Tuner Tuesday Roll The Dice? 1986 Porsche 930 Ruf

A fair majority of our “roll the dice” features have been cars with high mileage, dubious modifications, or poor maintenance. The question marks are exchanged for, generally speaking, a budget price relative to the rest of the market.

This Porsche has none of that.

What we have here is a 1985 Porsche 930. Even if the air is cooling slightly in the 911 Turbo market, and while there’s probably only a premium on really original early and late examples, one from the middle of production like this isn’t to be shooed away immediately. Second, this car has really quite low mileage reported at under 15,000. Condition looks to be very good, and the car is marketed to be an originally Ruf-modified example. The price is certainly not budget-friendly for most outside of Wall Street. So where’s the rolling of dice to be seen?

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Tuner Tuesday: 2006 RUF RT12S

In a strange comparison to earlier’s 500SL 412, here’s another matte black car. It, too, is German. Outside of that, the two share little in common.

That’s because unlike the Mercedes-Benz which was primarily a piece of marketing, this is from the workshop of Alois Ruf. And Ruf’s cars are all about performance. So even though this 997-based turbocharged RUF RT12S is over a decade old, it still produces more power than the current 911 Turbo. Over 100 more. It’s faster, too – get the launch just right and mash the gas, and RUF claimed you’ll hit 60 m.p.h. in 2.8 seconds. When Road and Track tested it, the R12 did a standing mile in 28 seconds at 187.5 mph. In the time it’s probably taken you to read this first paragraph (35 seconds), the RT would be past 200 on its way to the 224 mph top speed. Yet it wasn’t just about raw speed; like all RUFs, it was beautifully built and full of exquisite detail work on par with leading manufacturers.

But while the speed is certainly impressive, it’s not the reason why I decided to feature this car…

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2006 RUF RT12S on eBay

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1991 Porsche 911 Turbo Ruf Conversion

Let’s move to the other end of the 964 Turbo spectrum because I’m sure yesterday’s ultra-low-mileage Turbo, while beautiful and very interesting, would present most prospective buyers with plenty of issues. Notably the very high price and the fact that it is basically undriveable given that price. This Black 1991 Porsche 911 Turbo, located in Houston, possesses neither of those issues. For starters, it has 118,115 miles on it so there should be no problem adding plenty of extra miles just as Porsche’s engineers intended. And it’s $400K cheaper!

There is more: this doesn’t appear to be an entirely standard Turbo. While the details are scanty we’re told that the engine has undergone a Ruf conversion, which I presume is along the lines of the engine work that brought us the BTR. That would mean we’re looking at something in the neighborhood of 374 hp, or perhaps this is the full BTR III Motronic treatment raising power to 408. In either guise it will be very fast!

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1991 Porsche 911 Turbo on eBay

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Year: 1991
Model: 911 Turbo
Engine: 3.3 liter turbocharged flat-6
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 118,155 mi
Price: $89,750 Buy It Now

Documented with lots and lots of service receipts including an 8 grand recent one, bone dry with no oil leaks, RUF Conversion done by RAC, the list include;
.RUF BR 3.3 Build
.Cam, Valvetrain
.Tune
.Headers
.Exhaust
.K24 Turbo
.Suspension
.993 Big Red Brakes
.RUF strut brace
.Mats
.RH Wheels, (Speedline style).

Thank you for choosing MW Carline as your premier high line dealer. Our inventory is hand picked and inspected, only the top 10% is presented to our valuable clients, honesty, integrity, honor and passion drives us. We promise to treat you with respect before, during and after the transaction. We stand behind the vehicles we sell and have developed a loyal client base over the years. We accept vehicle trades, and can handle any of your vehicle needs, including: Financing, transport anywhere in the United States and in any corner of the globe, we can individualize your vehicle from cosmetic modifications to performance upgrades. We continuously strive to exceed our clients expectations. We also buy your quality car even if you don’t buy from us.

As with many 911s we find occupying the reasonable value side of the scale, buyers will need to do a bit of investigation. We aren’t provided with much to validate any of the information in the ad, though we do see that there is a binder of records and that should provide a nice start for anyone to come to terms with this Turbo’s current state. Obviously, the biggest piece will be documentation of the conversion. We know it wasn’t performed in house by Ruf so that isn’t our concern, but it would still help clear up any questions about what sort of conversion we have here. Naturally, a PPI also is a must and hopefully that binder has plenty of maintenance records.

Frankly, this 911 looks fantastic! Inside and out the condition appears quite good. It would be nice to know if this is original paint and interior, but just on appearance there isn’t a whole lot that stands out. Not perfect, but at nearly 120K miles, not bad at all. Assuming our questions about documentation can be answered I also think the price isn’t bad. We don’t see too many 964 Turbos falling below $100K and those that do tend to have similarly high miles. But they lack the Ruf conversion. Purely on performance this could actually be a very nice value.

-Rob

Tuner Tuesday: 1994 Porsche 911 Ruf Speedster

This might be the best 911 Speedster I’ve ever seen. That this wonderful Speedster wears Ruf badging probably should not surprise us though in some ways it is sort of a surprising Ruf vehicle. It shows all of the terrific attention to detail we’ve come to expect from Ruf and its Ferrari paint helps make clear it is not your standard 911 Speedster. We aren’t told how many miles it’s traveled in total in its life, but it’s said to be restored and has seen under 2K miles since that restoration. The overall condition appears excellent.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1994 Porsche 911 Ruf Speedster on Ruf Automobile

Year: 1994
Model: 911 Speedster
Engine: 3.6 liter flat-6
Transmission: 6-speed manual
Mileage: 2,300 km (~ 1429 mi) since restoration
Price: Inquire

Great condition – fully restored

Date of first registration: January 1993
Mileage after restoration: ca. 2.300 km
3,6 Liter 6-Cylinder Boxerengine
184 kW (250 HP) at 6.100 rpm
310 Nm at 4.800 rpm

Manual 6-Speed Transmission
Rear wheel drive

Exteriorcolour: Ferrari Rosso Mugello red
Interiorcolour/-material: Black leather, red stitching
Black roof top
Red CarpetHeadlight washing system
Climate control
Lightweight door covers
Radio incl. navigation system
Sport suspension
Sport bucket seats
Sport steering wheel
Seat back painted in exterior colour
RUF 18“ Classic Aluminium wheels

For sale on behalf of customer

Please contact us at 0049 (0) 8265-911 911 or info@ruf-automobile.de

While I wouldn’t say I’ve done an exhaustive search, my searching has come up with little information about this Speedster other than the basic details seen in the ad text here. Aesthetically, it’s received a full interior treatment that looks fantastic alongside its Rosso Mugello exterior and sports 18″ Ruf wheels. Mechanically, the standard 5-speed has been swapped for a 6-speed manual transmission and it now has a sport suspension, presumably developed by Ruf. It also seems clear that there hasn’t been much engine work beyond mechanical refreshing. Horsepower and torque remain those of the standard Speedster. A lack of additional power isn’t unheard of in a Ruf automobile, but it’s not generally how we think of them. This isn’t a Speedster that has undergone a significant transformation, but rather most everything has been improved by a matter of degree. As a sum, it comes together quite well. I’m sure we’d all like to see it with a little more power, but I guess nothing is perfect.

We aren’t told the asking price for this Speedster here, but in a previous listing the asking price was €295K (~ $315K). That’s a lot of money and certainly much more than what even some of the best 964 Speedsters sell for, but it’s not unheard of for a true Ruf car to achieve such high values. I don’t know whether other Speedsters like this exist; this is the only one I’ve seen and as noted above even with regard to this one there isn’t much information available. I would definitely love to know more as this is one of the most unique 964s out there.

-Rob

Tuner Tuesday – Values in the RUF: 2002 Porsche 911 Ruf 550s

RUF is a name which is among the most highly respected tuners in the world, creating legendary power, looks and speed among a series of cars that was already quite potent. But they’re very expensive cars, too – fully spec one out from Ruf, and you can easily double the price of your Porsche, sometimes more. These are not machines for mere mortals.

Yet value can still be found in, and today I’ve got 1,100 horsepower to prove it. This Double Take looks at two 2002 911 Turbos, both of which have been upgraded with the RUF 550 kit. Which is the winner?

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Tuner Tuesday: 1987 Porsche 930 Coupe

Modified cars from the 1980s enjoy are and interesting exercise in dichotomy. Take AMG, for example – add the flares, wide wheels, hunkered down suspension and turned up engine to a W126 and the asking price increases from a standard model by a factor of ten. What is strange about the AMG model, though, is that enthusiasts of the Affalterbach company accept licensed installers as proper original builds. Such is not the case when it comes to tuners like Alpina, Hartge and Ruf; generally speaking, in those cases the only “true” original examples came from the manufacturer’s facilities in Germany. In these cases, examples that are properly sorted and original can be worth double, triple or even quadruple what an identically modified car from a licensed installer in the U.S. would be worth. On top of that, AMG continues to be a bit of an aberration in the tuner realm since most other period modified examples of Porsches, BMWs, and Audis are worth less than a pristine stock example. It’s a bit of a head scratcher, since generally speaking, companies such as Alpina and Ruf put out equally good looking products when compared to AMG, and properly modified were just as luxurious and just as fast. Nevertheless, a tastefully modified example like this period Ruf-modified 1987 Porsche 930 just doesn’t seem to draw the same attention as a AMG 560SEC Widebody 6.0 would, for example. Let’s take a look at what a reported $75,000 in mods got you in the late 1980s:

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Tuner Tuesday: 1996 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S Ruf BTR Conversion

We’re all pretty familiar with Ruf’s long history of producing automobiles derived from a Porsche chassis. Their ethos falls similarly in line with Porsche itself, though with everything turned up a notch (or in some cases many notches). Whether they are Ruf-modified Porsches or possess an actual Ruf VIN, these cars combine the best of high performance and refinement. One of the cars we see most frequently is the BTR, which used the 3.2 Carrera as the basis for producing a variant of the 911 Turbo. The successor to that model, generally called the BTR2, was produced for the 993 and is the car we see here. They could use most any configuration of the 993, whether the rear-drive Carrera 2 or the all-wheel drive Carrera 4 (though I’ve even come across one based off of a Turbo S) as their base and from there received the typical Ruf treatment that provided a single turbocharger, modified suspension and braking, and a redesigned interior with integrated roll cage. Since either the Carrera 2 or Carrera 4 could provide a base, Ruf was providing either an alternative to the 993 Turbo in its all-wheel drive configuration or a toned down version of the GT2 with rear drive. The example we see here began life as a Carrera 4S prior to being shipped off to Pfaffenhausen for its conversion and features a fairly interesting interior showing off what seems to be a cross between houndstooth and tartan inserts. I’m not sure what we’d call that, but it’s quite eye catching!

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Tuner Tuesday: 2001 Ruf RGT

You’d be forgiven for not knowing much about this model because Ruf has been known mostly for their outrageous turbocharged models and the RGT was their first real stab at a naturally aspirated model. But a pretty serious stab it was, with a GT3 derived dry-sump flat-6 pumping out 385 horsepower from 3.6 liters – some 30 more than Porsche managed from the same motor. This goal was reached by massaging the heads with larger valves, integrating Ruf’s proprietary engine software along with model specific catalytic converters and exhaust. Performance was close to Turbo levels, with 60 arriving in 4.6 seconds and a terminal speed reported to be 190 m.p.h.. The narrow bodywork also had special Ruf front and rear bumpers along with a purposeful wing that mimicked the race cars, and indeed was later similarly adopted by Porsche on the post-facelift GT3. It ran alongside the first generation 996 GT3 as an equally potent but (theoretically, at least) more street-biased suspension setup. Compared to that model, the expensive Ruf model was apparently a bit of a headscratcher for most and apparently only 17 were produced in the year this car was made. I was lucky enough to see one of these cars new at Summit Point back in 2001; at a time when the GT3 was unavailable in the U.S., it was certainly a revelation to see the lightweight race-inspired RGT and in Viper Green it reminded me of the car which ultimately inspired it – the original RS. Today’s car is a different kind of revelation and is certainly one of the most unique RGTs out there:

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Tuner Tuesday “What Not To Wear” Porsche Faceoff – 1977 911 Turbo Cabriolet v. 1994 Strosek 911 Turbo S Widebody Speedster

Here’s something a little different for Tuner Tuesday! Last July and September respectively I wrote up two terribly expensive and terribly tuned 911 convertibles. The first was a Strosek 911 Turbo S Speedster back in July, and the second was a 1977 911 Targa that was converted into a 993-bodied turbo cabriolet that was simply marvelous if you believed the interior. In a not particularly surprising development, both are back up for sale having had no takers the first time around. The question I pose to our readers is which is a better (or worse?) deal? I’ve put my original posts below starting with the 1977 and I wasn’t particularly complimentary to either, but let me know in the comments which is really “what not to wear”?

The below post originally appeared on our site September 1, 2015:

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Feature Listing: 2002 Porsche 911 Turbo with 11,000 Miles

Do you ever have those moments where you look back 5-10 years and think of the cars you could have bought so much more cheaply than they appear on the market today? I think back to cars like a few I mentioned this morning – the M3 and Quattro – that could be had in great condition for under $10,000 only a decade ago. Then there are cars on the cusp of taking off – cars like the 190E 2.3-16 and 944 Turbo – that are currently still attainable, but one wonders for how long. Moving up a few leagues from the minors in the majors, though, and it wasn’t very long ago that Porsche 911s weren’t astronomically expensive. Think the E30 M3 is bad? Let’s talk about cars like the 930. In May, 2013 Hagerty valued an absolute top condition 1986 Turbo around $60,000. Today, the same estimate is $315,000 – amazingly, down slightly from last fall when $325,000 was the top number. If you pardon the poor pun, the 930 has simply outpaced the stock market many times over, proving it has supercar staying power.

The same can be said of the car that replaced it, the 964 Turbo. Even a standard 3.3 went from a top value of $50,000 in September, 2014 to a pretty steady $275,000 today. Are these numbers always being realized? Perhaps not, but it certainly gives us a value trend. And that leads us to the 996 turbo model. The 996 has been demonized left, right and center for being watercooled, ugly and even fragile, though at least the latter doesn’t necessarily apply to the turbo model. The result of that is it is, without a doubt, the most performance you can buy on a reasonable budget with a Porsche badge attached to it. There’s another school of thought, though – and that is that the 996 won’t remain a budget forever. It’s impossible to predict if there will be a similar bubble to these cars, but the rumor mill seems to be swirling that people in the know are picking up excellent examples in the anticipation that it just could take off:

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 2002 Porsche 911 Turbo at Sun Valley Autos

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