1992 Porsche 911 Turbo

I still feel as if I come across way too few of these early 964 Turbos. Compared to its predecessor the 930 it’s as if they don’t exist. While the later 3.6 liter Turbo is more rare I feel like I see them more often. Or, at least, this is all how I perceive the whole thing. It may be more a matter of coming across examples I like rather than coming across them in particular, but I’m not sure. I like this one and whether there are few of these for sale or simply few of them I actually like for sale the result is the same: opportunities for a nice 3.3-liter 964 Turbo don’t come around all that often. They certainly don’t come along often in brighter colors.

This one checks all of those boxes: a Guards Red 1992 Porsche 911 Turbo, located in New York, with Cashmere Beige interior and a mere 16,427 miles on it.

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1994 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe

I’m starting to wonder if I’ve missed something with the 964 market. I’m speaking here of the standard models like the one we see here, not the various ultra-rare models that can command extremely high prices. Asking prices just seem way too high. The 964 indeed has become a more desirable model relative to its place among the air-cooled models only a few years ago, yet still while the rest of the market takes a few steps backward the asking prices for the 964 continue to go up. Perhaps it is because of those ultra-rare models and the significant premiums they command; sellers see a Turbo S fetching nearly $1M and think their Carrera 2 most certainly must be worth more than it is. Perhaps it’s the influx of RoW cars and the premiums those are commanding. I don’t know. Regardless, here again we have one that quite simply appears to be priced a good deal higher than it should be.

This is an Amazon Green Metallic 1994 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe, located in Pennsylvania, with Tan leather interior and 116,810 miles on it. To be clear, I like this 964. I think it’d probably make for a nice addition to anyone’s Porsche family. It looks in pretty good shape for the age and mileage and the color combination is a very attractive one – not eye catching and head turning, but subtle and quite pretty. I just don’t think it’s a $60K 911.

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1991 Porsche 911 Andial/Porsche Motorsport Pikes Peak 3.8 Turbo

I’ve seen this car for sale for a little while and have kept meaning to come back to feature it. There’s just so much to take in initially and I’ve pulled up the listing a few times. It’s obviously far from anything original and is an extensive build, though it does possess interesting historical characteristics that should give it appeal beyond the typical custom build. It’s very bright, probably pretty loud and raucous, and sure to be very fast.

So let’s get the basics down. Effectively it sounds like this build began as a way to find a home for a very special engine: a 3.8 liter single turbo flat-6 producing 550 hp developed by Andial that served as the engine in a Pike’s Peak winning 964 Carrera 4 back in the ’90s. To house the engine a 1991 Porsche 911 Turbo with around 90K miles on it was found and work began. Those are excellent pieces to build upon. A suitable paint was needed so the designers reached back to the ’60s to source one of Porsche’s earliest pastels to show up on the 911: Pastel Blue. Combine all of that with a whole host of parts to improve upon the suspension and braking, along with a new interior, and you get the final product we see here.

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1994 Porsche 911 Turbo S Flatnose with 162,905 miles

Typically when we make a fuss about a car’s mileage it’s because it’s some insanely low-mileage garage queen or barn find. While we may all wonder how the owner could have such a great car and never drive it, the collectors go in a frenzy for the chance at such a rare time capsule. We see a lot of those cars; they’re neat to see.

This one probably is actually more rare. Start with one of the rarest models Porsche has produced: the 1994 Porsche 911 Turbo S Flatnose. Only 76 in total were produced worldwide with only 39 making it to the US. Then drive it. Then keep driving it. And drive it some more. Over the first ten years of its life this Turbo S was driven seemingly how any other car would have been driven putting on an average of around 14K miles per year. That’s your typical daily driver. Can you imagine the immense joy that would come from having such a car as your daily driver?

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1993 Porsche 911 RS America

I’ll say straightaway that I have a couple questions about this 1993 Porsche 911 RS America. I also think it’s priced a good bit too high, though that’s a problem with a lot of RS Americas we see come up for sale. We’ll get to those questions though. First, the good stuff.

As you can probably see this one has received a full wrap in Martini Racing livery. If you were to imagine what a 964 wearing such livery at the track would look like this is probably it. And it looks great! The Martini striping really works well over the curves of the rear quarters. I’d want to remove the stickers for the dealer, but otherwise I think this conveys its intent well. This RS America also is one of the low-option examples. There were only four options available (A/C, sunroof, radio, and limited-slip differential) so none of them have lots of options, but still for a car that’s supposed to be stripped down a lot of them seem to have those things added back. This one clearly does not have the radio or sunroof. We don’t get a clear look at the option sticker and the ad leaves us blind, but I think the only option chosen was the LSD. For those in search of the sportiest RSA out there this one checks those boxes.

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1993 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe

I can never really begrudge sellers who are overly effusive about the cars they are selling, but sometimes it does frustrate me. In most cases, this applies to cars I really like, but which I feel are being presented in the wrong way. (I have a similar frustration whenever I see an ad from Toyota talking about how sporty the new Camry feels.) But I do get it, they’re trying to sell something and appeal to certain emotions.

This 964, a Midnight Blue 1993 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe, falls into this category. I really like this 911; it looks great, the color combination is one that I really enjoy, and with a fairly recent engine rebuild we would hope it’s ready to roll and provide many more miles of excellent motoring. But it also has almost 150K miles on it so why should I care about collector appeal?

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Tahoe Blue Metallic 1991 Porsche 911 Turbo

Update 12/31/2017 – the asking price on this 1991 Porsche 911 Turbo has dropped $20,000 to $109,995.

I always find it difficult to find 964 Turbos in interesting colors. Which is weird because of all the 911 models I feel like the 964 is the range I think had the largest number of unusual colors available. Porsche always has offered quite a variety, but it seemed with the 964 they let themselves go even further. But it seems buyers stuck with the more traditional options.

Here we have an obvious exception: a Tahoe Blue Metallic 1991 Porsche 911 Turbo, located in Brooklyn, with a color-to-sample Linen leather interior offset by a healthy dose of rootwood accents and 78,952 miles on it. I’m not very familiar with Tahoe Blue Metallic and this one is said to be 1 of only 3 Turbos equipped in this color combination. The extensive options list likely takes it to the top of that already exclusive company.

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1991 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe

Let’s stick with yesterday’s blue theme and take a look at another of Porsche’s really nice blues. Here we have a Cobalt Blue Metallic 1991 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe, located in Houston, with a light grey and blue interior and 74,452 miles on it. As should be immediately apparent, Cobalt Blue is a very pretty and striking shade of color. It doesn’t jump out at you as much as Minerva Blue does since it’s a darker shade, but though it may be more reserved it none the less shines brightly and exudes plenty of character. On the much more modern lines of the 964 – modern relative to an early 930 – it looks great bringing both elegance and excitement to this 911’s curves. It helps that this one looks in very nice shape!

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1994 Porsche 911 Turbo S Flachbau

Not too long ago we featured a 911 Turbo S Package car, one of the rarest and most sought after of all air-cooled 911s. Now, we’ll take a look at the other version of this ultimate 964: a Black 1994 Porsche 911 Turbo S Flachbau (Flatnose), located in Massachusetts, with Light Grey leather interior and 16,400 miles on it.

As the last standard issue rear-drive turbo – I’m intentionally excluding the later GT2 from this – the Turbo S serves as the ultimate expression of the breed melding prodigious power with all of the dynamic peculiarities of the 911’s rear-engine platform. It’s luxurious and refined, while also looking the part of the supercar that it is. Not everyone likes the 968-derived Flatnose, and even I’ll admit it makes for a somewhat peculiar appearance, but there’s no question it will grab your attention. Step behind the wheel and your attention may never leave it.

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1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe – RoW Sunroof Delete

Let’s continue with yesterday’s theme and look at another 911 that originated outside of our shores. Here we have a Japanese market Forest Green Metallic 1990 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Coupe, located in California, with Black interior and a very low 32,200 kilometers on it. Of additional import this Carrera 2 does not have a sunroof. The seller has listed it as a sunroof delete – and I’ve followed suit – but properly speaking I think we’d say this 911 didn’t have the sunroof selected as an option, rather than deleted. It gets us to the same point though.

We’ve seen a few of these Japanese market 964s come up lately – I’ve even featured one – and they certainly make for a nice departure from the US versions. This particular example looks fantastic!

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Year: 1990
Model: 911 Carrera 2
Engine: 3.6 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 32,200 km (19,900 mi)
Price: $119,990 Buy It Now

1990 Porsche 911/964 Carrera 2 Coupe
Euro/Rest of World Edition
Sunroof Delete/Manual Trans/LSD
Numbers Matching
Stock #0882

VIN# WP0ZZZ96ZLS403967
ENG# 62L07426 (M64/01)
TRN# 1L03261 (G50/03)
Numbers Matching
19,900 Original Miles (32,200 kilometers)
Forest Green Metallic (L22E) on Black Partial Leather/LT
5-speed G50 Manual Transmission with LSD
Clean and Clear Montana Title
1-Owner from New
Imported by the Famous Mitsuwa Motors of Japan
Porsche Certificate of Authenticity

The Porsche 964 market has caught the attention of collectors and enthusiasts. It was really the beginning of the modern version of the 911. Some of the most significant changes in the 911’s history began with this model. Torsion bar suspension was replaced with an adjustable coil-over setup. Power steering was added. The A/C system was updated and much more effective. The new twin-plug 3.6L engine made these cars wonderful around town with great low-end power. The changes were extensive and really made these examples some of the best all-around driving 911s. In particular, the Rest of World (ROW) models are considered the best. They are lighter, the suspension is better, and they look better. Now with the U.S. 25-year import law in effect, these cars are finally legal for the American market.

This C2 was built on January 3rd, 1990 and imported by Mitsuwa Motors of Japan. This company was the legal importer for all Porsche cars entering the Japanese market for decades. This Porsche was ordered with the following factory options:

Special order paint (Forest Green Metallic)
Rear Wiper
Air Conditioner
Bridgestone Tires
Limited Slip Differential (dealer installed)

This 964 lived with one owner from new in Osaka, Japan. Recently, it was imported to the United States. Prior to being shipped, the Porsche dealer in Japan performed a major service.

Furthermore, the air-conditioning system has also been serviced and it blows cold. The car was fully detailed and a ceramic paint protection coat was applied. This is a process that costs over $3,000 and seals the paint from contaminants.

The exterior looks fantastic and shows minimal signs of use. It is indicative of a low-mile example. The body panels have been checked with a paint meter and verified original except for some paint blending on the right rear fender and right door. The paint work was done due to some dents and scratches. Visually, the match is spot on and the only way you can tell is with a meter. The glass is all original including the windshield and looks near new. The wheels are wrapped in older Dunlop tires that should be replaced soon. The front brakes are new and the rears have about half-life remaining. All the exterior lights function properly. The headlights have HID bulbs. The rear power wing operates as it should and the accordion plastic part is in good condition (see pic). The exterior of these ROW cars looks fantastic. The bumpers are cleaner and the side European marker lights add a nice touch. Also, the ride height is lower and gives it a more aggressive stance and better handling.

The engine compartment is clean and tidy. The engine has recently been serviced by Porsche. All the proper factory decals are in place. The engine sound pad is in excellent condition as well. The underside is also clean and still has all of its plastic undercarriage panels in place.

The interior is equally as nice and also reflective of the low miles. The leather seats are in excellent condition with just some light bolster wear with no tears. The carpet, door panels, and headliner all look fresh. The dash is perfect with no cracks or warping. An aftermarket Japanese stereo has been installed. It powers up and plays, but the FM tuning does not work in the U.S. market. The A/C blows cold. All the gauges operate properly. The clock keeps time as well. All the interior lights and buttons function as they should.

It’s hard to put a finger on why these cars drive so nice, but they feel much tighter and more responsive than their North American counterparts. This example starts easily with the first twist of the key and holds an even idle. The power is immediate and has excellent low-end torque. The lightened flywheel really helps free up the motor’s rpms. The power assisted steering is a welcome addition, yet it still provides plenty of road feel and feedback. Turn in is precise and the car tracks straight. The LSD helps with applying the torque on the exit from turns. Some fresh tires would improve handling even more. The brakes have great initial bite with no fading or pulling. The gearbox shifts smoothly with no grinding or slipping.

This example is truly a rare site to see stateside and would certainly gather a crowd at your local cars and coffee. Meanwhile, it is easy enough to use daily and a blast in the canyons. This would make a great driver for distance touring events or even showing at your local concours events.

This 964 comes with its original owner’s manuals, Certificate of Authenticity, space saver spare, jack, air compressor, extra key, and tool kit.

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I also should note that this same seller has another non-sunroof Carrera 2 available. In many ways it is very similar. I chose to feature this one because the color is a little more unique so I like it better. But, if you prefer black, there’s one available.

The asking price for both of these 911s is very high and I’ll be pretty curious to see whether either can sell. Even given the condition and very low mileage it’s still tough to consider moving above six figures for a Carrera 2, regardless of its various unique qualities. For comparison, the Slate Grey Japanese Carrera 2 I featured had an asking price of $78K. It sold, presumably for a price close to asking since I don’t think it was available all that long. It also had no sunroof, but at 74K kilometers it’s mileage definitely was higher. So we’ll have to factor that in, but that still leaves me wondering if lower mileage is worth this much of a premium. Nonetheless, this is a really nice looking RoW Carrera 2 and certainly one that will start some conversation with anyone who sees it.

-Rob