1986 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 Project

Oh boy. Everyone loves a good project, right?

This poor 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 needs some help. Well, a lot help. Looking at the photos, I don’t know if it is worth saving. To make it short, the paint is totally gone, the suspension is sagging, there is rust in the trunk, and the interior is one step short of fire damage. But hey, at least it runs. Right? (Checks notes to see if it does actually run)

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 Project on eBay

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1965 Mercedes-Benz 600

Project cars are a very slippery slope. I’d say for every 100 projects that someone buys, maybe only a handful actually see the end of the line as “completed.” People love to get in over their heads in terms of what it will cost or the amount of skill it requires, with most of the time being a solid combination of both. Most of the time it is cheaper, easier, and much less painful just to buy the example you want totally original or already finished, then leave the projects for the professionals and retired folks with unlimited money.

However, there is one car that will bring anyone to it’s knees if you aren’t totally flush with cash and have a very specific set of knowledge: the Mercedes-Benz 600. I don’t need to go over the reasons why, but rather what it would take to get this 1965 up for sale in California back to its glory days. Also, this one has another little surprise.

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Winter Project: 1988 BMW M3

The E30 M3 has, for all intents and purposes, been driven out of the reach of most mortals with an average job. We all know that the market is a bit crazy on them, but you’re realistically looking at at least $40,000 for one with needs, and $50,000 to over $100,000 for a nice example. This drove me a few years ago to knock on a door when I saw a ratty example that was sitting under a tree down the road from me; alas, the owner ‘knew what he had’ and wasn’t going to part with it anytime soon.

Well, another ‘project’ M3 has popped up on eBay and it’s no reserve, so it was worth a look. Is this the way to save a few bucks and get into a legend?

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Winter Project: 2009 Audi A4/S4 Avant 6-Speed

The B8 A4 Avant is a pretty good looking car; but here in the US we were only offered the chassis in one figuration; the 2.0T quattro hooked to an automatic. Even when the “Allroad” returned to the lineup, it was really only an appearance package on the standard A4 with taller springs and larger sidewall tires. Considering the plethora of options that had been available on prior Audi wagons, it was an understandable disappointment.

Inspired by this, enthusiasts have sought to remedy the problem by combining the Avant’s platform with its sibling powertrain; this feels like ‘throwback’ tuning at its best! So here we have an ’09 A4 Avant that’s running the gear from a S4. Sweet! The thing is, it’s not quite complete…

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2009 Audi A4/S4 Avant on eBay

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Sciroller: 1988 Volkswagen Scirocco 16V

Stalled projects. If you’re a budget-minded enthusiast, they are both your best friend and your worst enemy. On more than one occasion, I’ve taken over a stalled project. Or, five.

“Can you believe someone would GIVE me an Audi Coupe GT? FOR FREE????”

Twice.

Of course, nothing is really free. Invariably, the subject is several hundred miles away. It’s not running. It’s missing key parts. It’s probably a little very dirty. And despite the low entry price, by the time you’re finished you’ll likely be upside down compared to a clean example you could have bought, enjoyed, and…perhaps…driven in that time you were saving dollars to sort your pile of parts.

But then you see the ad and you’re instant thought is “Oh MAN, look at all those good parts and potential!!!”

And the cycle continues…

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1988 Volkswagen Scirocco 16V on eBay

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Roll the Dice: 1990 Audi V8 quattro

Update 9/26/18: This V8 quattro sold for $1,775.

We’re going from one of the best 200 20V quattros out there to the more typical comparison point for an early 90s Audi – a project. I won’t bore you with all the details of what made the V8 quattro unique because I did so back in August when we looked at a very clean and tidy ’90 in Indigo Blue Metallic. Sufficed to say, they’re neat cars that all too often are parted out rather than going through the laborious task of keeping them afloat.

So here we have a ’90 V8 quattro. Like the majority, it is a 4-speed automatic in Pearlescent White Metallic. Generally speaking, I mentioned in my last few V8 posts that the cars to have are the rare 5-speed manuals, the less often seen 4.2, or the absolute best 3.6 you can find. But there are a few reasons to be interested in this particular one – let me tell you why:

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Roll the Dice Again? 1965 NSU Sport Prinz

With the burgeoning economic boom of the late 1950s (Adenauer’s ‘Economic Miracle’ in West Germany), many companies tried to capitalize on the success of the middle class by introducing swankier, more stylish versions of their economic models. The hope was that these cars would be expressions of wealth and signature models. To greater or lesser extent, the three that were developed around the same time – Volkswagen’s Karmann Ghia, BMW’s 700 Coupe and NSU’s Sport Prinz – were all relatively well received in the marketplace, though of the three only the Karmann Ghia had mass appeal. That was interesting, as the Sport Prinz offered a slightly different take on rakish Italian lines with pedestrian German underpinnings. Introduced for 1960, the Sport Prinz was built on the Prinz III chassis, a diminutive, air-cooled rear-engine inline-2 economy “sedan”. To take the Prinz upmarket, like Volkswagen NSU turned to Italy. Instead of Ghia or BMW’s choice of Michelotti, though, NSU enlisted famed Bertone in Turin and the designer Franco Scaglione. The resulting design was significantly more dramatic than the Prinz, with long overhands, a swoop roofline and tail fins hinting at greater GT speed. As with the others though, the Sport Prinz offered no performance gain, but at least came to market slightly under the price of the more famous Karmann Ghia, at around $2,400 – top for the NSU lineup in the early 1960s.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1965 NSU Sport Prinz on eBay

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Heap of the Week (Part II): 1971 Porsche 911T

The Heap of the Week has been a fun addition for those of us here at GCFSB. Sometimes it’s nice to take a break from searching for and writing up pristine examples of exciting cars and the Heap provides us just that sort of excursion. This week we have another potential project Porsche to feature. Unlike the high starting cost of last week’s 1962 356 Cabriolet Super, this 1971 Porsche 911T should be able to be had for much less money and could provide for a worthwhile investment of one’s time and energy (and more money). Long-hood Porsches of most any variant have seen a serious uptick in value amongst collectors so a potential restoration such as this one is certainly worth a look.

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Year: 1971
Model: 911T
Engine: 2.2 liter flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 118,223 mi
Price: Reserve Auction

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1971 Porsche 911T on eBay

Car was found in a barn after sitting for 17 years and had been 80’s blacked out, painted red several times and fiberglass front and rear bumpers added (front is still fiberglass). The heads had been removed from the engine and disassembled. I had the heads professionally reworked, valves and guides redone as needed and the motor reassembled to get it running. The carbs were cleaned and new gaskets installed. The engine and transmission were reinstalled, rebuilt the brake calipers, cleaned the gas tank, rebuilt clutch, installed new batteries, replaced brake and fuel lines, sourced and installed used heat exchangers, muffler, rear bumpers, license plate valence, interior and exterior mirrors etc. The car now runs drives and stops. The engine runs rough and would benefit from attention to the original Zenith carburetors and Marelli distributor. The cases were not split, just got the car running to evaluate the next step. Overall the car is very solid and a good candidate for restoration.

Condition is good for age of car, pictures show areas that need attention before painting. All gauges, lights work with the exception of speedo. Electric sunroof works.

VIN: 9111121452
Engine#: 6115926
Transmission#: 114909 (911/01)
Odometer: 18223
Clear Ky title
COA Matching #’s
Pastel Blue/ 20

For Photo Bucket link to 400+ pics please reply with request.

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The seller of this car sounds like he has a decent handle on the work done thus far and certainly that is a plus. This car definitely needs a bit of work both inside and out, but the body appears in reasonable condition and it has a working engine (albeit one that still needs attention). Bidding at the moment is low at $2,247, but that is with the reserve still on. It’s always difficult to gauge a seller’s reserve on cars like these, but for anyone interested in reaping the rewards of a project Porsche an inquiry with the seller wouldn’t hurt. Even if this car is never returned to collector condition, putting it back into driving shape, or even converting it to a track car, should provide for time well spent and a fun car to take out for some weekend backroads.

-Rob

Heap of the Week (Part I): 1965 Mercedes-Benz 220 SE Coupe

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We’ve featured some neat and rare cars in the “Heap of the Week” feature, and here’s another seldom seen model that is in need of your love. When I look for these cars, I often feel like looking through the ads should be accompanied by soft Sarah McLachlin “Arms of the Angel” playing in the background. There are plenty of hard luck cases that it would just be great to save. For example, this week there was a neat Karmann Ghia coupe and there always seem to be plenty of rusty buses available. There also always seem to be a glut of older Mercedes-Benz models that someone thought they would restore and never completed. Such is the case with today’s rare 220 SE Coupe. 1965 was the last year of the 220 SE as they shifted towards larger engines in the W111. Correctly done, they’re very pretty and stately Coupes, with a pillar-less design that seems elegant compared to later models. Today’s example is in need of a hefty amount of work, but is available for a low purchase price:

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Year: 1965
Model: 220 SE Coupe
Engine: 2.2 liter inline-6
Transmission: 3-speed automatic
Mileage: N/A mi
Price: $4,500 Buy It Now

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1965 Mercedes-Benz 220 SE Coupe on Ebay

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VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED FOR A RESTORATION PROJECT YEARS AGO BUT WAS NOT COMPLETED.

PARTS CAR OR PROJECT. NO CALIFORNIA TITLE. IMPORTED FROM GERMANY IN 1983 CUSTOMS DUTY PAID BUT NO TITLE WAS EVER ISSUED. CAR IS LEGALLY IN CALIFORNIA UNITED STATES BUT NOT REGISTERED OR TITLE ISSUED.

1965 220SEB, ORIGINALLY PURCHASED FROM GERMANY IN 1983 AND SENT TO LOS ANGELES, WHERE IT HAS BEEN SINCE. ENGINE WAS RUNNING AROUND 5 YEARS AGO AND HAS NOT BEEN STARTED AFTER. ALL PARTS PICTURED ARE INCLUDED WITH PURCHASE. CAR IS SOLD AS IS, AS A PARTS CAR OR PROJECT CAR. CAR COMES WITH GERMAN TITLE, NOT CALIFORNIA TITLE. REGISTRATION IS NOT CURRENT. IF BUYER WISHES TO REGISTER CAR, BUYER WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE NECESSARY STEPS TO COMPLETE. OTHERWISE KEEP AS A PARTS CAR. THERE IS SOME RUST, BODY NEEDS WORK. THE CAR IS LOCATED IN WESTLAKE VILLAGE CALIFORNIA AROUND 40 MINUTES NORTH OF LOS ANGELES. I WILL ASSIST IN SHIPPING VEHICLE BUT ALL ARRRANGEMENTS WILL HAVE TO BE MADE BY BUYER. PICK UP IS RECOMMENDED BUT IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE OR COUNTRY CAR CAN BE SHIPPED. NO GUARANTEES, NO WARRANTIES, CAR IS SOLD AS IS. DEPOSIT OF $500.00 USD IS REQUIRED WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER WINNING BID IS MADE BY PAYPAL. REMAINDER OF BALANCE IS TO BE PAID WITHIN 48 HOURS OR AT PICK UP IF ARRANGED. PLEASE BE SURE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE PRIOR TO BIDDING.

INCLUDED ONE SET OF DOORS NO EXTRA DOORS OR BODY PARTS. I WILL CONSIDER OFFERS BUT NOT REDICULOU$ ONES. THESE PARTS ARE BECOMING MORE RARE EVERY DAY.

I MOSTLY SELL MERCEDES PARTS AND ACCESSORIES. OFTEN I HAVE A FRIEND ASK ME TO SELL SOMETHING FOR THEM. I TAKE AS MUCH PRIDE IN MY NON-MERCEDES ITEMS. I MAKE SURE ALL MY ITEMS MEET HIGH STANDARDS. PLEASE KNOW IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT IS NOT MY SPECIALTY, I HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE RECEIVING A GOOD PRODUCT FOR A FAIR PRICE. WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE MERCEDES BUSINESS FOR OVER 50 YEARS. WE HAVE A GOOD SELECTION OF PARTS AND GOOD SOURCES FOR THEM. PLEASE EMAIL US IF YOU NEED A PART YOU DO NOT SEE LISTED.

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While this model has been taken apart for restoration that restoration never happened. Fortunately, the pictures seem to document that most of the trim pieces remain intact, though it appears this car will need a healthy dose of time and energy to get it back to working order. When and if that occurred, it could look something like this:

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There are several problems, though – in addition to the headache of restoring this car, there’s the headache of sorting out the correct paperwork, as it retains a German title. I’d imagine that could be creatively overcome given the age of the car, but it will take some legwork. Second is the much larger problem; value. These cars, even in very good condition, seem to be on the lower end of the classic Mercedes-Benz market – it’s not uncommon to see clean examples trading below $20,000, and Hagerty lists the average value for the 220 Coupe right around $18,000. So, that leaves you a budget of less than $15,000 to make this car a viable option. Let me be first to say “No way”. Unless you own the body shop, are a handy backyard mechanic and have some favors owed to you by an upholsterer, there’s just no way you can get it done and have the car be under the value of a decent one. That’s a shame because it’s a cool, rare car that doesn’t deserve to die (cue the Sarah McLachlin) and it would be great to see it restored. If it were a cabriolet, it would be a no-brainer. But unfortunately, even if this one was free, I’m still not certain it would be worth the time and effort to restore to original condition.

-Carter

1991 Audi 90 20V Quattro 2 for 1 project

Last month I wrote up a very clean Ginster Yellow 1990 Audi Coupe Quattro, a rare color on a rare car. However, if you thought that was rare, today’s Audi duo is nearly extinct – the Coupe Quattro’s twin 4 door brother, the 90 20V Quattro. The Coupe version outsold the sedan at a nearly three to one clip, and with massive depreciation and heavy use, few remain today. While it’s downright hard to find a one in good shape, I found a two-for-one deal driver/project on Ebay today. Winter is coming soon, and it’s time to start thinking about winter drivers and ice racing; few are better than the early Quattros in the snow:

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Year: 1991
Model: 90 20V Quattro (x2)
Engine: 2.3 liter inline-5
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 159,605 and 161,514 mi
Price: No Reserve Auction, $2,700 opening bid

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1991 Audi 90 20V Quattro 2 for 1 on eBay

1991 Audi Sport 20V (Qty. 2)

Yes this auction is for two (2) Audi 90 Quattro 20V sedans. As you know, the 20V was brought into the United States for just 2 years (1990-1991)

These cars were imported as 2 door coupes and much rarer 4 door sedans as these are. Fewer than 500 sedans are believed to have been imported.

These are the 2nd gen Audi “Quattro’s” when AWD cars in the U.S. were pretty much unheard of. These 2.3L, 5 cyl, 164HP Quattro’s were developed for Rally racing in Europe at the time.They came with 5 speed transmissions, VDO gauges, differential lock and ABS, sport tuned suspensions, rear spoiler and BBS “mesh” wheels stock.

The main car is a great running vehicle. Bought from the original owner and sold new in Reno, NV where it has lived it’s rust free life. It drives/steers/stops fine and has that unmistakable exhaust growl of the rare Audi 5 cyl 20V engine. The interior needs cleaning and the seats been recovered in naugahyde. It has had an inexpensive repaint/respray as well. The front valance is cracked and needs repair. It has the optional Driver’s and Passenger’s power seats. However, Driver’s side seat motor is binding somewhere. It also has the Cold Weather Package-heated seats, heated windshield washer nozzles and heated door locks. Mileage-159,605

If that’s not enough, there is another Audi Sport 20V as a “parts car” or it would be possible to restore this one as well. It has an incredible cloth interior with little wear and would look nice in the other car. It has been a donor car for the last few years to the above car but is mainly complete. I consider it a parts car as there is a crack in the oil filter housing on the block and leaks oil. It might be able to be repaired by a competent welder. It also has no key and the steering wheel is locked making it pretty hard to steer as you can see by the odd angles of the wheels. We had this car loaded/unloaded by a forklift on a flatbed trailer. This car is NOT running at this time.

Mileage- 161,514

Thanks for looking and remember, one BID and this car will sell. Feel free to call/email with any questions. (775)843-7911

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They say misery loves company, so if you’re ever concerned your broken Audi would need company, this one comes with a not-so-imaginary friend. That’s actually a nice bonus on a car like the 90 20V, which has some unique parts not found on other Audis, such as the brake assemblies. The running vehicle doesn’t seem to need much to be a reasonable daily driver, but the seller’s suggestion of restoring the parts car may be a bit of a reach. With older Audis having a spare of most items – especially electric – isn’t a bad plan. The parts car has the more desirable “quattro script” interior, but although labeled as “Sport” neither is the sport package of this car – those came with a unique version of the Coupe Quattro Speedline wheels. Although the repaint is a blue similar to Oceanic Blue Metallic, from the door sills it seems both of these cars were Lago Blue Metallic originally. I mention this only because Lago is famous for having clearcoat issues which may explain the repaint. With an opening bid at $2700 and no reserve, the seller is probably in the right ballpark for pricing – I would guess this duo would be worth no more than $4,000 in current state.

-Carter