In Support of my recent Quattro Criticism

I recently wrote up a dubious Ur-Quattro with a 20v turbo swap but some significant cosmetic work needed for a shocking 17 grand. I didn’t feel great criticizing the seller so harshly, it’s not my nature, but the ad gave me all the wrong signals, supported by an overconfident asking price. I looked a little deeper over on eBay and found two reasonably-priced Audis that, with a little legwork, could provide the basis for a cheaper, less sketchy project than the $17k UrQ with more blemishes than a non-showering teenager.

First up, the base car. A 1985 Ur Quattro in impressively clean condition after a strong 205,000 miles sitting around $7.5k on eBay. It still runs well, but that can’t last too long with that amount of miles.

So once those 200k miles catch up with the UrQ, you’ve got this 1990 Quattro with only 84k miles but a bunk transmission/differential to be the donor. The seller just wants to get rid of it and has it on sale locally for $2,400. Besides the mechanical gremlins the car is in beautiful condition, and could be parted out to the owner of a less-pretty Quattro for at least the initial cost.

Throw the 20v from the ’90 into the UrQ and you’ve created one great, low-mileage Quattro swap from two that are struggling, AND with a beautiful Coupe Quattro roller to sell. You’ll have to find a good Audi guy to do that swap for you, but hopefully it will live up to the old adage about VWAG swaps being akin to playing with legos. All told you’re about $10k invested in the cars, which gives plenty of room to get the swap done before you get anywhere close to the $20k investment needed for the sketchy one posted earlier.

It’ll take some legwork, space, and time, but so would getting the red one in good shape, and you’ll have the confidence of having overseen the swap yourself.

-NR

2004 Audi Allroad just in time

I’m back near Seattle, Washington for Thanksgiving with my family and landed just as a snow storm blanketed the Pacific Northwest. While the front-wheel drivers are still making it around, it’s looking like they’ll be rendered inadequate very soon. With this in mind, my thoughts turned to all-wheel drive, namely Quattro and what I would love as a serious winter machine, the Audi Allroad. Their faults are known, but with great styling and impressive versatility, I’m willing to overlook them.

As I mentioned before, these cars are not without their flaws. A friend’s had the air suspension go totally haywire, as well as the various electrical afflictions this generation of Audis can have. What made this one stick out to me was the lack of miles and the fact that the air suspension has already been addressed. It’s apparent (and stated) that this car has been well taken care of and is ready to go for the new owner. Maintenance down the road will obviously be Audi-rific, but I think this is about as good a place to start as any when it comes to the Allroad. Apparently listed at $16,950 at the dealership, it’s on eBay at $9k now with a Buy-it-Now of $13,900. 4-wheel drive luxury pulling up to Depreciation Station, wish I had a ticket!

As the flurries intensify, so do my dreams of dominating the snowy roads in an Allroad, empty except for a few Subarus, Audis, and a couple overzealous SUVs stuck in the ditch.

-NR

1983 Audi Ur-Quattro for sale (dangerously close to me)

Here’s a great way to contextualize the amazing Audi Quattro Concept unveiled at the Paris Auto Show. I work about 5 minutes from where this awesome Audi Ur-Quattro is for sale, and I at least have to go check it out (at most, lie/beg/cheat/steal to buy it). Until the Concept becomes reality, the Ur just can’t be beat when it comes to the Quattro. Straight off a Group B stage, boxed fenders and the turbo inline-5 mean serious business. Some title issues and reported damage should be investigated, but 105k miles is temptingly low for the original and irreplaceable implementation of Quattro.

The disappointingly brief seller’s explanation:

1983 Quatrro Coupe, good mechanical condition, just past smog, 5 cylinder turbo, 5 speed, european headlights and grill, white faced quages with additional gauge package, H&R springs, stainless exhaust system, wider Ronnal wheels. Runs good, but needs an alignment due to recent suspension work. Paint is tired but presentable, interior is the same. Some cracks on dash top. Removable sunroof, a/c, power windows, breaks, steering. A/C works, but needs a charge.

This is one of those times when the alignment and title issues fade a bit when you have the chance to pick up a rare piece of history. It’s for sale at $7500; if the issues can be resolved and keep it under $10k, I’ve gotta think that’s a good deal for a low-mileage Ur-Quattro. So close, yet so far away…

-NR

Clean, low-mile 1991 Audi 200 Avant

There’s just something awesome about wagons with a manual. Quattro and turbo make it a truly special wagon. Today we have an impressively clean Audi 200 from the O.G. unintended-acceleration era, looking as fine as ever. The sumptuous interior surprised me, demonstrating that Audi’s been doing the good-interior thing for a long time. With only 85k miles on this hauler, it’s got quite a few more years of being funky and awesome left in it.

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From the seller:

The Classic Car Gallery is proud to offer this iconic 1991 Audi 200 Avant. This 217 hp turbocharged, 5 cylinder, all wheel drive wagon is one of only 200 imported into the country, and had a sticker price of more than $40,000 in 1991!!! This rare car was the sportiest wagon of its day, and is quick even by contemporary standards. The car has 85,271 miles, and is in very nice condition. The original white paint shows well, with good shine and depth, and few blemishes. The beige tan leather interior is in excellent condition, the leather is supple and shows little wear. At 60,000 miles, the car received a full service, including new Bilstein heavy duty struts and shock, conversion to conventional twin piston front calipers, new wheel bearings, and drive axles. All of this work was done by a licensed Audi technician. A new clutch and rear main seal were installed at that time. Recently, a new Mass Airflow sensor was installed. The engine runs well, doesn’t smoke, and makes great turbocharged horsepower!!! The 5 speed manual transmission shifts as it should, and the clutch works correctly. The car has a high end Alpine sound system installed. She runs on a set of BBS rims and NEW Toyo Proxes tires. Now For the bad. The A/C does not work, and the right rear window does not work (we think it’s a switch), in the car is missing a piece of trim above the front grill, and there is some minor surface rust on the underside of the car. Otherwise this car is ready to go. This 2 owner car comes with some records, books, and the original window sticker. With winter fast approaching, now is the time to purchase this sporty, iconic all wheel drive vehicle.

That last sentence about covers it for me. The engine bay is the dirtiest bit, but that 20V TURBO label shines through. It’s nicely stock now, but if I went for it I’d take it slightly OEM+ to make it slightly less awkward-looking. Overall though, it’s got all of the right pieces that make an awesome wagon.
-NR

Very rare, very clean Audi Quattro Treser

Today we have a fantastic reader submission with many thanks to Valerio for finding this very rare, very cool, and amazingly well-kept Audi. I am quite a fan of the Quattro, as boxed fenders are just about my favorite styling element of all time and I’m quite enamored with AWD and Audi in general. Valerio’s tip points to a little-known piece of Audi history involving the head of Audi’s rally team, Walter Treser. More can be read here, but essentially the rally boss went on to sell aftermarket offerings for Audis, here including bodywork, wheels, engine improvements and a nice black interior. Adding to the specialness of this car is an amazingly low mileage of 35k, obviously having been owned with an eye towards future collectibility. It’s a very rare, very 80s-tastic improvement on the venerable Quattro, even foreshadowing the style of the later 90-based Coupe Quattro.

1984 Audi Quattro Treser for sale on Classic Driver

Some of the owner’s description:

This Treser UR Quattro is a two owner car which has covered a mere 35, 800 miles from new in the hands of two owners. It has been in the current ownership since 2005, since when just 3000 miles have been covered and it is stored in a heated and dehumidified garage when not in use. It has only ever been used in fine weather.

Finished in metallic black with Treser full black leather interior and high-back, rally style Recaro sports interior, the car is equipped with a host of other Treser options, which include 250bhp engine with high lift camshaft, big valves, a 8 port metering head, larger intercooler and a special airbox. The body has Treser wrap-around rear spoiler, front apron and Treser alloys road wheels, which are now shod with new Michelin TRX tyres.

A Treser UR Quattro is a rarity in itself but an example with just 35,800 miles on the clock and only two owners form new must be unique. It is taxed and mot’d and currently in daily use by ourselves! This car has to be seen to be believed.

The wheels and the wrap-around wing just add to the Quattro’s very epoch-specific styling and the cache of having it be an ultra-rare edition drenched in Audi history is great. Add to that an nicely warmed over 250-hp engine and this thing has some serious grunt to back up the unique looks. If you can get over the babied-low miles (or right-hand drive), it has to be a TON of fun. At 17,677 Euros, or about $23,600, this seems like an awesome deal. Shame it’s in Britain.

-NR

Clean and lower-mile 1990 Audi Coupe Quattro for sale

I’ve expressed my enjoyment of the Audi Coupe Quattro, a loveable nugget of a coupe packing all-wheel drive and a little 20V 5-cylinder.  It’s maybe not the most extreme Audi, but it does a lot of things well.  It looks good, if a little less taught than the ur-Quattro.  It should handle decently with some fun factory go-fast bits and a manual tranny.  And though a little coupe, it’ll get you where you need to go with all four wheels turning.  Every once in a while a nice example pops up, and this is a great, updated but unabused example from Utah.

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From the seller:

Garage kept, Summer driver, low miles 97,636. The car has many upgrades from engine, intake, exhaust, new ecu, suspension, wheels, brand new tires, paint, tint, stereo and so much more. I have a set of the original speedline wheels with tires, original air box,radio,and other misc parts. This has been a amazing car. You wont find too many out there like this.

Going to need some more investigation with a brief description like that, but this Quattro has a lot going for it.  It’s clean in and out, and the sub-100k miles is a very positive place to start.  I like the black molding instead of the singular exterior color a lot of these have, and the great Borbets are very fitting.  The one holdup here is the price; $7500 seems like a bit rich to start bidding for this 20 year-old Audi spacenugget, but perhaps further investigation will show that it’s even nicer than the ad suggests. -NR

Nearly Identical Audi RS6s for sale

So, you’ve got $32k and you’re ready for a new car. You want fun, but somewhat sensible. You like AWD and its many virtues. You’re inclined to enjoy the German flare for speed, class, and impeccable engineering. From these hints, I could point you to a brand-new VW R32. Fun car, all-season capability with AWD, German quirks and perfection abound.

Or you could go big. And I mean REAL big. 450-hp, earth-wrenching big. The Audi RS6 is one of the few RSs that we Staters have been blessed with, and man do I love it. It’s subtle, but the aggressive bits are there in the wheels, fenders, and front and rear fascias. It’s hiding a total monster of a twin-turbo 4.2L V8. And now, 7 years after their introduction, they’ve come down in price.  Way down, like 50-60% down.  There are 2 nearly identical examples on eBay, each in the 50k mile-range and in exceptional condition. One has a Buy-It-Now of $32k, one is under reserve at $16k.

2003 Audi RS6 with 56k miles for sale on eBay

2003 Audi RS6 with 51k miles for sale on eBay

Yes, yes, I know these will be more expensive to maintain than an R32 (but maybe not that much…), and that a used car is not equal to a new car.  In my mind, getting a lot more car for your money is well worth it instead of going on the depreciation rollercoaster that is new-car buying.  It’s a tough decision between these two, but something about the white interior seems a little more special, so I’d sit on that auction and try to get it at a good price.  If it could come in under the $32k of the other one, all the better.  But seriously, one of these beasts under $40k is still a ton of car per dollar.

-NR

Clean & Cheap 2003 Audi Allroad for sale

If you’re looking for a car that can do it all, you’d be hard-pressed to something more versatile than the Audi Allroad Quattro.  Though still sold around the world based on the newer A6, we only got them in the US from 1999-2005, but I consider us lucky for getting it at all.  Based on the classy C5 A6, it was imbued with inherent luxury with a great interior and commanding presence.  There was plenty of sportiness to tap into, with the 2.7L twin-turbo V6 shared with the S4 providing ample, if not earth-shattering, power, and an adjustable suspension that could lower enough to mimic a sport-package A6.  Speaking of that adjustable suspension, it could also lift the Allroad to create 8 inches of ground clearance.  The advanced suspension combined with the legendary Quattro allowed the Allroad to be the only car-based SUV to complete an official Land Rover off-road course, which I think is totally awesome.  So, it’s sporty, luxurious, quite capable off-road and has tons of wagon-space.  Yep, awesome.

This clean example on eBay used to be a corporate car, and has thus covered only 78k miles.  It has a few dings and scratches, but they’re all minor and  quickly fade away when you see the Buy-It-Now of just $8500.  That’s less than a fifth of what it sold for 7 years ago.

I think this is a total steal.  You have to be careful with these Allroads for electrical problems and issues with the fancy suspension, but still: you are getting a ton of car, and an impressively multi-faceted car at that, for a great price.  It being a corporate car, it’s probably been well taken care of.  I’d prefer the manual, but those are extremely rare, and I’m just getting nitpicky.  Go anywhere and look good doing it, for these cars are truly ready to dominate all roads.

-NR

Low-mileage 1990 Audi Coupe Quattro for sale

I was driving behind one of these the other day and was reminded of how cool these funky little coupes are.  Depending on the angle and mood, they can look like bloated space pods or excitable rally monsters.  Sightings are rare as only 1730 came to the US, and this is an great example with a mere 55k miles covered.

It’s not perfect, but the pearl white looks really good here, and a few small upgrades (wheels, suspension) would make this a very attractive little car.  The interior and engine compartment are in great shape and the low mileage is a huge plus, but asking nearly $10k is a bit much.  The last one I posted was half that, albeit with twice the miles.  I’d much rather spend $5k on a 110k mile car than $10k on a 55k mile car.

1990 Audi V8 Quattro for Sale

A very low-mileage Audi V8 Quattro is up on eBay with 20 days left at a Buy-It-Now or Best Offer price of $6500.  This was the predecessor to the A8, offering a 3.6L 247hp V8.  Weak by today’s standards, but not too shabby in 1990.  It was also the only full-size sedan with AWD at time and came with a galvanized body, so rust shouldn’t be a problem.

I think the big selling point here is the extremely low 41k miles.   It’s no Ur-S4 or S6, but $6500 for a fun, big AWD sedan is not too bad at all.

-NR