Double Take: Blower v. Displacement – 1989 944 Turbo v. 1991 944 S2

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Recent technology, engineering and computers have challenged the age-old automotive adage: “There’s no replacement for displacement”. The other day I caught an article claiming the new twin-turbo Audi S8 and S7 can be beefed up and are running sub-4 second runs to 60mph. Not bad for only 4 liters; that would best any muscle car from the 1960s without too much trouble. That, coupled with the Porsche 968 I wrote up the other day got me wondering; given about the same money, would I choose a 944 Turbo or a 944 S2? Well, lucky for us I found two good examples at right around the same miles and price; let’s start with the Turbo:

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Year: 1989
Model: 944 Turbo
Engine: 2.5 liter turbocharged inline-4
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 102,073 mi
Price: $13,000 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1989 Porsche 944 Turbo on eBay

Maintenance:

-Clutch kit replacement and re-surface of flywheel (2006, 62,751 mi)

-Timing belt and water pump replacement (2009, 85,347 mi)

-Alternator replacement (2009, 89,378 mi)

-New tires (2011, approx. 2000 mi driven on them)

-New battery (2013, 102,073 mi)

History:

I’m the third owner. Originally purchased in Germany (Canadian Military Car Sales, Nurnberg). Second owner had it for approx. six years / 8000 miles when I purchased it in 2011. I have the original paperwork and still in contact with the second owner. I drove it (approx. 59,000 mi)so it has normal wear and tear on it but mechanically it is in excellent shape and runs quite good.

This car seems to have an interesting history, matched by it’s interesting color combination. The white interior includes the more rare sport seats with tremendous bolsters; those bolsters show wear (as does the white) which is inevitable if you want to drive the car. The exterior shade is one I’ve only seen on later 944S2s interestingly, and for a Turbo is pretty unique. Some mechanical history is included, which is nice, and while this car isn’t pristine I’d classify it as a very nice driver example. There is some light wear showing outside, the wheels don’t shine as they originally did and the dash is cracked. Great, now stop worrying about those things and just drive it. The 1989s – though not termed “S” – got all of the S upgrades including the M030 suspension and uprated 250hp motor. These are great driving cars, well balanced and fairly bulletproof as long as you don’t turn the boost up too much. Older turbo technology a little too scary for you? How about jumping up a bunch of valves and half a liter to the 944 S2:

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Year: 1991
Model: 944 S2
Engine: 3.0 inline-4
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 106,000 mi
Price: No Reserve Auction, $13,000 opening bid

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1991 Porsche 944 S2 on eBay

I have a much loved 1991 Porsche 944s2 with rare options. It is the last year produced and has the one year only options that became the 968. Red with Gray and black interior. Everything works flawlessly and has been maintained to an incredible standard by one of the renowned 944/928 specialist shops. It has new leather because I wanted it not because it needed it. It has 968 matte black cupII wheels with new tires but I have like new original wheels and tires with it. It has ice cold air, Power windows and mirrors, Sunroof, new Porsche drilled rotors and pads. Dash is perfect, no cracks. I just did the full service cam tensioner / timing belt etc. I spent some money on this because my mechanic is the best. Just powder coated to factory specs the valve cover. This car needs nothing. The underside you can eat off of and I just installed a Alpine unit with Bluetooth and audio streaming of IPOD or Pandora radio with out the need to plug anything in but it has a USB plug to charge. Voice dialing and music is amazing. 5speed with limited slip differential(ultra Rare) and the 10 speaker sound system from the factory another rare option code, 968 spoiler. Original working Porsche stereo. 105k miles. All compression is like new and near even. $13500. You wont find many cars as nice and unmolested as this example. I spent years searching for this car. Never tracked adult owner.

David 949 232 8200. Car is a southern California car.

The 944 S2 was indeed the prototype for the 968, only missing it’s 6-speed option and some minor exterior refreshing. To some, the earlier “chunky” looks of the 944 are preferable. Guards Red is a safe bet on these cars and generally always looks great. As usual, I wish the Cup wheels were silver rather than Matte Black, but the sale seems to include the original Design 90s that should be on there. Like the Turbo, some maintenance is done so that’s a plus, and the interior has been refreshed “just because”. Although this car doesn’t have the sport seats of the Turbo it does carry the limited-slip rear end, making it a bit more fun in the twisties.

So, for around $13,000, which is a better deal? Well, both are pretty solid looking cars; ultimately, I think it comes down to what you want to do. Day to day, I’d have to argue the S2 is probably a better choice – they’re easier to drive around town, and because of the linear power delivery they’re actually a tad bit quicker around a track than a stock Turbo in my experience. However, “stock” and “944 Turbo” seldom go together, so if you’re inclined to have an occasional car with more scoot, the Turbo is capable of that in strides. It wouldn’t be hard to push 100 hp more than the S2 out of the 2.5, and then it would be no contest of which would be faster. I do like the rarity of the S2, but that pretty Turbo seems to be calling my name this time around…

Which would you choose?

-Carter

1986 Porsche 944 Turbo

Last week I wrote up a spectacular looking Guards Red 1986 944 Turbo which drew a fair amount of interest from all of you, but gained little notice on eBay and failed to sell. Today we have another 1986 944 Turbo of a slightly different flavor; one of the triple white models. Like the red car, these models remain a very easy entry into classic high performance German motoring. Great build quality and longevity, fantastic driving experience and sedate but aggressive looks are all hallmarks of this model which remains undervalued compared to its contemporaries. If you missed out on the last one, here’s another opportunity to jump in to classic Porsche ownership on the bottom floor:

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Year: 1986
Model: 944 Turbo
Engine: 2.5 liter turbocharged inline-4
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 74,637 mi
Price: $15,998 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo on eBay

Service History
74,637 Miles
Non-Smoker
All Regular Scheduled Maintenance Performed
Passed Thorough Dealer Inspection
Dealer Maintained
Have Service Records
Have Original Manuals
Have All Keys
No Known Mechanical Problems
Warranty
As-Is – Extended Warranty Available. Contact seller for details.

Condition Report
Excellent Interior
Excellent Carpets
Excellent Seats
Excellent Dashboard
Excellent Panels / Headliner
Excellent Exterior
Excellent Original Paint
Excellent Trim Condition
Excellent Glass Condition
No Visible Dents
No Visible Rust
No Known Accidents
No Known Bodywork
Fully Detailed

Features & Options
Ext / Int Color
White with White Full Leather Interior
Luxury Features
Air Conditioning
Climate Control System
Tilt Steering Wheel
Clock
Tachometer

Power Equipment
Power Steering
Power Windows
Power Locks
Power Mirrors
Power Driver’s Seat
Power Passenger Seat
Safety Features
Security System
Keyless Entry
Anti-Lock Brakes
Fog Lights
Intermittent Wipers
Rear Defogger

Interior
Leather Steering Wheel
Leather Gear Shifter
Audio / Video
Factory System
AM/FM

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Compared to the Guards Red 1986 944 Turbo I wrote up last week, this car looks to be as nice but has more miles and a higher asking price. The red car also had recent expensive maintenance taken care of and a fully documented history. Despite that it failed to sell with a high bid of $12,000. Hard to believe, considering what its contemporaries are demanding in price these days, but the market speaks. I do like the triple white look of this car, but the dealer/questionable maintenance aspect on one of these worries me a bit. However, the white heavy-bolstered sport seats show little signs of wear, as does the car overall, perhaps pointing towards careful previous ownership. Being a dealer, you can be sure the asking price is on the higher side and even though I prefer the white on this car, I think overall the red car would have been a smarter buy for the long term. Still though, this car is a good value even if it is priced a few thousand dollars on the high side. All you have to do is think about the condition E30 M3 this money would buy and you really can start to appreciate how much more value for your money the 944 Turbo is right now. Simply put, there is no better bang for your buck in German motoring!

-Carter

1986 Porsche 944 Turbo

I still remember my first drive in my father’s 1989 944 Turbo S. Being a young adult who had been into cars for quite some time, I had read all of the magazine articles about the 944 and knew it by the numbers. Still, it was a special feeling traveling down the road, one that transformed me into a bit of a megalomaniac. I had traveled almost exactly 1/3 of a mile before I decided that I was a driving God and would show everyone just how good I was. Ahead on the road was a merge intersection requiring you to come to a stop before entering traffic. “No problem,” I thought, “I’m in a Porsche Turbo.” As an infinitesimally small gap in traffic opened, I popped the clutch, squeezed the steering wheel, mashed the throttle and squinted to bear the brunt of the impending acceleration I was sure was going to come. It didn’t.

In disbelief, I looked down to make sure the car was still running, then panic washed through me as I turned my attention to the rear view mirror and the rapidly approaching Camry with its high beams and horn blazing. I had just enough time to utter “Oh, Shi…” when BOOM – I was sure I had been rear ended. The 944 squatted, grunted, and like a scalded cat with Tabasco splashed on its nether regions, I rocketed away from the Camry like the hero I thought I was. That was my trial by fire in the 944 Turbo, one of the many Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde forced induction cars built in the 1980s. Not as uncommon or sought after as some of its equivalents like the M3 or Audi Quattro, the 944 Turbo remains a solid value for exotic level German performance. Today’s example is a sharp looking excellent condition Guards Red 1986:

Year: 1986
Model: 944 Turbo
Engine: 2.5 liter turbocharged inline-4
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 42,000 miles
Price: $15,000 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo on Ebay

This is a 944 Turbo, never raced, has Porsche Certificate of authenticity, as well as full documented maintenance history. As the most recent owner I have replaced the clutch, clutch master cylinder, clutch slave cylinder, water pump, thermostat, turbo water pump, power steering pump, muffler, sound and heat barrier under the hood, and hydraulic steering rack. Interior leather is in mint condition. The dash has no cracks. Hood has been re-painted to fix rock dings, but the rest of the car is ORIGINAL paint from 1986 in excellent condition. The tires are in very good condition. Car has been always been covered and garaged.

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Finding unmodified low mileage 944 Turbos is pretty difficult. There are plenty of beaten cars available for under $6,000 and more needing attention between $6,000 – $10,000. This example strays a bit from stock with what appear to be non-stock Fuchs alloys; either they’re refinished originals (they should be black) or are from another car and replaced the original silver “phone dials”. Either way, they’re a nice change from the standard fare on these cars without looking out of place. Otherwise, the car appears to be original. The seller notes that the front has had paint work due to rock chips, and there is plenty of maintenance mentioned; chief among which is the infamous clutch replacement, a noted bear of a repair on these cars. Interestingly, my father’s car recently had the steering rack and lines replaced as well, and that was no simple or inexpensive process. Having these and other failure points covered certainly takes away some of the worry of ownership of a car of this caliber – now you can save your money to pay the speeding tickets.

$15,000 is bordering on decent Turbo S money, but you’re not likely to get into a Turbo S with similar miles and maintenance for that amount. While at the high end for a non-S model, it’s still a lot of car for the money, especially in comparison to the values that 911s, E30s, and even clean Audi Quattros are bringing these days. These cars are stellar performance machines if kept in the power band, are noted as one of the best handling chassis of the 1980s, yet will return 30 mpg on the highway and are comfortable cruisers with hatchback practicality. It’s surprising that more people don’t snap them up for a great weekend and occasional car. Now’s your chance!

-Carter

1987 Porsche 924S

Please join me in giving a warm welcome to our newest contributor (and longtime reader) at German Cars For Sale Blog, Carter Johnson.

-Paul

Often overlooked by both people who own Porsches and people who want to own Porsches, the 924S remains a bit of a hidden gem. Even people “in the know” often dismiss the 924S as nothing more than a budget offering undeserving of the Porsche name. However, if you could get past the dashboard which carried over from the earlier Audi-engine model of the late 1970s, the 1987 924S was quite the performance bargain. Underneath, it was infused with 944 DNA in the form of engine, suspension and brakes, and while the exterior remained understated and lacked the sexy flares of its 944 and 944 turbo brethren, the 924S was actually quicker to 60 and top speed than the 944, and due to a slightly more slippery exterior, returned better fuel economy as well. As most were under-appreciated, values fell quickly and most were abused – thankfully this is not the case with this low mileage Guards Red 1987.

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Year: 1987
Model: 924S
Engine: 2.4 liter inline-4
Transmission: 3-speed automatic
Mileage: 50,700 mi
Price: $12,900 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1987 Porsche 924S on eBay

1987 Porsche 924S. One owner since new! Gorgeous Guards Red with Porsche logo black interior! 50,700 original miles! Original factory manuals! Full service records from new! Factory removable sunroof! Automatic transmission! Like new inside and out! Possibly the finest, most well documented 924S in existence!

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This car appears to be setting the market for a pristine example. There are two ways to look at the steep “Buy it Now” price – $12,900 is a tremendous amount for a 924S, or $12,900 is a bargain for a pristine classic Porsche. While $13,000 may get you past 944 Turbo entry and even brush a bargain 968 price, it’s unlikely that you could find a example of this quality level of either of those models for anywhere near that amount. While $10,000 might be a more realistic price, it’s just about impossible to find a 924S in this condition and you certainly couldn’t replicate it for the asking price. The only downside for most enthusiasts is the automatic transmission. Still, since it’s not an ultra-low mileage museum piece, this is a classic car that could be driven to events and enjoyed on weekends for many years to come. Better yet, you’d be driving a red Porsche without breaking the bank on maintenance or restoration. Twenty six years later, perhaps the promise of the entry level Porsche has finally come true!

-Carter

1984 Porsche 944 with 7,500 Miles

Unlike a lot of my car enthusiast friends, I like the Porsche 944. It always surprises me when I show people a picture of one or point one out on the street, I get the usual lukewarm reaction. Maybe the 911 is so ingrained in peoples’ minds as what a proper Porsche should be that they forget about these capable sports coupes. Whatever the case may be, these cars represent a decent value in comparison to their stable mates. This early 944 is another one of those low mileage garage queens, with just 7,500 miles on the odometer.

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Year: 1984
Model: 944
Engine: 2.5 liter inline four
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 7,500 miles
Price: $25,500 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1984 Porsche 944 on eBay

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1984 Porsche 944

7,500 Miles

All Original

2.5 liter 4 cylinder engine

5 speed manual transmission

Factory sunroof

Leather interior

A stunning original example!

COLLECTOR QUALITY!

Available for inspection by appointment (stored in Auburn, Indiana). Clear Indiana title states “actual” miles.

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No doubt this is one of the earliest, lowest mileage 944s I’ve come across, but does that make it a $25,000 car? Probably not. At the most, the seller might be lucky to get $16,000 or $17,000. There are plenty of other later 944s and 968s out there with higher, but not unreasonable mileage that you wouldn’t feel guilty about spoiling. Unless you owned a museum or simply had to have a showroom original, this car doesn’t make a lot of sense. But it is nice to come across these preserved examples of the classics we love, as it brings back memories for some.

-Paul

1986 Porsche 944 Turbo

A lot of the icons we love from the 1980s have either been out of reach or are fast becoming out of reach for collectors of more modest means. The Ferrari Testarossa, Porsche 911 Turbo and more recently, the BMW E30 M3 come to mind. There still exists some quality German iron out there for those on a budget. At the top of my list is the Porsche 944 and 968. Long derided by Porsche purists who thought their sports cars should be air-cooled and have a flat six engine hanging over the rear axle, these four cylinder Porsches are beginning to be more widely accepted in the light of Porsche sedans and SUVs that roam the earth these days.

Out of the entire range, one of my favorites is the 944 Turbo. These were fast cars for their day, capable of reaching 60 mph in under six seconds. Painted in black with black Fuchs alloy wheels, this 944 Turbo for sale in New York has a tough, purposeful look about it.

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Year: 1986
Model: 944 Turbo
Engine: 2.5 liter turbocharged inline four
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 51,000 miles
Price: $16,995 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo on eBay

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This Porsche has only done 51k miles since new! Its has the perfect options combination with beautiful black over spotless tan leather, 16″ turbo Fuchs wheels with new tires, Alpine premium sound, power seats windows, locks, and mirrors and removable sunroof! The 2.5L 4-cylinder turbo runs excellent and the 5-speed manual transmission shifts smoothly. The carpets are perfect as well as the dashboard and windows, with no wear or cracks whatsoever. The timing belt and water pump were replaced less than 3000 miles ago at Langan Porsche in Albany, NY. This really is a great driver’s car or a great addition to your collection! The clean CARFAX Vehicle History Report can be found just above this description. It has been fully inspected and serviced in our on-site 13,000 sq. ft. facility and then detailed to the highest standards!

This Porsche 944 Turbo is pristine!

– 2.5L Turbo 4-Cylinder

– 5-Speed manual Transmission

– 16” Fuchs Wheels

– Sunroof

– New Tires

– Leather Interior

– Power Seats

– Ice Cold Air Conditioning

– Power Windows, Locks, and Mirrors

– AM/FM/CD Player

– Alpine Premium Sound

– Limited Slip Differential

– 51k Miles

– Clean CARFAX

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Ben featured a 1987 944 Turbo back in April that was selling for $12,000. That car had just over 67,000 miles on the clock, which admittedly isn’t a lot more than our feature car. Unless it is an extremely low mileage example, around $12,000 to $15,000 seems to be the sweet spot for these sports coupes nowadays. Considering how the E30 M3 has taken off in value, I think these 944s are an excellent value. Hopefully they continue to be a dark horse in the collector market, because I’d like to snap one up someday.

-Paul

1986 Porsche 944 Turbo

One of our Featured Listings from last week, the 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo, has been advertised on eBay by its owner with an opening bid of $10,000. This is a car in need of a good home and hopefully will find its way to one this holiday season.

1986 Porsche 944 Turbo on eBay

The below post originally appeared on our site December 8, 2012:

The Porsche 944 is a modern classic that has been coming into its own as of late. Not only have 911 purists begun to accept this car more so than in the past, but more and more enthusiasts are waking up to the fact that this was one of the best handling cars of recent memory. An evolution of the 924, the 944 was introduced in 1982 bringing upgrades and refinement to this four cylinder, rear-wheel drive coupe. At first, these cars offered a 2.5 liter, 150 hp engine, but in 1986, Porsche decided to bring out the big guns. The 944 Turbo arrived in 1986, known internally as the 951. Included was a turbocharged, intercooled version of the standard engine, producing 220 hp in stock form. This was the first turbo fitted to a car that made use of a ceramic port liner to retain exhaust gas temperature. Other features exclusive to the Turbo included a stronger gearbox with a 3.375 final drive ratio. A tauter suspension was also included with progressive springs.

This first year 944 Turbo for sale in Texas comes to us from our reader Chris who happens to be a Porsche Club of America member and one fastidious owner when it comes to maintenance.

1986 Porsche 944 Turbo on Rennlist

Year: 1986
Make: Porsche
Porsche Model: 944 Turbo
Mileage: 137,000
Options: Air Conditioning, Alarm System, Cruise Control, Foglamps, Intermittent Wipers, Leather Seats, Power Brakes, Power Steering, Power Windows, Sunroof
Color: Black
VIN: WP0AA095XGN156480
Price: $10,500
Location: Texas
Transmission Type: Manual – 5 speed
Engine Type: Turbo
Stereo System: AM-FM CD

On offer is my black/black 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo (Type 951, built 6/86, VIN: WP0AA095XGN156480) with 137k miles in fantastic shape. It’s a very clean, well-documented, well-maintained, well-sorted driver with minimal modifications that is original inspired and reliable enough for daily use. Always garaged. Original paint (7/10), minimal dash cracks. Michelin Pilot Exalto tires with 50%+ remaining. Spent most of its life running through hill and dale in Georgia and Tennessee. Rumored to have been tracked once years ago, no autocrosses or ‘offs’. I love this classic supercar and wish it could stay in my garage for years to come, but I must sell to fund a home project.

Mutually, it’s a good time for me to get out, and for you to get in. The car has seen a great amount of care and maintenance in the past year as well; $6k in receipts as a matter of fact, from when I bought it in October 2011. The records folder goes back to the original owner in 1993. I am a PCA member and have painstakingly approached ownership of this car, like the previous 5 owners, with a near-open checkbook policy more to maintain it, less to mod it. The last owner kept it in storage and drove it occasionally every few weeks for 6 years. I drove it more than a few times every week for the past year in a different climate, so a whole lot of items came to the surface and got sorted out. I don’t anticipate the next year needing near this much work as a result! It’s been treated like a fine classic German timepiece and most everything works.

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Pictures do appear harsh in the direct Texas sun as it amplifies all details for better or worse in my lens, but looks better in person. Let me know if there’s anything you’d like to see more clearly without the glare that is in some of the photos. I may reshoot these on a partly cloudy day for serious inquiries (am already late getting this listed from a few folks waiting).

Maintenance in the past 14 months:
Professional paint correction and detailing by Details, Ltd. of Addison (also regularly hand-washed at home, 2 bucket system, Zaino)
Hatch alignment and new pin seats (hatch does not chronically rattle or squeak)
Porsche idle stabilizer screw and o-ring (idles perfectly around 840rpm)
Porsche cassette holder/tray with hinge and Lart’s black leather armrest cover
Porsche hood struts
BOSCH cruise control module
BOSCH hatch lock motor
BOSCH MicroEdge wipers (all 3)
Texas inspection sticker good until 9/2013 if sold in-state (passed in 9/12, no emissions req., still has cat installed)
New front brake hoses, system bleed/flush/fill with Super Blue fluid
Lart’s braided fuel lines with OE Porsche damper line (engine bay lines, replaced originals)
BOSCH 3-bar FPR (fuel pressure regulator)
BOSCH FPD (fuel pressure damper)
BOSCH diverter valve (full boost at 1.8 bar)
Porsche coolant tank reservoir (clear, not yellow) and hoses (Coolant temperature regularly reads at and between the two white marks on the gauge)
BOSCH heater control valve and associated hoses (heater operational)
Coolant hose from engine to radiator
Upper and lower radiator hoses
BOSCH auxiliary coolant pump and thermostat (for turbo)
Facet speed and reference sensor wires
Porsche rear half-shaft axle assemblies and CVs
K&N air filter
BOSCH distributor cap, rotor, seal, cover
BOSCH copper spark plugs
BOSCH wireset
DuraLast red-top 3-yr. battery and Porsche cover cap
Rear tail lamp, brake, and side marker bulbs
Oil and filter change @ 133k, always changed every 3-5k (May; Mobil1 15W-50, needs again in 1k or right after driving home a long way)
A/C recharged (R134a, converted in 1995; cold enough for Texas)
Engine re-seal (front)
Balance belt
Cam belt tensioner
Timing belt and water pump (2011 @ 130k miles, 7k on new belt; change every 45-60k miles)
Clutch was measured at 21mm in 2011, 6k miles ago, no abusive launches, strong hookup
Tie-rod ends, control arms, bushings looked good in 2011, no pot holes or hard knocks
Had PPI and Clarks-Garage buying guide reviewed a year ago by an ex-Brumos mechanic in Nashville; all of these were ‘OK’ or addressed, have notes

Factory Options:
All codes: C02, 158, 418, 425, 431, 454, 533, 650, 946

Modifications:
Autothority/APE ‘Stage 2’ 270hp chip; dyno sheet included in records indicates 290hp, 170mph max; makes more power than a Turbo S (done in 1995)
Cross-drilled brake rotors; previous owner, still straight and true with lots of bite
Becker/Porsche CDR-220 AM/FM/CD stereo with AUX-in adaptor (swstereo.com) and MB Quart DKD 146 speakers (four 4×6); really great stereo (2012)
Custom milled aluminum black smartphone tray in ashtray location, holds an iPhone 5 and coins, misc. underneath (2012)

Comes with: what it still has plus a spares box
Porsche ignition, door keys, 1 set (original)
Porsche 944 Turbo owner’s manuals and folder (original)
Porsche 944 Turbo Workshop Manual binder (original)
Becker radio code in owner’s manual folder
Porsche air compressor, working (original)
Porsche spare tire, jack, tools (original)
Porsche black leather sunroof sleeve (original)
Porsche black screw-in front tow hook (new)
Porsche black touch-up paint
Porsche RL bumper pad (spare, RR replaced 2012)
Porsche DME relay spare (new)
Lloyds black floormats
CoverKing fitted windshield shade (save that nice dash!)
Black wooden dowel hatch prop
Porsche Club of America ‘Panorama’ and Maverick region ‘Slipstream’ magazines from the past year
Rennlist silver die-cut decal (new)
The replaced original ashtray, stereo under pocket, armrest (junk), speaker grilles (MB Quarts don’t clear these) and washer fluid pump (broken)
Bags of various spare Porsche 944 Turbo relays, fuses, switches, screws, brackets, bolts, nuts, clips, etc. for your partsbin
Bottles of coolant (Peak, 1/2), oil (Mobil1 15W-50, new), power steering fluid (AutoZone Dextron ATF, ¼), and some paper towels

Needs and FYIs:

Don’t let the long paragraph scare you! I’m just OCD with cars. As with most 951s, the oil pan gasket leaks. Even my mechanic says this is OK and to just regularly check the oil (every fillup, Mobil1 15W-50, keep at top dipstick line). Garage drip tray recommended. If you want to start tracking the car some or get tired of ‘marking your spot’, you’ll want to replace that and the head gasket prior (last done and resurfaced in 2007) to be safe, but these are otherwise fine for street use. Very minor power steering leak, check level every 1k miles. Clutch pedal will occasionally stick at the top 1/5 of travel when cold, does not affect drivability if it happens (pull pedal up 1” with toe); hydraulics and switch are fine, I just cannot physically get up to this mechanism to lube it properly. Electric hatch motor works but the switch is intermittent. Windshield washer system from the reservoir to the nozzles needs to be replaced- I just squeegee. The sunroof works great but the microswitch tab in the panel is handicapped, so you need to use something like a toothpick to engage it only for the UP operation- DOWN is normal. The hatch struts are worn, but 944 owners know if you put new strong struts on, they may make the hatch glass delaminate from the frame faster- I’ve just used a black wooden dowel (sometimes they stay up if it’s warm). The gas gauge when full reads 3.5/4. The oil gauge when fully topped up reads 4.5/5 (2/5 when idling).

The car has a clean CARFAX, though you’ll note a mileage discrepancy- the previous-owner swapped in another gauge cluster rather than repair the faulty speedometer plastic gear (2010). The car shows to have 96,XXX miles but really has 136,XXX miles (am selling at 137k, still driving it some). CARFAX more obviously shows the actual mileage (rule of thumb- add 40k miles to whatever is on this working ODO… again, this is a very nice driver, but will not pass a PCA concours show car test). If you decide to address these items and really want to make it perfect, the nose and front bumper along with the side rub strips trim could use a respray as they’re faded from 26 years of road rash and touch-up paint spots. Otherwise and elsewhere, the original paint is really a very nice 8/10! A couple small dings on the hood. No critical showstoppers- just gas and go!

How to get it:

Experienced drivers and serious enthusiasts only who have funds ready. The car is available with a clean Texas title in my name in-hand for $10,500. This already takes into account a few of the needs. The car is an increasingly rare solid driver out of the box, with much documented recent maintenance, few needs, and a couple modest upgrades. It cleans up really well, drives smoothly and solidly, and isn’t a neglected project basketcase nor a concours trailer queen. This is one of the nicest, most sorted, turn-key, desirable and interesting black-on-black 951s on the market that is ready for you to drive home today. It’s been reliable and will start and go whenever you want. Available for a fresh PPI on your dime. If you’re a hobby mechanic like me, you can maintain this car using the wealth of open technical knowledge on clarks-garage.com and the Rennlist.com forums. And join PCA!

As I have done with all other cars I’ve bought and sold online, funds are to be either wired to my bank or delivered in-person with a bank draft check. I trade you a title, bill-of-sale, and keys. A refundable $150 PayPal deposit is required up front to hold your place. Whether you’re local or flying-in, plan on a short overview of the car in my garage before you set off with it so you’re as familiar with it as possible. I can pick you up from DFW or Love Field with a full tank of gas and throw in a local case of beer if you want. Fly-in, drive home in your new Porsche, and see America along the way. Such trips to pick up a ‘new car’ are among my favorite life experiences. Plan a route and make a brief vacation out of it! You’ll be glad you did. If you don’t plan to travel, I have a great transport broker I’ve used a few times that can ship the car to your driveway on a transporter. Hope to hear from you soon!

As one of the commenters said on the original Rennlist post, THIS is how you write a classified ad. The seller leaves little unturned and it’s quite obvious that this car has received the respect and care it deserved over the years. I’ve admired the 944 for many years, and even though it has higher mileage than I’d normally consider, I wouldn’t hesitate to pull the trigger on this car if I was in a situation to do so. Anywhere between $7,000 to $12,000 will buy you a solid, higher mileage 944 Turbo these days, so this seller is right in the sweet spot when it comes to the asking price.

-Paul

1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S

Even though you’ll always get the “why didn’t you buy a 911” look from people, I’ve always been a fan of the Porsche 944 as a stand alone entity. Sure, it isn’t quite as iconic as its rear-engined sibling, but this was one of the best handling cars to hit the pavement and they are a relative bargain on the used market today. The Turbo S debuted in 1988 with the M44/52 engine with 250 horsepower, Koni adjustable shock absorbers, harder bushings and larger diameter anti-roll bars. Larger front brakes from the 928S4 were also fitted and ABS was standard. This Turbo S for sale in Georgia has 67,000 miles on the clock and comes equipped with what could best be described as a very ’80s themed interior.

1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S on eBay

1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S Silver Rose Edition (1 of 339). Absolutely beautiful, garage kept, meticulously maintained 1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S Silver Rose Edition with 67K original miles. One meticulous owner with documentation including original window sticker, stamped factory maintenance book, all keys, and scores an 80 on AutoCheck (normal score range 24-50). Could be considered extremely close to a “10” interior, exterior, and mechanically. One minor ding in the front valence and minor sand blasting of rocker panel behind front wheels and and ahead of rear wheels on both sides of car (see pictures). Everything functions as it should including A/C, Heat, Sunroof, etc. She was just serviced and completely gone through by Technica Motorsports in Atlanta. Belts, Rollers, Tensioner, Water Pump, Oil and filter change, Transaxle fluid change, Hood Shocks, H4 Headlight upgrade with 55/100w bulbs, etc. No paintwork or damage history, factory paint is untouched, please see detailed Paint Meter results.

Car will come with either Polished Club Sport Wheels or Refinished Club Sport Wheels, buyer’s choice, either set is perfect with new tires in proper factory sizing (225/50-16 and 245/45-16). I am a long time PCA member and have owned a 356B, 911’s, 928S4, 930’s, 944 Turbos, and a 996 GT2. I am a connoisseur of unique automobiles and I personally buy and sell 5-10 cars per year (hence the dealer’s license). I fully disclose every known detail about my cars so that there are never any surprises. I have exported several automobiles and I will gladly assist overseas buyers.

The last 944 Turbo S we featured had 35,000 miles and sold for $21,000. With almost double the mileage, can this car bring $20,000? Maybe $17,000 to $18,000 would be more realistic. But there might be someone out there looking for the best 944 they can find, and given that this car was owned by a Porsche enthusiast and PCA member certainly has its merits. Personally, this color combination isn’t my favorite, but the 944 is one of those bucket list cars for me. A Turbo S in this kind of condition would certainly be high on my shopping list when the time came.

-Paul

1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S

Porsche upped the 944 ante in 1988 with this car, the Turbo S. This version included the M44/52 engine with 250 horsepower, the added power resulting from the use of a modified turbo and revised engine mapping. Extensive suspension modifications came in the way of Koni adjustable shock absorbers, harder bushings and larger diameter hollowed out anti-roll bars. Larger front brakes from the 928S4 along with ABS was included in the package, as well. The following year, the “S” designation was dropped, as the normal 944 Turbo was now made standard with the Turbo S engine. This Turbo S for sale in Ohio has 35,000 miles and has had a good bit of maintenance and other items tended to in the past two years.

1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S on eBay

1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S – Guards Red over Light Frey Partial Leather. Excellent condition. Recent full service including water pump and timing belt. Heavily optioned car with the rare factory Turbo S option. Original option list as listed on the Certificate of Authenticity:

Special Chassis Rigidly Tuned
Limited Slip Differential
Headlight Washers
Protective Side Moldings
Rear Window Wiper
Full Power Seats – L/R
Cruise Control
HiFi Sound Package w/Speakers
Amplifier System
Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS)
Electric Sliding Sunroof
Split Fold Down Rear Back Rest
AM/FM Radio with CD Player
944 Turbo ‘S’
Partial Leather Seats Front

All books, both keys and fobs, dash cover, Porsche car cover, and original factory radio are included. Recent service includes the following:

— August 2012: New tires mounted and balanced, wheels refinished. Bridgestone Potenza 205/55-16 and 225/50-16

— February 2012: K&N Air Filter, ECU chip set, Distributor cap, and rotor, Cat bypass down pipe, DME relay modified, intake manifold gaskets, OEM factory motor mounts, waste gate shim kit, high performance spark plugs, PFC front brake pads, front brake lines, all fluids changed, and more. Total bill $7956.26. With upgrades the car put down 270hp to the rear wheels on the dyno.

— October 2011: New front hood struts, upper radiator hose, coolant/water pump connector, O-ring, coolant flush, brake fluid flush.

— December 2010: PFC rear brake pads, brake fluid flush, oil and filter change, new front brake rotors.

— June 2010: Water pump, timing belt, counter balance belt, timing roller bearing and idler bearing, counter balance roller and idler bearing, thermostat kit, upper and lower radiator hose, brake master cylinder, brake fluid flush, reman Bosch starter, oil and filter change, coolant flush, power steering fluid flush, r-12 freon, new spark plugs, and more – total bill $3543.31.

As you can see this car has been meticulously maintained and serviced with all the major and minor services done and some good upgrades performed for performance while keeping the car original. A very clean car with all original paint, no damage or accident history, and great service history.

While this is a nice example of a Turbo S, the price is out of line with current 944 values. True, this car has some upgrades and a decent amount of money was invested in maintenance, but that doesn’t change the fact that realistically, this is a $15,000 car, give or take. The Turbo S is a rare piece, with 718 examples sold in the US. For those who think the standard 944 is a bit soft and want something harder edged, the Turbo S certainly fits the bill.

-Paul

1989 Porsche 944S2

Whenever I’m talking Porsches with fellow gearheads and the topic comes around to the 944, I usually am greeting with more sneers than cheers. Most enthusiasts will always favor the 911 more no matter what, but the 944 offers a bit more practicality and sure footed handling at a more affordable price. Later model 944s are the ones to seek out, like this 1989 S2 with the 16 valve engine for sale in Philadelphia.

1989 Porsche 944S2 on eBay

Rare red 5-speed manual Porsche 944. Dual overhead cam 16V 3.0L. Low Mileage vehicle. Power windows, leather interior, moonroof, books and manuals. Original rims. The car has been inspected by our mechanic. We will take trade-ins.

You are looking at an exceptionally well kept, great looking luxury Porsche 944 S2, one of the finest series. This car says a lot about its owner, and has been renowned in the world as a symbol of prestige and class, as well as having great performance. The vehicle has been made and assembled entirely in Germany. It’s been very well kept and serviced, in fact it runs like a new car. It’s painted in a great looking bright Guards RED color which adds a lot of luxury and sporty appeal to it.

Porsche 944 car was raced around the world and in the British championship called the Porsche Motorsport Championship. Production was limited to three years; 1989, 1990 and 1991. Judging by the miles and the condition of the car, it has been mostly used on the highway and it has also been garage kept! There are no reported manufacturer’s defects on this vehicle. A never-smoked-in before beauty that looks great and smells clean.

The engine is one of the most powerful in the segment – runs strong and smooth provides the power you have come to expect from a Porsche. In 1989 the 944S2 was introduced, powered by a 211 PS (155 kW; 208 hp) normally aspirated, dual-overhead-cam 16-valve 3.0L version of the 944S engine. The transmission has the Porsche mark on it as well and shifts like on a new car. The car runs great! The engine compartment is clean, and free of any leeks. All the electrical options appear to be in working order.

As you can judge for yourself from the pictures – the interior is clean. This Porsche is equipped with a climate control system and the AC blows ice-cold. The power locks, windows (and all the other electrical features) all work and are in excellent condition.

As seen in the pictures the rims look good, with fresh looking finish while the tires have plenty of tread left. An original spare tire can be found in the trunk. As you can see from the pictures, there are NO door dings or small dents or anything of the kind. The exterior and interior are clean. Not many of those 944 S2 were made for the US, this is your chance to own a truly unique luxurious coupe painted in sporty racing RED that stands out. It’s obviously been garage kept, and is in great condition.

This 944 is priced roughly $5,000 above what it is realistically worth. These later 944s with between 50,000 to 100,000 typically will bring somewhere between $11,000 to $15,000 all day long. Recently, a 1988 944 Turbo S with under 1,000 miles brought over $82,000 at the Gooding & Company auction at Amelia Island. But only 1,000 Turbo S models were ever brought to the US and Amelia Island is the kind of place where the well monied come to play. That sale price is an anomaly amongst 944 values.

-Paul