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Month: October 2017

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Quattro Conundrum: 1987 Audi 4000CS quattro or 1993 Audi S4

While usually our ‘Double Take’ features look at one model, today I’m going to look at two cars that share a brand, and idea, and a price point. Both of these Audis represent a huge leap forward from their predecessors; versus the front-drive Type 81, the Type 85 B2 was much more modern-feeling, refined and introduced all-wheel drive to the mass market (excusing its bigger brother, and twice as expensive and exotically flared Quattro brethren, of which only 664 sold here) and the C4 S4 introduced the U.S. market to S-cars and merged the 200 20V’s setup with a modern body and more sporty interior along with even a bit more power. Both are legendary in the 4-ringed circles for their longevity. Both have cadres of fans who seek each model out. And both are hard to find in good condition.

So here we go, Alice – red or green pill? For your $6,000 investment, which of these inline-5 all-wheel drive legends would be your choice?

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1987 Audi 4000CS quattro on eBay

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1998 Porsche 911 Carrera S

There are plenty of times when I feel like I feature too many very expensive 911s. The problem, of course, is the 911 isn’t a terribly inexpensive car to start with so even the pricing is somewhat relative. But really it’s just that many of these high-priced examples are very hard to pass up. Guess where this one falls? I couldn’t pass it up.

We’re sticking with the theme of interesting colors that we’ve been running with across the site this week and here we have one of Porsche’s most interesting darker shades. This is a Vesuvio Metallic 1998 Porsche 911 Carrera S, located in Cleveland, with a mere 4,848 miles on it. So we have a Carrera S – one of the most desirable 993 models – in a very rare and striking color with ridiculously low mileage. That’s not all. It also came well optioned with sport seats, sport suspension, and the factory aerokit (along with a few other options). The total package makes for an extremely rare 993 and one that should attract tons of attention.

What’s not to love? It’s $170K. That’s A LOT!

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1998 Porsche 911 Carrera S on eBay

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Clark Gable’s 1957 Mercedes-Benz 300SL Roadster

Last week I checked out a 1957 Mercedes-Benz 190SL in Hellgrün which is a lovely, as well as much cheaper, alternative to the big brother 300SL. Well, today we have the big brother and believe it or not, it also is a 1957 in Hellgrün. Just to top it all off, it was owned by “The King of Hollywood” Clark Gable and has just 1,368 miles. But, as you might have guessed, this 300SL comes with a much higher price tag than the 190SL. Much, much higher.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: Clark Gable’s 1957 Mercedes-Benz 300SL Roadster at Classic Driver

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1982 Porsche 911SC Targa

Alright, let’s move away from green, but we’ll still keep things vibrant. This one also will be much more reasonably priced. Here we have a Guards Red 1982 Porsche 911SC Targa, located in Oregon, with 133,700 miles on it. If we want to see the relationship between the 911SC and yesterday’s 930, they both utilize a variant of Porsche’s 3.0 liter flat-six. Porsche took some of the lessons learned from development of the Turbo and applied it to this naturally aspirated 3.0 liter and through that was able to excavate itself from the issues that plagued the 2.7-liter engine that preceded it. The 3.0 liter is a stout and reliable engine when shown proper care and we’ve seen plenty with mileage exceeding 200K. Granted, some of those have been rebuilt, but it’s still a fine engine and a sound base for a sports coupe. Those looking at a 911SC now should feel secure knowing that these are very good engines.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1982 Porsche 911SC Targa on eBay

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Back Again: 1985 Audi 4000S quattro

Edit: After selling last year on Bring A Trailer for $5,050 after we featured it in April, the current owner of the 1985 Audi 4000S quattro with some nice modifications has decided it’s too nice for a winter beater. It’s back up on eBay with a $5,000 opening bid and reserve auction format with few changes since we saw it last year, but it’s still one of the better ones out there for sale.

If you like yesterday’s Audi 4000S quattro, finding a later example is likely to be more fruitful for you. About of the roughly 16,500 4000 quattros imported into the United States, roughly three quarters of them – about 12,000 – were the updated 1985-1987 model years. Changes to the package were mostly visual. Outside refreshed bumper covers with integrated turn signals and reflectors smoothed out the look far before BMW caught on to the idea in the 3-series. Aerodynamic headlights replaced the sealed-beam quad-headlight arrangement and a sloped grill eased the transition. In the rear the trunklid dove down to the trim line and held an entirely revised set of lights. Rocker panel covers made the 4000 appear a bit lower than the ’84 model had, though the ride height was unchanged. And a rolling change to flush fitting covers on the Ronal R8 wheels subtly changed the look to more aerodynamic. Inside, electric rear windows replaced the manual roll-up variety, and new door cards with pulls now matched the revamped dashboard. The gauges also changed, as did the locking differential panel. But mechanically under it all, few changes were seen to the workhorse. While numerically speaking you’re more likely to find a later car than the ’84 only style, if one car we cover better epitomizes the axiom “ridden hard and put away wet”, I’m not sure what it could be. Finding any reasonably clean 4000 quattro is a cause for celebration among B2 Audi enthusiasts, and this one sure looks great:

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1985 Audi 4000S quattro on eBay

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