1992 Porsche 911 Carrera Cup

It would be easy to assume that the ’92 Carrera Cup USA was a turned up version of the RS America, but actually it shared more DNA with the European market Carrera RS. Porsche intended to continue the trend of its successful 944 Cup and 944 Turbo Cup support series races with a 911 Carrera Cup in the U.S., but after luring 45 buyers and converting 25 to full race spec by Andial funding for the series fell through. Many of the Andial-converted cars were then returned to full road-legal spec and the legend of these lightweight 911s has been circulating ever since.

he RSA was actually the least expensive 911 version in showrooms in the early 90s too, while the Cup was a substantial 20% premium. Why? Well, it was a lot more than just removing a few extra items. While the RS America lopped 70-odd pounds off a standard C2, the Carrera Cup was 200 lbs lighter. The Cup wore bigger 24mm 5-way adjustable front/ 18mm 3-way rear sway bars, stiffer progressive-rate springs that were 50mm front/45mm rear lower than a standard car, aluminum hubs, ball joint upper spring mounts, and Bistein rear shocks. The engine was the M64/03 rather than the RS America’s M64/01, and featured a lightweight flywheel, only one accessory belt, a remapped DME and solid rubber mounts to channel more of the extra power to the ground. The Cups had a lightweight battery and master electrical shutoff, along with a more simple carpet and rear shelf layout. The gearbox was also different, as the Cup for the G50/10 with longer first and second gears, hardened synchros and mounts, and a standard variable locking differential. Brakes? Yep, different too – the Cup wore Turbo calipers with 322mm front vented and cross-drilled rotors. They kept the standard retracting rear spoiler rather than the RS America’s fixed unit, but had no undercoating and thin glass as well. These were racers through-and-through. And today, they’re not cheap:

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1982 Porsche 911SC

Do you want to own a 1973 Carrera RS but can’t swing the purchase price of $600,000? Well, I might have a solution to you. This 1982 Porsche 911SC has the same cool blue wheels, Carrera script, and duck tail deck lid. Thats about it really. In fact, that ’73 RS and this ’82 SC aren’t even the same body. Those cars were longhoods, and this SC naturally is an impact bumper. But still, blue wheels, Carrera script, and duck tail! This car even has blue seatbelts! Now before you get ready to call me crazy down in the comment section, what if I told you this car was $570,000 cheaper than the RS?

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1992 Porsche 911 Carrera RS

While the US market had to settle for the RS America, a lightened low-option version of the Carrera 2, other markets enjoyed the full-on Carrera RS. The Carrera RS used the tried-and-true method of more power/less weight, combining a higher output version of the 964’s 3.6 liter flax-six with significant weight reduction – coming in 155 kg lighter than a standard Carrera 2 – to provide the sort of no frills performance that 911 enthusiasts had long craved since the original RS. Under the rear hood was the M64/03 rated at 260 horsepower which doesn’t sound like a lot by today’s numbers. But the lightweight RS made good use of all of them, proving itself not only to be a class-leading sports car but also one adept at racing in keeping with the 911’s heritage. Suspension was lowered half an inch and stiffened, while the limited-slip differential from the Turbo was borrowed. Power steering was dropped for a manual rack, and while there were packages to add back in road-going manners, this ultimately was a bare-bones racer at heart.

Some 2,276 964 Carrera RSs were made, with a fair chunk of those heading to the track. There were a limited group of these cars imported to the U.S. for a failed race series and a few more since 911 mania took off, but the bulk of production still lies in Europe, just like this ’92 being offered today from France:

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Motorsports Monday: 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS Lightweight

This is no backdated 3.2 Carrera. It’s not an RS tribute or any other of the many modified 911s we see that attempt to replicate this car. It isn’t even an RS Touring. This is the real deal. The Holy Grail for many Porsche enthusiasts: a 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS Lightweight.

We aren’t told much about it and a few of the interior pieces are not original, but it is otherwise a very nice example in the color combination of Tangerine over Black. The mileage too appears to be very low showing only 18,158 kilometers. Anyone interested will need to do a lot of homework to fill in all of the details, but what a car these are.

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1992 Porsche 911 Carrera RS

Rubystone Red (Sternrubin) might be the most love/hate of the well known Porsche colors. I imagine there are colors within Porsche’s extensive catalog that have been less liked overall, but those colors disappear rarely to be asked for again. Rubystone, while we don’t see it very often, does still come around as a PTS option on modern 911s, especially on the limited production high performance models like the GT3 RS and 911 R. And when it does it looks just as stunning as it did upon its debut. A lot of buyers might not like it, but whatever its qualities, on cars that deserve a bold attention-grabbing color it’s a color that performs exactly that function.

Of course, it was on just such a model that it debuted: the 964 Carrera RS. We did not get the Carrera RS in the US market, but rather had to settle for the more tame RS America. With the passing of time it is now legal to import the true Carrera RS and we’ve seen quite a few over the past year or so. Here we have another one, fully restored and looking nearly immaculate, in that eye-popping color of Rubystone Red.

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Motorsports Monday: 1992 Porsche 911 Carrera RS NGT

I’ve got a couple of very interesting and rarely seen 964s to start this week. Both, of course, are fairly expensive (well, in one case very expensive) and both showcase models not originally made available in the US market.

We’ll begin with this: a 1992 Porsche 911 Carrera RS NGT. Any Porsche enthusiast will be familiar with the Carrera RS. Whether you’re familiar with the 964 Carrera RS or not, the model itself is well known and follows the tried and true formula of combining more power with less weight to produce a wonderful performance-oriented 911. Less familiar is the RS NGT, a model that took the weight loss program of the standard RS a few steps further. So while we might think of the Carrera RS as a track-focused 911 you can enjoy on the street, the NGT really is more of a track car. The interior is fully stripped of all comforts (instead of carpets you get plywood floors!) and a full roll cage welded in place. Additional features like a long-range fuel tank, fire extinguisher, and external cut off further separate these cars from your standard RS. 290 were produced.

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Paint-to-Sample Lemon Yellow 1992 Porsche 911 Carrera RS

I’ve been looking at a few yellow 911s over the past week and if we add in Carter’s Speed Yellow 968 then these bright yellow Porsches have been a little bit of a theme. I’m going to raise the bar some now and while I know it’s tough to top the rarity of that 968 I think this one certainly tries its best. We’ll definitely be raising the bar on price.

Here we see a beautiful paint-to-sample Lemon Yellow 1992 Porsche 911 Carrera RS. I’ve featured a few examples of the Carrera RS lately as now that it has passed the 25 year waiting period I’ve seen them come up for sale more frequently. It is one of my all-time favorite 911s, perhaps even being my all-time favorite though that seems to change with the season. Regardless, they are spectacular machines and this looks to be a spectacular example.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: Lemon Yellow 1992 Porsche 911 Carrera RS at DJM Investments

Year: 1992
Model: 911 Carrera RS
Engine: 3.6 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 28,867 km (17,937 mi)
Price: Inquire

In 1992, Porsche produced a super-lightweight, rear-wheel-drive only version of the 964 dubbed Carrera RS for the European market only. It was based on Porsche’s 911 “Carrera Cup” race car and harked back to the 2.7 and 3.0 RS and RSR models. It featured a revised version of the standard engine, titled M64/03 internally, with an increased power output of 260 bhp (194 kW; 264 PS) and lightweight flywheel coupled to the G50/10 transmission with closer ratios, asymmetrical Limited Slip Differential and steel syncromesh. A track-oriented suspension system with 40 mm (1.6 in) lower ride height, stiffer springs, shocks and adjustable stabilizer bars without power steering (RHD UK cars did have power steering).
A stripped-out interior devoid of power windows or seats, rear seats, air conditioning, cruise control, sound deadening or a stereo system (optionally fitted) and new racing-bucket front seats were part of the package. The trunk hood was made of aluminum, the chassis was seam welded and sound deadening was deleted. Wheels were made of magnesium and the glass was thinner in the doors and rear window. The Carrera RS is approximately 345 pounds (155 kg) lighter than the US version Carrera 2 model.

These cars were never delivered to the USA due to the idea that these cars were too track oriented despite being street cars for ROW (Rest of World). Today they are highly sought after due to the incredible road handling characteristics and the thrill of driving a car with your right foot and no added and heavy driving additives!! Lighter and much more fun to drive than the 993 RS and much more desirable and safe to drive than the initial RS built in 1973. The 964 RS Carrera will be the next generation of 1973 RS’s and, of course, being much faster, safer and fun to drive than the original RS from 1973 and future values will soon be near or at the level of a 1973 RS.

This is a very rare and highly sought after PAINT TO SAMPLE and FULLY ORIGINAL RS Carrera with only 28,867 KM’s from new. No modifications whatsoever and in AS NEW CONCOURS CONDITION. With ownership history from delivery date and in Paint to Sample this particular automobile is for the true collector and 911 enthusiast. Included in the sale are all tools, books, records, jack, gloves, and original spare. Finding a car in this condition is extremely hard to source and the added value bonus of a paint to sample car will always be rare and highly collectible for many years to come.

Price on Request

There isn’t a whole lot to say about this RS itself. Everything looks exactly as we’d hope from such a low-mileage collectible. It comes with all of its documentation as well. My only quibble – and this is more with how the car is spec’d than with its current presentation – is that the three-tone seats are the standard grey. I’d have loved if they matched the exterior. Perhaps since it was paint-to-sample this was not possible, though it’s rare that something isn’t possible from Porsche. If you have the money, they can usually find a way.

So how much might it cost? Recent auctions of low-mileage examples of the 964 Carrera RS have been selling in the mid- to upper-$200Ks. But those have been for fairly standard colors. There is a Rubystone RS of similar mileage priced at a whopping $408K, but it’s been around for a little while and to me may represent an outlier. I would expect this paint-to-sample RS to eclipse $300K without much problem. After that it really becomes a matter of how much a buyer wants it. There certainly aren’t many more like it (well, perhaps any more like it) and even those that are similar may not be in such fine condition.

-Rob

Right Hooker Week: 1992 Porsche 911 Carrera RS

Truth be told I wasn’t sure if a right-hand drive 964 Carrera RS actually existed. I was pretty sure I’d seen one previously, but couldn’t be sure I hadn’t just imagined it. But here one is: a Rubystone Red 1992 Porsche 911 Carrera RS with triple-tone Recaro seats and 58,900 miles on it. That’s a decent number of miles for a RS, yet its condition still looks quite good. Of course, the Carrera RS was never made available in the States, but they can now be imported. Sure, there are plenty of LHD examples available, but if you really want to take things to their extreme, why not just get a RHD one and really wow people?

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Year: 1992
Model: 911 Carrera RS
Engine: 3.6 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 58,900 mi
Price: £199,995 ($257,461)

The Porsche 911 964 Carrera RS was launched in 1992 and was considered a lightweight version of the Carrera 2 that could be used both on the road and the race track. Arguably, this was the most dynamic and agile 911 since the original version was launched in 1973. The engineers behind the project utilised the philosophy of removing weight and adding power when designing and engineering the car. Remarkably, nearly 175kg of weight was removed from the standard version as a result of using aluminium for the bonnet and doors as well as thinner glass for the windows.
All of the weight-saving measures added up and resulted in a vastly reduced overall mass. Luxuries such as back seats, power windows and armrests could all be disposed of and the increase in power came from a brand new lightweight flywheel and some other minor modifications. The flat-six engine produced 260 bhp and also fitted to the car was a limited-slip differential, modified suspension (with a 40mm lower ride height) and stiffer springs. In another weight-saving move, Porsche chose to remove all the sound deadening and manufactured the wheels from magnesium.
This RHD example was delivered to its first owner Mr Clifford of Worthing, West Sussex in June 1993 via dealer Rivervale Porsche. Finished in the rare 964 RS signature original combination of Rubystone Red over optional Triple-Tone Rubystone Recaro Bucket Seats, the following options were also applied from new, UK LUX Spec and Tinted Windows.
With no less than 14 stamps in the original service book, many from the main dealer who supplied the car, it has been maintained with a no expense spared approach from new, resulting in a superb condition to be expected throughout.
This 964 RS is presented in excellent and original condition having covered just 58,900 Miles, with just 4 prior owners. Accompanied by its original book pack as well as tools, spare wheel, supporting history file and Porsche Certificate of Authenticity confirming the car’s matching engine and gearbox numbers. This RS is ready to be enjoyed by its new owner immediately with viewings available at our showroom, which is based just outside London.

Rubystone is not everyone’s favorite color. You’re probably going to love it or hate it, with little in between. But like it or not it’s become almost an iconic color on the 964 RS. It might even be the color I see most often. The interior is equally as divisive. I’m a fan. I’m not going to say Rubystone is my favorite Porsche color by any means, but I do love the look on the RS. Here it actually looks somewhat subdued. I’m guessing that’s down to the foggy/cloudy lighting conditions. But it’s a fun color on what should be an amazingly fun car.

Everything here looks about as we’d expect of a RS, even with the higher miles. Though I am curious about the exhaust. The ad makes no mention of it being added on, but I’m pretty sure the standard RS has a single exhaust outlet. The 3.8 RS had dual exhaust, but not the 3.6. That’s probably worth inquiring about. The price of just under £200K (about $257K) seems fairly typical given the mileage. We certainly see lower mileage examples priced significantly higher.

Given pricing like this for a Carrera RS that’s already been imported, this one may be downright reasonable. It definitely has a few more miles and that dual exhaust may not be original, but the asking price here is a long way from $400K and if that is what it’s going to take to get one that’s already Stateside then perhaps going through the hassle yourself is the way to go. And heck you’d even have a RHD version!

-Rob

Feature Listing: 1987 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe Backdate

Among Porsche 911 enthusiasts and collectors the 1973 911 Carrera RS is a much adored car and for very good reason. While not the very first performance oriented model of the 911 Porsche produced, previous versions like the 911R were produced in such small numbers that most buyers never would have had any shot at them. While the Carrera RS was still produced in relatively small numbers, production still reached around 1,500 so there were a few to go around and they caused quite a stir.

Naturally, all of this greatness means prices are now very, very, high. Some Lightweights have eclipsed $1M. Because of those high prices and the general demand for the style and performance it has become increasingly common for builders to backdate later 911s, usually the 3.2 Carrera or (more rarely) the 964, bringing the style of the long-hood Carrera RS to the more modern mechanicals and underlying structure of a later 911. We’ve featured quite a few of these builds and they come in all sorts of spec and with a wide range of prices. Here we have another, which I think looks fantastic in its very understated, but still quite pretty, Dolphin Grey exterior and within the typical range in which we see these priced, this one seems pretty reasonable!

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1987 Porsche 911 Carrera Coupe Backdate at Kachel Motor Co.

Year: 1987
Model: 911 Carrera
Engine: 3.2 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 134,600+ mi
Price: $58,995

KMC is proud to present a unique opportunity to own this bespoke, award-winning, Restomod air-cooled 911. The build was based on a clean, numbers-matching 1987 911 Carrera from California. This was a perfect base for the build, given the well-established reliability of the 3.2L engine, with a slicker-shifting Getrag G50 gear box and revised chain tensioning and lubrication system (which plagued the previous 911 generations). The car has been restored in the style of the venerable 1973 911 RS, with steel long-hood and fenders, and a fiberglass rear-lid with ducktail. All of the chrome trim, door handles and window latches have been re-anodized, which balance out the beautiful, Glasurit Dolphin Grey (an original 356 color) paint. The 17″ pristine replica Fuchs complete the clean and classic look of the car.

The interior has styling cues from the famed Singer 911, including period-correct gauges with a Heuer-logo clock, powder-coated floor-boards and classic-styled, hounds-tooth sport bucket seats. Subtle details like the authentic (and hard to find) Heuer Rally dash timers, Alcantara headliner, dash and door trim, wood 917-style shift knob and made to order Autoflug-style 5-point harness truly make the interior a special and inviting place.

Mechanically, the car is well sorted out with a valve adjustment and clutch service at 134,600 miles. The struts, sway bars and wheel bearings have also been serviced recently, and the car has just been fitted with a brand new set of tires. Tasteful performance upgrades include a Wevo short-shift kit, Steve Wong chip, SSI heat exchangers and Dansk sport mufflers. This car has no cold-start issues, pulls hard and has no oil leaks.

Make no mistake, this is a driver’s car that is as amazing to drive, as it is to behold in your garage or at a car show. If you have ever drooled over Rob Dickinson’s, Lightspeed or Autofarm 911 Restomods, here is your chance to own a one-of-a-kind classic, yet affordable, re-imagined 911.

This particular build began with an ’87 Carrera Coupe, so you’re getting the stout 3.2 liter flat-6 paired with the G50 5-speed transmission. It makes for a nice base and in most cases leads to higher prices though that isn’t much reflected here. The engine sounds like it’s mostly in stock form. There area a few upgrades, but I would expect power levels to be fairly typical for this period Carrera. The exterior is what we expect from such a build: long-hood, ducktail, wider rear, all paired with a nice looking set of Fuchs replicas. The interior looks nicely outfitted as well and in an understated way. They haven’t gone over the top with the details, but things like houndstooth seating and a set of Heuer rally timers are nice additions that provide a sporty feel to the car. Like the RS itself there’s little in the way of extra components to the interior; we have the things we need for piloting the car and little else. In that regard it’s excellent.

And at the end, with an asking price a little below $60K they aren’t asking for something too unreasonable either. Someone interested in replicating such a build will be hardpressed to do so for cheaper without already possessing a well-sorted 3.2 Carrera to use as your base. If you had to buy a car as well it might not be possible. Some may prefer a brighter color (heck, I might prefer a brighter color!), but this isn’t the first 911 I’ve seen painted in one of the lighter shades from the 356 and they tend to look really nice. This one is no different. I wouldn’t say it’s a sleeper, but you can certainly cruise a little freer.

-Rob

1992 Porsche 911 Carrera RS

I’m going to move on from the 964 soon, but before I did I wanted to post one more. The Japanese Carrera 2 from earlier this week reminded me that the Carrera RS can now be legally imported so I couldn’t pass up the chance to feature one of those. Despite its rarity there are usually a few of these available at any given time. That does, of course, mean expanding your search quite far and even though they are available a few is just that, a few. So it still isn’t easy, but they are out there.

I wanted to find one that wasn’t too crazy expensive (though finding one below $200K seems very difficult so “expensive” is a bit relative here). There are some of those available if you want one as a collector, but I wanted to find one with some miles and that hopefully someone could drive. This also meant looking at something in a more standard color. And that’s what we see here with this Guards Red 1992 Porsche 911 Carrera RS, located in Italy, with 81K kilometers on it.

If you do happen to desire one that’s a little more rare and more interesting, this one or this one could suit your needs. Both of those have similar miles to this one, but come in more daring colors. All of these should be great!

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Year: 1992
Model: 911 Carrera RS
Engine: 3.6 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 81,000 km (~ 50,332 mi)
Price: €190,000 (~ $217,000)

February 1992
Car in perfect condition.
The current owner (collector Porsche and Ferrari) possesses since 2000, and is the third owner.
The car has covered 81.000 kilometers.
Original engine and transmission.
Regular maintenance carried out at Porsche official workshops (the owner has all the documentation of the work performed).
Interiors in original black leather.
Original magnesium wheels.
Frame n° WPOZZZ96ZNS490843
Italian plate and document.
Car ready to change of ownership.

When released in 1992 the Carrera RS revived an iconic name that had lay dormant for nearly 20 years. Like any of Porsche’s cars bearing the RS moniker the 964 both raises performance and decreases the overall weight. Unlike the RS America produced for the US market, the RS truly is a light weight as it shed more than 300 lbs from the standard Carrera 2. Add in a revised suspension that moves beyond the standard sport suspension and you get one heck of a performer.

These cars possess one my favorite profiles of any air-cooled 911. Its hunkered down stance and curves give it a great look and for me it is only surpassed by the early 3.0 liter 930 in its appearance. It’s been a long wait for anyone who has had an eye on one of these but with the window now open we should see more of these great cars appearing Stateside. Given that they are very expensive and very collectible I’m not sure whether we really would see one on the road all that often, but one such as this with more than 50K miles on the clock certainly could absorb some additional miles without too much concern.

-Rob