Looking for a Porsche 944 Turbo S For Sale?

Richard left a message that he was looking for a pristine 944 Turbo S for sale, and I’ve found a couple that might be worth taking a look at that are available right now!

Porsche 944 Turbo S Silver Rose For Sale

Limited Edition – Silver Rose
Low Production Count ( 500 Silver Rose )
Fastest – This was produced with the Turbo CUP Specification
Low Miliage – 51076
Garage kept (with cover)
Unique Interior – most are leather – this is Plaid Cloth.
Only mod I know about is the race suspension which makes it a little lower and tighter than stock.
Fire Extinguisher – added
Very thick custom car cover included.
Tires – like new. About 2k miles on it.
Engine – Strong and fast. Runs Perfect.
Drives solid. No rattles


A rare 1988 Porsche 944 (951S) Turbo S on Craigslist South Florida for $16500

1988 Porsche 944 Turbo For Sale in South Florida

The mileage is 86,600 original miles, exterior is black and interior is beige. I have all the original maintenance receipts from certified Porsche shops. The car has been garaged all of its life so the original paint is immaculate. I purchased the car from the original owner and have all of the books, records and the original window sticker.


Hope that helps Richard. Take care,

dc

1992 Porsche 911 964 Carrera Cup Car, 1 of 45 Legal Cars in the U.S.

Here is a really rare opportunity for 964 series Porsche 911 fans to own what is described as a thinly veiled 964 RS — that never came to our shores. Luckily the .

Obviously only hard-core collectors need to take notice as even 965 Turbos go for less than half of this. But the RS and Cup cars could be compared to the GT3 models of today, which are considered the “drivers” tool of choice.

The owner of this car points to the CarreraCupUSA.org site which has all the details on what makes this car special, including this great article from Excellence detailing the nuances that make this car special. Cliff Notes:

  • Very unusual import procedure made these cars road legal. All 45 were intended for a race series that never got off the ground. They were modified by Andial to compete in the race series, but when the series went bust, they were converted back to road cars, which were U.S. legal, and sold.
  • Basically a U.S. legal version of the 1992 964 RS, plus some factory modifications for racing, minus some of the trick bits that made the RS a great road car.
  • Crazy 964 fanatics like myself put a ridiculous value on these cars due to their story and rarity.

You can put this car under my Powerball fantasy winning picks as usual. In the meantime, check out these 964 Carrera Cup resource pages:

February 2004 Excellence magazine article, “America’s Cup”
Great side by side comparison of RS and Carrera Cup stats on p-cars – plus it features an example of $89,000. Who knows how old this reference is…
Porsche 964 Wikipedia entry

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Mercedes 560 SEC Coupes, 6.0 AMG

Being a Mercedes guy, I’ve always liked the 560sec and its siblings of the same body style. Here are several all up right now on eBay.


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The body on this one has 292,390, but it has only 50,000 since a full restoration. The ad doesn’t say much about the 6.0, but the valve covers look genuine. Seller says all the documentation from Renntech is available. Pretty subtle for having an AMG engine, transmission, headers and rear end.


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Here we go, this is a GREAT opportunity. Rarely do you find a decent vehicles listed on eBay at a low opening bid AND no reserve. A 55,000 mile 560 that looks amazing up for sale with the public setting the market price. This is fantastic if it was a standard 560 SEC, but this is a grey market car with an AMG body package. So you get the nice Euro headlights and the sculpted bodywork. Don’t miss getting a bid in on this one, someone could snag a real deal if this one goes under the radar on eBay. Probably not the smartest move for me to post this here since I’ll probably throw a bid in on this myself, but I’d like to see what the market sets itself at. If this was a later model, year I’d say if it didn’t breach $10k it would be undersold.


1991 Mercedes 560SEC white
Here is a white one that the seller claims is a multiple show winner. I’m sure it is nice, but a 100,000 mile, 1991 model year car, in stock form must not have much competition in its class at whatever shows he’s entering it in. The car does look good and is nice that it has service records, but you can almost be sure that the ask for the car is going to be over priced just by the way the seller is describing it.


1986 560SEC 1 owner
I just put this one in because I always find older 1 owner cars intriguing. Being the 2nd owner on a vehicle that has a long history with its original owner can mean some neat stories and a chance to really know the car’s past. This 160k mile car is a California delivery vehicle so a buyer is going to want to look out for extra smog gear restricting the engine.

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1988 560SEC fixer

And this is for the handyman looking for a bit of a challenge. Chances are you can talk the owner down from the $1875 ask. Sadly I think you’d have to go down on price to find a taker, but then you get close to part it out territory as the parts become worth more off the car. Who wants to save this one?

~Evan

Cash For Clunkers CARnage

I figured this being a car blog it was somewhat necessary to at least give brief mention of the CARS Car Allowance Rebate System or Cash For Clunkers program. By now most of America is probably familiar with the deal. You readers as car folks also probably understand that upon turning your car in for a credit the car is scrapped, regardless of how much life is left in the vehicle. What I think is important to underline is that scrapped doesn’t mean the engine gets pulled out and parts reused. Jalopnik covered this issue. In this case the government insists the engines are destroyed using a sodium silicate solution (liquid glass), that is poured into the running engine after the oil is drained. This locks up the motor and makes salvaging it useless.

I don’t want to get preachy or go into more details here, there are plenty of other places online where you can do that, but I do find this program a shameful waste, full of economical, environmental, and practical pitfalls. I’ve seen a number of BMWs and Benzs meet their fate in this past week. Including several big bodied 500 series Benzs that easily were worth more than the credit given. The financial incentive has made less loyal car owners sacrifice fine automobiles or be forced into doing so by significant others. See this ad for a 1988 BMW M5 that needs saving for example.

Regardless of your own thoughts on the program or political views, below I give some examples of what this program has brought that should sadden you as gear heads and folks who are going to have to pay jacked up used part prices.

So pour out a quart of 40 weight for the fallen. If you find photos or videos of German vehicles to add to this hall of shame let us know.

I know this one isn’t German, I wanted to ease you into this post, give you a chance to back out in case you want to avoid the carnage. This does illustrate pretty well the nonsense of where tax payer money is being spent:

BMW 530i manual, so sad.

BMW 735i

BMW 525

1991 and 1992 525i

1986 Mercedes 300E

Fortunately their are some folks out there with good sense
Mercedes 1992 190E 2.3

There are many, many, other engine blow up videos like these from dealerships participating in the cash4clunkers program out on the net. Googler beware.

~Evan

1981 Porsche 928 Strosek Widebody, Low mileage 928, & Audi 200 Trans Am

I see a good deal of 928s for sale, there are two reasons for this. One, Porsche made them for nearly two decades and two, because I look for Audi S4s so every time I search for S4 I come across Audis and Porsches. Because there are so many in the market picking one up is not very hard. $10k will get you a plenty nice one. Just remember that, while they looked fairly similar over that long run, the options changed over the years. Flavors of engines included 4.5, 4.7, 5.0, and 5.4, liter V8s.
Transmissions could be had in 3 and 4 speed auto or 5 speed manual.

A early 80s twenty thousand dollar 928 would normally have even fewer miles on it then the 46,000 on this machine. This one has reason to be an exception. It appears to have a super clean body kit, custom interior work, and performance engine tuning including cams and headers. Not to mention the seller says he’ll throw in $15,000 worth of extra goodies like a GPS nav, to tune up, detailing and more. Seems reasonable to me.

If 46,000 miles is a bit too high for you why not make an offer on this 1,484 mile 1978. Offered at $35,000 (reserve not met), this can only be for a collector. Great interior and even has the original window sticker. Knowing that every time you drove the car you’d be decreasing its value is tough. Just keeping the car garage bound when this 911 beater should be out roaming the back country is sad. As the slogan, picked up from another car club, goes, Garages Kill. Letting a car sit is not good for it and once parts start to deteriorate and have to be replaced you’ve lost the originality and not been able to enjoy driving the car, lose-lose. On the other hand it is nice to be able to show such an original vehicle.

1989 Audi Quattro 200 Trans-Am ex Hurley Haywood

Finally just to mix it up a bit this is the car that Hurley Hawyood used during the run to the Trans-Am Championship. The early Audi Quattro racers were pretty much bad ass in every form of racing they entered, hill climb, rally, trans am, etc. This one comes several years after the monster 600 horse power Group B Quattro S1, but clearly shares the blood lines and technology. The unique turbo charged inline 5 in this vehicle likely isn’t as powerful as the Group B car, but should certainly be bumping out over 500 ponies at full boost. The price is on request, probably somewhere north of a few dozen well used A4s. This would make a great SVRA or SCCA entry. For now it sits as a show piece at a casino.

I wasn’t able to confirm this from the dealer, but someone tells me this car may have just sold after being for sale for over a year at $450,000.

~Evan

Gray Market Goodness: 500E, 190 2.3-16, and CTR2

Some really tasty gray market goodies are for sale online right now. I had to get these posted fast, so I’m putting them all together. Enjoy!

Mercedes-Benz Euro W124 500E 1992 For Sale at EuroClassicMotors.com for $42000

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quote from their website:

Model: Mercedes-Benz Euro W124 500E 1992 Anthracite Grey Metallic/Black
Features: Fully loaded, Rare onboard computer! (Similar to E34 M5 )
Mileage: 89K since new, second owner car, imported from Germany 1993 by the original owner all the DOT/EPA is done, Currently the new home is Los Angeles area.
Availability: CURRENTLY FOR SALE $42000- call/email.
Technical Data: This is legendary M119 engine, Euro spec is 326hp 354 nm / 261.1 ft lbs @ 4900 rpm.
Exhaust: Custom made from the headers all the way to the Remus, the sound is awesome !!!
Soon will have dyno test on the car, estimated around 356hp at the crank…
Suspension: Koni yellow sport (adjustable).
Brakes: High-performance double-drilled and slotted rotors with high performance brake pads.
Transmission: Is set to start from 1st gear every time and
operates very sensitively in downshift mode with no lock moment… The result is impressive!
Differential: 2.47 LSD (Limited Slip Differential)
Wheels: 19” inch AMG (style) Front 245 35 19 Rear 275/30/19.

Is this the finest W124 500E for sale… anywhere?! It sure looks like it, and duplicating this car would surely cost more than the asking price. Make sure to check out their website which has probably 100 images on it. This car is beautiful!


1985 Mercedes 190 2.3-16 For Sale1985 Mercedes 190 2.3-16 For Sale1985 Mercedes 190 2.3-16 For Sale

quote from eBay listing:

This is the one! Anthracite gray with black leather interior, 5-speed manual with the higher horsepower, higher compression european spec engine. 75k miles and very tight. Very good to excellent condition throughout.

Yes, this is a 1985 model and that means it was produced for the European market and imported here. In the case of the Cosworth 190E, this means that this car has higher horsepower (185hp vs 167hp), torque and compression ratio.

This is a really nice example of a very desirable and collectible car. This is not a show car, but it certainly is in much better than average condition and has a relatively low 75,000 miles on it. It is probably too nice to take racing — even though it is a race car — but could make a great base for a project street car. Or do like me and just drive it! I have driven a lot of Mercedes in my life and this is the only one that really feels like a sports car. It’s nimble handling, high revving Cosworth engine and great exhaust note make this car a blast to drive. Please come buy it before I get into trouble!

• 75,000 Miles
• Five-speed transmission
• 4-cylinder 2.3 liter engine

I like the opening bid of $8000 and the honesty of this listing. While not quite as nice as this example posted a while back, the combination of European specification, recent respray, and very good miles, make me think this is a great example for an enthusiast. I wish I was in the market right now, I’d bid!


1997 Porsche Ruf CTR2 Sport for Sale at SunsetClassics.com

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quote from their website:

We have an exceptional Yellowbird Yellow 1997 Porsche Ruf CTR-2 Sport for sale. This RUF was the fastest production car in the world in 1997. This ultra rare Porsche Ruf CTR2 Sport ranks right up there with Ferrari’s F50 and Jaguar’s XJ220. The CTR2’s air-cooled engine whips out an impressive 580HP with 0-60 times under 4 seconds, and a blistering top speed of 217mph! There were only 16 of these street legal super cars made from 1995-1997 so this is obviously a really rare chance at owning a piece of automotive history. Not to mention it is one wicked car to drive.

This is the fastest car I’ve ever ridden in, and we didn’t even juice it anywhere near its full potential. This particular car was featured in the February 1998 issue of European Car magazine when it was owned by the previous owner Steve Beddor. This car has only 8k original miles since new, a beautiful sounding Blaupunkt stereo system and looks to kill. You are looking at a very fine investment opportunity for any Porsche enthusiast – and one fun sports car that craves some hard driving.

Not much needs to be said here. An opportunity like this doesn’t come along very often, and it’s appears to be titled! The real deal, not a conversion, and has only 8k miles. I’ve always said that I think the 993 series was the last of the real Porsche 911’s and this one is the ultimate tuner car of it’s generation. Sure it’s a Powerball fantasy for most of us, but if my ticket hits, this guy’s phone is going to blow up the next day! Make sure to click through and check out all the images they have and bunch of videos too.

dc

Volkswagen Corrado, Affordable, Fun, Collectible

There are a good number of VW Corrados out there for the taking, in all different flavors, aftermarket blower 1.8s, turbocharged 2.0 liters, bone stock 2.8 VR6s, etc. For those non-Volkswagen aficionados out there, let me remind you that before the narrow angle VR6 came along the Corrado was offered with a G60 engine package that left the factory with a supercharged 4 cylinder. The G standing in German for G-lader, describing the G shaped scroll type supercharger. Not a bad setup and being able to say your car has a supercharger is almost always a cool selling point. The engine won International Engine of the Year in 1989. Plus they had ads like this:

When I was younger a customized VR6 Corrado was one of the favorites amongst the European tuner kids to go up against the Japanese imports. For this post I stuck with VR6 models, but if you do some looking on your own you’ll find some nice G60 models out there as well. I went looking and found matching models on Craigslist and eBay for you with this post. A blue, a black, and a red, from each site.

1990 VW Corrado with goodies on Craigslist.

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This custom take on the Corrado seems to be a work in progress. A later model VR6 engine is in the car and some extra parts are included. Seller has $20k invested and is looking for $12k. I say work in progress as the seller also mentions that there is no radio and a few bits still need finishing. Though it is pretty nice looking I don’t think it will realize $12k unfinished and even then that seems high. Perhaps the amusing vanity license plate number adds value.

Black 1993 Corrado VR6 SLC on Craigslist
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A good reason why I think the blue Corrado above is overpriced is this black, quite original looking example. 81k on the clock, original paint, and a still functioning rear wing, all for $3600. When the cash for clunkers program is offering $4500 rebates, this is a lot of car for the money right here. This is likely the deal of the bunch.

Red 1993 Corrado VR6 SLC on Craigslist


The west coast sure has the Corrado Craigslist market wrapped up. If black isn’t your color here is a red version. I wouldn’t normally list two cars with such high miles in one post unless they were really special, but perhaps the great photos struck my fancy with this 153,000 mile one. $4995 will get you a 5 speed, black leather, Speedline wheels, and a Neuspeed chip.

This Corrado features a Jetta engine, fancy headlights, and some other personalized touches. Another seller who also wants to make sure you know the rear wing works. Not the best looking of the bunch.

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The other high mile car of the group. Vanity plates strike again on this 158,000 mile model. A younger VR6 resides inside. It looks like about $4000 will get you this one, which appears loved.


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Keeping up the pattern of this post of identical models on Craigslist and eBay, a very good looking, lower mileage red 93 SLC recently ended on eBay unsold with bids up to $6200. Keep an eye out for it to be relisted.

The Corrado is a future collectible, maybe not so much as early M3s or 190E 16Vs, but nice examples are going to start rising in value. The difficulty is finding ones of collector grade withoriginal engine and paint, let alone low miles. Many Corrado owner’s have swapped in later versions of the VR6 to replace a thrashed original. The sporty, nimble (the G60 was lighter than the VR6),vehicle already has a good following of fans, with several Corrado clubs. VR6 models are bound to be less troublesome than G60s and there are plenty of VR6 parts around.

~Evan

A few nice custom 930 Porsches, sublime or ridiculous

****UPDATE**** 9/14/09
It was brought to our attention by a reader that the yellow widebody Porsche listed below has some discrepancies with VIN #s and seller legitimacy. If you see this Porsche listed proceed with care.

There is something about a 930 Porsche that just feels right. Nice proportions, fine performance, and fewer/simpler electronic gizmos than more modern 911s. They have that great Porsche sound. Really a work horse and driver’s car for the 80s Porsche enthusiast. I put 930 Porsche’s in that category of car that offers a pure driving experience in a package that begs to get out on the road rain or shine. Not quite the same as the new GT3 your neighbor owns that will never see its true potential as it only gets out of the garage on the trip to the golf course and even then only on cloudless days.

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Prices seem very solid and stable for good 930s. This shows positively on how collectors view these models. $15k should get you an almost daily driver worthy Porsche, that you can enjoy most of the year (year round down south), and that you could probably sell in a few years for what you paid. The $25k ask for this Gemballa in need of work seems a bit high, particularly when for a tick over $20k and a Strosek bodied 1986 sold at $20k. 1977 Porsche 930 slantnose1986 Porsche 930 Strosek

eBay is notorious for making it hard to sell damaged cars for decent prices. An auction format is supposed to show true market value, but I rarely see auctions for damaged cars like this, that have a seller’s reserve actually complete successfully. On the other hand someone else is out there asking .

1985 Porsche 930 Turbo Widebody

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Along the lines of the Flachbau or slantnose, you have to admire a car company that offered the option to the customer to completely alter the appearance of their car straight from the factory. This one with a widebody kit is bid up to $15k and it sure is wide. I hope the spindles are strong enough to take such a wide stance, with 50k on the clock I’d say things are ok. From the seller:

1985 PORSCHE TURBO 935 GAMBELLA [sic] SLANT NOSE , CARBON FIBER WING, KINISES WHEELS, MICHELIN PILOTS, KOKELN TURBO, KOKELN INTERCOOLER, 500 HP, CUSTOM YELLOW INTERIOR, THE WIDEST , COOLEST , TURBO I’VE EVER SEEN, FAST!! SHOW WINNER!!

Do you have other examples of German models that offered such dramatic bodystyle changes as factory options? BMW should have provided an option to de-Bangleify the E65 7 series.

1978 Porsche Kremer Turbo 3.5L

1978 Porsche 930 Turbo

And finally at the uber high end of the spectrum is this listing at $99,500 from Windsor Specialty Auto Sales in California. The car is also listed in Hemmings. From the seller:

This 1978 Porsche Turbo started as an early 3.3L, made its way to DP Motorsports where it received a body, and to Kremer for some minor modifications and badging. Because this is an early car, it
is likely to be one of the first to get the Kremer/DP Motorsports “treatment”. The car has extensive modifications (see below) by S-Car-Racing that raise output to about 550 HP. It is being
offered as a track or show car.

The seller states they will ad more photos, I hope they do, I’d love to peek at the engine. I’m sure photos can be furnished for you serious buyers out there.

~Evan

1984 BMW 323i Pickup

There really isn’t much to say about this eBay oddity, other than it has to be overpriced.

The seller says:

Only 2 cars were authorized by BMW to be custom modified to pick up version.

I’d like to know more about what exactly that means. I’m not sure I can see the fine folks in Bavaria back in 1984 thinking “You know Rolf we really need to compete with the Subaru BRAT segment”.

1984 BMW 323i Pickup

It has some nice goodies from Hartge and Schrick, but I really can’t explain what they were going for with that paint job.

If this can really be documented as a factory BMW project its rarity might give it some added collector value. It is going to take a special someone to want to take this one home at $25k. Besides, I know Mercedes already locked up the German El Camino (or would that be Die Straße) bragging rights. Below photo from my archives.

Mercedes W116 Pickup

~Evan

1987 Mercedes 300 Wagon with AMG 6.0 litre twin cam motor

There are several Mercedes 300 Wagons in our neighborhood. I often think that if I had one I’d want to lower it an inch, put on period AMG monoblock rims, color match the lower panels, and upgrade to European spec headlights — which would make for a great family ride.

But this 300 wagon takes it to another level. It has the AMG 6L motor, 3 piece rims, and very rare body kit, to name a few of the tasteful and rare upgrades. Here is the majority of the seller’s listing from the eBay ad for this 300 AMG Wagon:

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quote from seller’s listing:

987 Mercedes 300 Wagon with AMG 6.0 litre twin cam motor, complete AMG car in excellent condition. I have owned this car for 13 years, originally from Canada a built for Mr Feingold I aquired the car through Renntech from Hartmuth, the car was in for a major service and Mr. Feingold decided to sell me the car after a $17000 complete service.

The exterior of the car is finished in a blue similar to Ferraris Tour de France, it has a complete AMG body kit including the 3 pc AMG wheels color keyed to the body, these wheels were recently refinished and sits on new Pirelli tires, Complete amg Mods, suspension, Exhaust, header, adj transmission, it is a real 6.0 motor and has had all services to date it runs outstanding has 44,000 kil. it has the 320 AMG speedo. The car has never sustained any damage, the paint is excellent with the acception of the front spoiler that has some minor rashing at the bottom corner, the front spoiler has air intakes for the cooling of the front brakes, it has never been tracked or abused I use the car once in a while when I need to take the kids somewhere and I need the seating for 7 it has the rear folding seat.

The interior is gray leather in excellent shape no dye work, suede dash, orthopedic driver and passenger seats, carpet not stained and door panels not cracked, and upgraded stereo with XM and I pod connection in the glove box, front and rear hidden K40 radar.

The car runs outstanding recent AC upgrade, Aligned and balanced, A real piece of AMG history

The starting bid for this car is $25000.

Many thanks to Ali for tipping us of to this great car!

If you have a suggestion for us, please email me: dan@motoringblogs.com

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