category as the last Porsche that made it here, uber clean, somewhat modded, and well documented.

The listing provides good information, (some a bit over the top description),  a little history, and plenty of photos. Because of the modifications, this 911 can’t quite figure out whether it is a E, T, S,  RS, or SC, the VIN shows it started life as a US model E series 911T. An easy identifying feature on this car is the ölklappe, oil filler flap, mounted behind the passenger door on the rear fender. This feature only appeared for this one year after too many Porsche drivers were finding their service attendants filling the oil tank with gasoline.

This car was updated in 1989 with a 3.0 180 horsepower SC engine. Presumably the other mods and restoration work like the repaint occurred at the same time.

The car comes with a set of deep lipped Fuchs 6Jx15 alloy rims and European H4 headlights.  It also has a nice combination or original and custom interior bits.

The seller is a bit shady on the actual mileage, only listing that it has covered 5,300 miles since the modifications. Someone who is good enough to write such an elaborate description, really should know better and should have included the actual chassis mileage in the space eBay provides.

The seller does have a binder full of receipts documenting the car’s service history, which is always a nice bonus.

If one was looking for an original 1972 911T, this is not the car, but if you were looking for a vintage 911 that is partially original with a well cared for history and tasteful restoration and modification, this could be the one.

It is listed on a British site for £21,950  or about $35,400.

~Evan

1989 Porsche 911 Turbo Convertible 5 speed

I like to find ads for cars where the owner claims the car is the best of its kind around.  Lots of times that isn’t true, sometimes it causes another similar car to come out of the woodwork to prove the owner wrong. In this case we have a 1989 Porsche 911 Turbo Convertible with a 5 speed, Number 423 of 600 produced. The owner’s says “in this condition and color combination, this one is the best you will and can find.”  What do you think? The owner must think so judging from the high start price.
The car has some nice upgrades that were done at the time of the initial order at Brumos Jacksonville, 3.3 liter, 330 HP, twin plug engine, Turbo S exhaust:

C02 – Catalytic Convertor
018 – Special order Steering wheel
158 – Cassette radio Blaupunkt Reno
220 – 40% limited slip differential
243 – Short gear shift lever
348 – Fuchs wheels painted in white
494 – additional Blaupunkt amplifier

You have to be a collector to want to pay $60,000 for this 56,000 mile car. The car has points that would appeal to a collector, great all original condition, all books and tools. Still that $60,000 would go a long way towards other Porsche vehicles of this era with similar miles and performance. The car is listed for sale at 60,000 Euros on another site, which would be even more expensive.

Despite the upgrades, clean history and numbers matching aspect of this Porsche I just don’t see someone paying that much. It does look nice though.

~Evan