Cash For Clunkers CARnage

Cash For Clunkers CARnage

I figured this being a car blog it was somewhat necessary to at least give brief mention of the CARS Car Allowance Rebate System or Cash For Clunkers program. By now most of America is probably familiar with the deal. You readers as car folks also probably understand that upon turning your car in for a credit the car is scrapped, regardless of how much life is left in the vehicle. What I think is important to underline is that scrapped doesn’t mean the engine gets pulled out and parts reused. Jalopnik covered this issue. In this case the government insists the engines are destroyed using a sodium silicate solution (liquid glass), that is poured into the running engine after the oil is drained. This locks up the motor and makes salvaging it useless.

I don’t want to get preachy or go into more details here, there are plenty of other places online where you can do that, but I do find this program a shameful waste, full of economical, environmental, and practical pitfalls. I’ve seen a number of BMWs and Benzs meet their fate in this past week. Including several big bodied 500 series Benzs that easily were worth more than the credit given. The financial incentive has made less loyal car owners sacrifice fine automobiles or be forced into doing so by significant others. See this ad for a 1988 BMW M5 that needs saving for example.

Regardless of your own thoughts on the program or political views, below I give some examples of what this program has brought that should sadden you as gear heads and folks who are going to have to pay jacked up used part prices.

So pour out a quart of 40 weight for the fallen. If you find photos or videos of German vehicles to add to this hall of shame let us know.…

Gray Market Goodness: 500E, 190 2.3-16, and CTR2

Gray Market Goodness:  500E, 190 2.3-16, and CTR2

Some really tasty gray market goodies are for sale online right now. I had to get these posted fast, so I’m putting them all together. Enjoy!

Mercedes-Benz Euro W124 500E 1992 For Sale at EuroClassicMotors.com for $42000

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quote from their website:

Model: Mercedes-Benz Euro W124 500E 1992 Anthracite Grey Metallic/Black
Features: Fully loaded, Rare onboard computer! (Similar to E34 M5 )
Mileage: 89K since new, second owner car, imported from Germany 1993 by the original owner all the DOT/EPA is done, Currently the new home is Los Angeles area.
Availability: CURRENTLY FOR SALE $42000- call/email.
Technical Data: This is legendary M119 engine, Euro spec is 326hp 354 nm / 261.1 ft lbs @ 4900 rpm.
Exhaust: Custom made from the headers all the way to the Remus, the sound is awesome !!!
Soon will have dyno test on the car, estimated around 356hp at the crank…
Suspension: Koni yellow sport (adjustable).
Brakes: High-performance double-drilled and slotted rotors with high performance brake pads.
Transmission: Is set to start from 1st gear every time and
operates very sensitively in downshift mode with no lock moment… The result is impressive!
Differential: 2.47 LSD (Limited Slip Differential)
Wheels: 19” inch AMG (style) Front 245 35 19 Rear 275/30/19.

Is this the finest W124 500E for sale… anywhere?! It sure looks like it, and duplicating this car would surely cost more than the asking price. Make sure to check out their website which has probably 100 images on it. This car is beautiful!


1985 Mercedes 190 2.3-16 For Sale1985 Mercedes 190 2.3-16 For Sale1985 Mercedes 190 2.3-16 For Sale

quote from eBay listing:

This is the one! Anthracite gray with black leather interior, 5-speed manual with the higher horsepower, higher compression european spec engine.

1984 BMW 323i Pickup

1984 BMW 323i Pickup

There really isn’t much to say about this eBay oddity, other than it has to be overpriced.

The seller says:

Only 2 cars were authorized by BMW to be custom modified to pick up version.

I’d like to know more about what exactly that means. I’m not sure I can see the fine folks in Bavaria back in 1984 thinking “You know Rolf we really need to compete with the Subaru BRAT segment”.

1984 BMW 323i Pickup

It has some nice goodies from Hartge and Schrick, but I really can’t explain what they were going for with that paint job.

If this can really be documented as a factory BMW project its rarity might give it some added collector value. It is going to take a special someone to want to take this one home at $25k. Besides, I know Mercedes already locked up the German El Camino (or would that be Die Straße) bragging rights. Below photo from my archives.

Mercedes W116 Pickup

~Evan…

1987 Mercedes 300 Wagon with AMG 6.0 litre twin cam motor

1987 Mercedes 300 Wagon with AMG 6.0 litre twin cam motor

There are several Mercedes 300 Wagons in our neighborhood. I often think that if I had one I’d want to lower it an inch, put on period AMG monoblock rims, color match the lower panels, and upgrade to European spec headlights — which would make for a great family ride.

But this 300 wagon takes it to another level. It has the AMG 6L motor, 3 piece rims, and very rare body kit, to name a few of the tasteful and rare upgrades. Here is the majority of the seller’s listing from the eBay ad for this 300 AMG Wagon:

1987 Mercedes AMG 6.0 litre twin cam Hammer wagon1987 Mercedes AMG 6.0 litre twin cam Hammer wagon1987 Mercedes AMG 6.0 litre twin cam Hammer wagon1987 Mercedes AMG 6.0 litre twin cam Hammer wagon

quote from seller’s listing:

987 Mercedes 300 Wagon with AMG 6.0 litre twin cam motor, complete AMG car in excellent condition. I have owned this car for 13 years, originally from Canada a built for Mr Feingold I aquired the car through Renntech from Hartmuth, the car was in for a major service and Mr. Feingold decided to sell me the car after a $17000 complete service.

The exterior of the car is finished in a blue similar to Ferraris Tour de France, it has a complete AMG body kit including the 3 pc AMG wheels color keyed to the body, these wheels were recently refinished and sits on new Pirelli tires, Complete amg Mods, suspension, Exhaust, header, adj transmission, it is a real 6.0 motor and has had all services to date it runs outstanding has 44,000 kil. it has the 320 AMG speedo. The car has never sustained any damage, the paint is excellent with the acception of the front spoiler that has some minor rashing at the bottom corner, the front spoiler has air intakes for the cooling of the front brakes, it has never been tracked or abused I use the car once in a while when I need to take the kids somewhere and I need the seating for 7 it has the rear folding seat.

Please Welcome Evan as the Newest Author on GermanCarsForSaleBlog.com

Please Welcome Evan as the Newest Author on GermanCarsForSaleBlog.com

Evan answered my cry for help in the last post and I’m so super grateful for the help! Here is his quick and dirty bio:

I’m a major gear head and German car fan. I did my first engine rebuild in 7th grade and was hooked from then on. Though I appreciate fine design and engineering regardless of make, Mercedes Benz is my marque of choice. I particularly enjoy the big power German sport sedans, a niche I filled with the purchase of Euro spec 1979 Mercedes 450SEL 6.9. From autocrossing BMWs at Indianapolis to hauling in a Mercedes down the autobahn, from the RUF Porsche factory to Watkins Glen racetrack, I’ve tried to engage in a variety of experiences to further my knowledge of the German cars I appreciate. I hope to help bring fans intriguing sales listings I uncover, along with some anecdotes and info.

Welcome aboard Evan! Looking forward to your posts and expertise; and I very much appreciate the assistance in growing this blog!

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2 Unique Mercedes 77 450SEL Estate, 91 Koenig 300CE

2 Unique Mercedes 77 450SEL Estate, 91 Koenig 300CE

1977 Mercedes 450SEL Crayford Estate Wagon on eBay

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With a clientele that included Sophia Loren, Crayford conversions on 1970s Mercedes are an exclusive beast. These costly vehicles came warrantied by Mercedes and were the way customers who wanted an estate wagon for their fancy sedan could have the best of both worlds. This particular car interestingly shows the ugly U.S. market safety bumpers, but has avoided the recognizable, though inferior U.S. market quad circle sealed beam headlights in favor of Euro spec H4 beams. The seller, presumably using the register of Crayford Mercedes found here: http://www.crayford-benz.org, claims this to be one of only two or three in existence.

91 Mercedes 300CE Koenig Special on eBay.

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I may be mistaken, but I believe that this is not the only Koenig Special Benz once owned by baseball legend Ken Griffey Jr. in existence. Koenig epitomized the Miami Vice over the top bad ass look when it came to mid 80s Mercedes. This later 1991, has the same flavor with the in your face widebody kit, but I think the look is actually better pulled off by slightly larger W126 bodied Benz coupes like the 560SEC. Occasionally you will see the widebody kits in metal, but more often they are fiberglass and after nearly 20 years it may show some spiderweb cracking up close. It is hard to say what the premium here is for the owner provenance, but it safe to say this asking price is a significant discount from new. A new owner of this Koenig Special vehicle will need to remember that, though most mechanical parts won’t be any harder to find than standard 3 liter Mercedes fare, replacing the massive 315 size tires on the rears will be a cost. Fortunately with a 6 cylinder engine, instead of the torque of a 5 or 5.6 liter from a 126 bodied car, burnouts should be easier to avoid.…

1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 Euro in Vancouver, Canada

1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 Euro in Vancouver, Canada

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I usually try to avoid posting forbidden fruit like this European specification 2.3-16 in Vancouver, but I can’t help it. This one is really sharp looking and has the awesome houndstooth interior. Check out this 1987 Merc 190 2.3-16 on Vancouver Craigslist for $11.9k:


quote from seller’s listing:

1987 MERCEDES-BENZ 190E 2.3-16 EURO 5SP MANUAL, 185HP. 165K kms. If you are reading this add, you will know what this is. It has been owned by a enthusiast – all the usual and required updates and repairs have been done. No rust! New Brakes, Suspension, steering components etc, all done. Fully inspected and serviced. Rare!!

Suppose that is $11.9k US dollars, seems like a fantastic deal considering the obvious condition of this car. If CAD dollars, even better, snag it for $10.5k! Of course you’ll either have to pony up the serious coin to federalize this car, or put it in storage for 3 years until it passes the 25 year rule.

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Old School Mercedes W123 280 AMG

Old School Mercedes W123 280 AMG

Spent a couple late nights surfing German eBay (what you haven’t?) for rare, German unobtanium. My first spot was this Hartge 2.1L Display Motor. And then my mouse found this sweet old 82 AMG:

quote from seller’s eBayMotors listing (Google Translate)

Original 280 E AMG Level 2

Der Mercedes bekam als Neuwagen das AMG Stufe 2 Motortuning (AMG Nockenwellen, Brennraum- u. Kanalbearbeitung, Schlepphebel erleichtert/poliert, Saugrohr/Abgaskrümmer angepasst, Luftfilter geändert). The Mercedes got a new car, the AMG engine tuning stage 2 (AMG camshafts, and combustion-channel editing, drag lever facilitates / polished intake manifold / exhaust manifold adapted, modified air filter).
Neben der Leistungssteigerung auf 211 PS (Eingetragen im KFZ-Brief) hat der Wagen ein Besides the increase in power to 211 hp (Registered in KFZ-Brief), the car is a
AMG Silberpfeil Lenkrad AMG Silver Arrow steering wheel
AMG Frontspoiler. AMG front spoiler.
Original Bief, Original Biefer,
Service Heft, und Service manual, and
ABE´s vorhanden. ABE’s available.
Getriebe wurde 1999 Überholt. Reconditioned gearbox in 1999.

Fahrezeug hatte einen damaligen Neupreis von 40.785,00 DM als 5 DM mehr alls ein Porsche 911 der hatte zu der zeit 40.780,00 DM gekostet. Take stuff then had a new price of DM 40,785.00 DM more than 5 alls a Porsche 911 had the time to DM 40,780.00 tasted.

Motor und Getriebe Super. Super engine and gearbox.

Fahrzeug ist Technisch OK. Technically, the vehicle is OK.

Mir bekannte Mängel: Mir-known shortcomings:

Die Karosserie befindet sich in gutem Zustand, The body is in good condition;
um eine TÜV-Abnahme zu absolvieren müssten lediglich zwei kleinere Stellen am Linken & Rechts Schweller unterhalb der Wagenheberaufnahmen geschweisst werden (Wagenhebaraufnahmen OK). an inspection would need to complete only two minor points on the left & right below the sill jacking shots are welded (Wagenhebaraufnahmen OK).
Radio muss noch angeschlossen werden. Radio still needs to be connected.

Are Those Old School Momo Wheels on this 2.3-16 on eBay?

Are Those Old School Momo Wheels on this 2.3-16 on eBay?

Typically I prefer to post discovered examples for sale that are in better condition and/or lower miles. But as I scrolled through the pics, the wheels on this car jumped out at me. They look like either original Momo 5 star or perhaps even Fittipaldi rims. Take a look at this 1987 Mercedes 190 2.3-16 on eBayMotors:

quote from seller’s eBayMotors listing:

Please take a good look at the pictures, and then make a bid on this very special and rare car that is fun to drive and a pleasure to own. The amazing leather interior, front and rear bucket seats, 5 speed (dog leg) racing gearbox, stunning factory original ground effects kit. These cars don’t come up for sale very often so don’t miss this one.

As a young man in high school many moons ago, these were the rims to get. Can you help identify them?

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1987 Mercedes AMG Hammer 300E 6.0 For Sale in California

1987 Mercedes AMG Hammer 300E 6.0 For Sale in California

The owner states that this AMG Hammer is the ‘real deal’, which is to say it has the 6.0L with 4 valve heads. This translates to 375hp and 5 second zero to sixty times — in 1987! That beat the Lamborghini Countach, the Ferrari 288 GTO, and the Porsche 911 Turbo in top speed!

Check out this Black on Gray AMG Hammer for sale on eBayMotors:

quote from seller’s eBayMotors listing:

Original AMG Hammer, I have owned this car since 1993 it has 19000 Miles on it and is in exceptional condition. The black original paint is flawless, no accidents, no track time, the Original AMG body kit is unmarked no cracks, no missing paint front spoiler is excellent, The original 17 inch Aero wheels are not curbed, and the tires are good. All factory stickers are present in the jams of the doors and trunk. The car is always stored inside my garage in a climate controlled enviroment.Original in every way…

The car was Purchased new from Beverly Hills Motoring Accessories in 87, it was used for a few auto show and used in there catalog It is a Real AMG car it has the 4 cam 6.0 litre motor, all AMG upgraded Hammer suspension to fit the larger 8 cyl, upgraded rear end, transmission, and brakes, the car has had a recent service and has always been serviced by an authorized AMG service tech, there are no leaks, the Ac has been serviced and converted to R12, a new AMG exhaust was installed last year. The runs outstanding it is like the day it was delivered, I have all factory manuals, tool kit, jack etc.

I found some cool articles about the 300E AMG Hammer while researching the car, but this might be the most telling quote about how expensive this car was in 87 (VWVortex):

The Hammer’s US price of $167,000 in 1987 is equal to about $311,882 today (6/08).

Two Great Mercedes 500E cars For Sale: One for $26k and one for $9k

Two Great Mercedes 500E cars For Sale:  One for $26k and one for $9k

First up is this beautifully photographed Mercedes 500E that has covered under 70k miles! Take a look at this example offered by Landmark Motors in Kirkland, Washington for $27,000, found originally via Craigslist:

quote from seller’s Craiglist post:

Considered a classic, even by those within Mercedes-Benz, this rare and spectacular 500 E is the Super Sport version of the W124 and is a cooperative effort between Daimler-Benz and Porsche. Every aspect of this car is special and only 1505 of these made it to the United States. Hand-built by Porsche in Zuffenhausen, it took a full 18 days to complete each car. It luxuriously accommodates four in all-leather seats by Recaro which are heated in front. The engine is derived from the 5.0L twin-DOHC V8 M119 with 326hp. The suspension is sport-tuned and self-leveling and the car rides on the original, and special, MBZ Sportline lightweight alloy wheels. All that came to the U.S. were fully-loaded as is this example. This is a 2-owner CARFAX clean car with no damage history, only 62K miles and is completely original. All service records and books are included and the 60K service has just been completed. Uncommon and in uncommonly fine condition, this 500 E is going to make someone very happy

I find the asking price a bit eye watering to be honest. It looks fantastic and there are very few with that kind of mileage. But it’s not 7k miles, it’s 70k. High teens, low twenties seems more appropriate to me.

At the other end of the spectrum is this sharp looking driver for $8950 in Georgia:

quote from seller’s Craigslist posting:

As for mine, it has been meticulously cared for. It was owned first by a retired Army general, then by an editor of a British Mercedes-Benz enthusiast magazine (living here in the states).

Super Low Miles BMW e30 M3 For Sale

Super Low Miles BMW e30 M3 For Sale

BringATrailer spotted this 4k mile e30 M3 earlier this summer and I blogged it as well on my old blog. It’s an interesting discussion piece as it’s likely one of the nicest survivors in the world, and carries an absurd asking price of $55k.

I post it again here for those who haven’t seen it yet and because my memory was sparked when a thread on VWVortex showed up and a lengthy discussion ensued concerning this car.

What’s your take?

dc

Update: This listing is pretty out of date. Consider one of these early e30 M3’s instead!

[AffomaticEbay]BMW e30 m3[/AffomaticEbay]…

Mercedes 2.3-16 For Sale: How Does Black on Black and 44k Miles Sound?!

Mercedes 2.3-16 For Sale:  How Does Black on Black and 44k Miles Sound?!

“Hell Yes!” is what I thought the first time I blogged this car on my old blog. The car is available again and is currently on eBay:

1987 Mercedes-Benz 190-Series 190E 2.3-16 For Sale in PA on eBayMotors

quote from seller’s ad:

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I have only owned the car since March 2008, driving 3,500 careful miles during that time and keeping it garaged. Due to a growing number of drivers (five) in my family, and a limited stable of vehicles, the 2.3-16 faces being pressed into daily-driver duty, to include wintertime. This car is too beautiful (and tricky on ice & snow, I would imagine) to have that occur, so I will instead seek a good home.

My car (previously owned by an automotive journalist) was featured in a February 2007 Automobile magazine article (“Second Hand Thrills”) comparing, contrasting, and singing the praises of the 2.3-16 and the original BMW M3. He had owned it for three-plus years, kept amazing records, and treated the car with upmost care. I have continued the meticulous care and careful record-keeping, although my primary entries onto the spreadsheet that he created have been fuel mileage (20 mpg city; 26+ highway) plus an oil change and a recharging of the A/C.

Strengths: Starts immediately, cold, warm, or hot, and idles & revs as intended. Clutch and shifter work perfectly, and there is no sign of synchro wear. Steering is precise, with no wandering or vibrations through the wheel. Brakes are excellent by any standard, and tires are as-new. Interior features perfect wood, completely crack-free and unblemished dash, leather seats in like-new condition, all lights & gauges in working order (even the factory-installed digital stopwatch) and climate control operates perfectly. Power windows, mirror (right side only; left side is manual), sunroof, and stereo/cassette fully functional. Body is completely straight, paint is excellent, and all aero pieces are in place and properly aligned.

1986 Mercedes 190 2.3-16 For Sale in Seattle: Black on Black

1986 Mercedes 190 2.3-16 For Sale in Seattle:  Black on Black

If I had half a brain, I’d buy this myself. 2.3-16’s aren’t as valued as e30 M3’s, but they’re clearly gaining value as a result of the surge in values related to those M3’s.

quote from eBay listing:

You will find that this car is not only beautiful but also has excellent racing pedigree. Latest articles/videos (in the past 12 months) on this car seem to indicate that its increasing collectability level is gaining momentum. Sports Car Market’s 2008 Price Guide (printed in Winter 2007) prices this car between $10K-$16K and showing an increase of 13% in the past year. At the rate collector cars are increasing, I would not be surprised if the prices have gone up a bit more during 2008. Just for comparison, I believe there are two 16V models for sale on ebay right now and have buy-it-now prices at $15K.

This particular car looks well looked after with a maintenance binder, original parts included, and appropriate upgrades like European lighting. For $13k, this looks like a sharp buy with a hard to find color combo.

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1993 Mercedes-Benz 500E For Sale in Hawaii

1993 Mercedes-Benz 500E For Sale in Hawaii

The Mercedes 500E was the top of the line in the Merc E series W124 range. But that’s really an understatement when discussing the 500E. It is a very special car that was actually engineered and built in collaboration with Porsche. It is easily distinguished by it’s wider wheel arches and low, chunky stance.


The owner is listing the car on VWVortex for only $14k
. In addition to a nice history of the model, lots of photos, and all the reference links, he also lists standard shipping cost to common ports in the U.S. ranging between $1-2k dollars.

The pictures look pretty good, but you know, I think this would best be inspected in person so you could make an excuse to hang out in Hawaii for a couple of days 😉 Good luck with the sale Brodie!

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