Roll the Dice: 1985 Porsche 928S

We’ve been running with the “Roll the Dice” posts for a little while now, but this will be the first time I have taken a foray into that segment. While all of the marques featured in such posts pose inherent financial risk, Porsche may represent the riskiest of all since the price of entry is in many cases already rather high. This is especially the case with my most favored car, the 911. But I really want to like this car and given its current state, a roll of the dice may be just want you’re looking at.

This is a 1985 Porsche 928S in the very rare combination of Prussian Blue Metallic over a Can-can Red interior. It’s a very striking combination and one that I absolutely love. Prussian Blue makes for a very pretty exterior color, but without being flashy. Can-can Red is…well it’s all flash. The juxtaposition of the two colors works great and you’re certain to attract plenty of attention. It’s also not something we see on the 928 too often. And that’s why I like this 928 quite a bit. It helps that both the exterior and interior look in nice shape. It’s mechanical condition…that’s where the roll of the dice comes in because the seller seems to have a decent sense of what the problems are, but not necessarily the cause of those problems.

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Porsche 928 Roundup

Last month, I had the pleasure of stopping by the 19th annual 928 Frenzy in Sterling, Virginia. In all the years of being a car enthusiast, rarely have I come across a more tight knit and dedicated group of enthusiasts devoted towards one model of vehicle. I’ve learned a lot about these V8 GT cars through fellow enthusiasts over at flüssig magazine and from Jim Doerr at 928 Classics. If you are a fan or owner of the 928 and haven’t checked out either of these sites, you would be well advised to do so. These are people who are helping keep the dream alive when it comes to Porsche’s beloved V8 coupe.

The 928 is a special car and really stands apart from both its contemporaries and modern sports cars of today. While some of the 911 set deride it, the 928 was the first clean sheet design from Porsche. So good was this design, it would last almost 20 years, still looking strikingly current at the end of its production run in 928GTS form. Taking a cue from Carter’s 924 Roundup earlier in the week, let’s take a moment to pay homage to this great GT car and take a look at the different variants throughout the years, staring off with this 1978 928 for sale in Italy.

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1983 Porsche 928S 5-Speed Euro-Spec – REVISIT

The market has spoken, and the 1983 European-spec Porsche 928S 5-speed I wrote up back in August is still available having been relisted several times. Pricing has dropped $400 to just below $10,000 since August; surprising given the perceived lack of interest over that time. While there are some issues to sort overall this still looks like a pretty decent and rare Porsche to get into with 1980s 911 prices now rapidly heading up. What price would you pay for this neat bit of Euro goodness and would you keep the 944 Turbo alloys or run the original forged “manhole covers”?

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1985 Porsche 928S 5-Speed – REVISIT

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We can’t get enough of the 928s today. The seller of the great condition 1985 Porsche 928S 5-speed has contacted once again to let us know he reduced his price to $15,999. With recent mechanical work and tires and an overall impressive condition, these mid-generation 928s are great performers that still look amazingly fresh even 30 years later. While you may be able to find a cheaper non-S model or automatic, these 5-speed 928Ss are certain to appreciate in value over the coming years and provide plenty of entertainment along the way. If you’re looking for a no-excuses, no stories foray into classic Porsche ownership this is a fantastic option. You can contact the seller if you’re interested directly at cvisconage@gmail.com or phone 410.218.7712.

The below post originally appeared on our site May 14, 2014:

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1983 Porsche 928S 5-speed Euro-Spec

It’s been both great and bad to have a resource like Flüssig Magazine’s Pablo join our ranks. It’s great because Pablo is a wealth of knowledge and a great resource on these classic front-engined Porsches; it’s bad because I’m now petrified I’ll make a mistake or choose a bad example. Sometimes, though, you need to roll the dice – and today’s European-spec 1983 928S is just one of those times. Presented in light bronze with brown leather, this 928 looks both refined and striking – but is it a good example to buy?

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1985 Porsche 928S 5-Speed

I’ve spent a fair amount of time talking about how the 944 – especially the Turbo and S2 – have seemed to remain one of the best values in German motoring; on paper and in real life easily the match for their more popular 911 friends, they’re generally available for a fraction of the entry price into the much more air-cooled world. However, there’s another way to travel in Porsche style as well; the car that was intended to replace the 911. A revolutionary design in the 1970s that still looks remarkably fresh today, the 928 is a supreme grand tourer with plenty of power, a fantastic sound track and a tremendous amount of presence and personality. While it’s a very different character than the 911, they’re well built cars that don’t get the attention that they should. If you’re an enthusiast, that means you can pick up a great example on a budget – at least, for now:

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1980 Porsche 928S Euro

I have extolled the virtues of the 928 in previous features so I won’t belabor that point and will get straight to the car featured here: a 1980 Porsche 928S Euro model. That this is a Euro model is key. A good GT car should provide somewhat effortless acceleration in order to propel its driver forward with all of the elegance and haste that such a driver might require. These are, after all, performance machines. In the US market, however, that performance was limited by emissions requirements to a paltry 231 hp in 1980. While that figure would creep up, it wasn’t until 1985 that the North American 928 came with 288 hp and not until the release of the S4 in 1987 that output would surpass the 297 hp produced by the car featured here. This car isn’t perfect; it comes with a few flaws and is an automatic rather than a manual, but for a buyer who might really desire an early-80s 928 a Euro model is the way to go and this low mileage example might make for a good option.

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Year: 1980
Model: 928S
Engine: 4.7 liter V8
Transmission: 3-speed automatic
Mileage: 32,311 mi
Price: $17,900

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Really nice original Low Mileage 1980 928s Euro. Licensed and currently driven in New York State USA.(though not for too many miles) grey market 928s Euro. Originally owned by a MD, was stored for about 20 years upon his death. New brakes and tires after removal from storage. Runs great, sounds awesome, feels really good to drive. Most powerful V8 motor sold in Porsche 928 that year. Front air dam and rear spoiler. Paint is good, but there are some swirls from buffing and a couple of stars in the paint you can find if you look long enough. The leather is pulled back about 1/4″ from the vent above the passenger seating and needs re-gluing in the rear quarter behind the driver. A good craftsman should be able to fix these. I bought a replacement power antenna, it needs to be installed. Climate control fan works only in defrost position. Passenger window is up and will not roll down.
There just were not that many of these cars made and imported to the US. This one is really nice original with really low mileage.
Please ask any questions or better yet, come and take the car for a drive. Matt (716)498-0467

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A Brown on Brown color palette is certainly a period correct choice and for the most part the exterior and interior look to be in good shape for a car over 30 years old. The seller has noted the car’s flaws so we can at least approach this sale with the right expectations. At $17,900 the price is high for a 928 of this vintage, but it’s difficult to gauge the increased market value of a Euro model. To get the performance of a S4 with this low of a mileage figure would probably cost more than the selling price here so the price isn’t egregious. Either way, this is sure to be an interesting car and for the right buyer it should make for a good highway cruiser.

-Rob

1985 Porsche 928S – REVISIT

The 1985 Porsche 928S we featured back in April failed to meet its reserve on its initial listing and has been relisted. This Reserve Auction originally was listed with a Buy It Now price of $23,500 and the relisting shows a reduced Buy It Now price of $18,500. For reference, this 928 was listed about a month ago and sold for $17,680. That car was slightly higher mileage than this one, so the new price listed here seems more inline with the current 928 market.

1985 Porsche 928S – REVISIT

The below post originally appeared on our site April 5, 2013:

It’s rather amazing that 36 years after its introduction, the Porsche 928 still looks fresh. In 1977, it must have appeared to have arrived from another planet. Integrated bumpers, a streamlined shape and potent V8 power were meant to take over where the 911 was about to leave off. Funny then, that the 911 has carried on almost twenty years after the last 928 rolled off the line. These grand tourers are beginning to creep up in value, but are still lagging a bit behind most 911s. Buy a really cheap one, though, and it could put you in the poor house. This 928S for sale near Philadelphia is a low mileage minter with the desirable 5-speed manual gearbox.

Year: 1985
Model: 928S
Engine: 5.0 liter V8
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 25,300
Price: $23,500 Buy It Now

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You are bidding on a 2 owner 1985 Porsche 928S. This is a RARE 5-speed manual transmission,less than 500 units built this model year. Automatics dominated 1985 sales and are more available and much cheaper. Vehicle has 25,300 original miles. (This will change as I drive it when weather permits). Car comes with original purchase and service records, all owner’s manuals and key set and documentation service in the DC area. This is not the six thousand dollar 928 you hear about. (The wheels and tires alone would cost almost that much)!

Now what you SHOULD worry about……..in the last 2 months….NEW timing belt with NEW Pork tensioner system, NEW water pump. NEW rear coupler bushings (PIA to replace) flushed radiator and changed oil and filter. All other fluids clean and full (brakes, transaxle). Front and rear wheel bearings checked and adjusted as necessary. Breaks are great. ALL electronics and on board computers are working as they should. The back of my fuse/relay panel is all properly connected grey wires. The #42 fuse for the fuel pump is segregated. In other words the electronics are as they should be with NO jumpers or other homemade electronic configurations!!!

Front tires (Bridgestone Potenza) almost new 235s and the rear tires 285s are new. The wheels “real” Porsche Carrera III, 18”. The rear wheels were professionally refinished and LOOK NEW. The front wheels look great with a just a “smudge” on a spoke on the right front. If wheels and tires make a car…..consider this “made.” As you can see in the pictures the car really sits nice. I think the wheel/ tire combination is perfect. I have the stock wheels and almost new tires to go with the car at my asking price. I have a NEW Lizard short shifter ready to be installed. I will include with asking price.

What else….you can do a lot to a six thousand dollar 928 but it will cost you another 20 to make it as nice as this one. BODY/PAINT/INTERIOR all near period perfect. New Lloyd’s floor mats. It was cleaned up of any imperfections, scratches ,door dings, etc. before I bought it. The paint on this car looks great. Porsche Guards Red. A few repaired stone chips and 1 small size ding on exhaust cut out. (I don’t notice it) NO evidence of it ever being in an accident. Other than that I can honestly say this is a well cared for 25,000 mile interior. Interior is a 9 out of 10? OK so what are the cons? A few drips of oil from rear cam covers. Not enough to worry about. Nine dollar part and labor (I’m guessing 2-3hrs).

The rear hatch sounds like it’s working but isn’t. The professional 928 mechanic I use thinks we can adjust it. That being said…this car has been gone over and repaired by a “well known” 928 expert in the Mid Atlantic/North East region. He’s a good guy and if you’re really in the game I think we can get him to speak with you. The service manuals are a 9 set binder. I have a condensed version that is one manual but I have the 6 CD Jim Morehouse manual. Please call with any questions. With the above exceptions, EVERYTHING WORKS! This is a great ride. 610-368-3673. Good luck bidding. I may end auction early for a local sale or trade.

The last 928 we featured was a 1983 model and was listed at $22,500. It had similar mileage but didn’t have the later 5.0 liter engine that this car does. It seems that extremely low mileage 928s from the mid 1980s are reaching into the low $20,000 range, but if you look hard enough, there are still examples out there that can be had in the $15,000 to $18,000 range. The 5-speeds seem to bring a little bit more cash, since they are more rare and tend to be favored by more hardcore enthusiasts. Reach any lower than $15,000, though, and it could be a gamble.

-Paul

1986.5 Porsche 928S

Long considered the step child in the ranks, front engine Porsches have been gaining in popularity over the past decade. Popular sentiment has shifted towards acceptance of cars other than the 911 with the Porsche crest on the bonnet. While the 924 and 944 are great choices for those who want a car to carve up the back roads or hit a track day or two, the 928 is one of the best grand touring machines of the era. With V8 power and a good amount of them equipped with an automatic transmission, they are perfect for eating up the miles, especially if you live in the car’s home country and can exploit its power. This 928 for sale in Pennsylvania has the 5.0 liter V8 and is equipped with a 5-speed manual gearbox, making it a better proposition for those who want to be involved in every aspect of this brute from Stuttgart.

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Year: 1986.5
Model: 928S
Engine: 5.0 liter V8
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 41,600 mi
Price: Reserve auction

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1986.5 928S

5-speed

Original Black Paint with Burgundy leather interior

41,600 Original Miles

VIN # WPOJB0929GS861856

Fantastic example in great condition. I purchased this vehicle in 2011 with 40K miles on it and updated a great deal. The following list of updates or preventive work was completed over the past 16 months. All mechanical work was completed by a local shop that specializes in Porsche cars. Can provide the name and contact information of mechanic for serious buyers. The car is fast and handles great.

1. Truck Latch Repaired

2. LED light refresh interior

3. Trunk and Hood Struts

4. Hood Liner for engine compartment.

5. New Hood release cable and control

6. Porken Chip Set V4

7. Porken Tensioner

8. Porken Q Rings

9. Gates Timing Belt

10. All Fuses

11. ABD and Fog Light Relay

12. Water Pump

13. Fuel Pump

14. Fuel Pressure Regulator

15. Vacuum Line Refresh

16. Fuel Line Refresh

17. O2 Sensor

18. X Pipes (have original)

19. Cam Cover Gaskets

20. All Washer Pumps and plumbing

21. BOSCH Plug Wires

22. New Shocks (OEM)

23. Electrical Rotors

24. Dash Dimmer Switch

25. Combination Switch (Steering wheel cluster)

26. New Chin Spoiler

27. New

28. Over $1,000 in new Michelin Tires on vehical

29. New Battery (will include trickle charger)

30. Custom Sun Shade (will include)

31. Custom Fender Mechanic Chaps (will include)

32. 4 season Outdoor car cover (will include)

Paint and interior in great shape for the age of this vehicle. Would welcome any serious buyers who would wish to see the vehicle in person. Spare tire, pump kit, extra belts, owners manual, and two key sets all in great shape. I have all work orders and receipts since I have owned this vehicle.

This car was my dream car since I was a boy. I searched and found a good unmolested example and made it great. Sadly, I just do not have the time to drive it as I had hoped. I have put less than 1,500 miles on it in the 2 years I have owned the car. Have additional images if needed. Simply…This car needs nothing

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The 928 is sort of a chameleon type of car. In a period 1970s color such as light green metallic or brown, it appears firmly rooted in that era. However, paint it a color more commonly popular today, like silver, black or white, and you could mistakenly think this is the “new Porsche.” Few cars have ever looked into the future in terms of automotive styling as insightfully as the 928 did.

We featured a 5-speed manual 928S back in April that was for sale at $23,500. It failed to move at that price. Around $12,000 to $13,000 is about what average 928s of this vintage are pulling. This car isn’t average, though. Given the lower miles, condition and tasteful color combination, I’d suspect the final bidding on this car will wind up somewhere between $16,000 to $18,000.

-Paul

1985 Porsche 928S

It’s rather amazing that 36 years after its introduction, the Porsche 928 still looks fresh. In 1977, it must have appeared to have arrived from another planet. Integrated bumpers, a streamlined shape and potent V8 power were meant to take over where the 911 was about to leave off. Funny then, that the 911 has carried on almost twenty years after the last 928 rolled off the line. These grand tourers are beginning to creep up in value, but are still lagging a bit behind most 911s. Buy a really cheap one, though, and it could put you in the poor house. This 928S for sale near Philadelphia is a low mileage minter with the desirable 5-speed manual gearbox.

Year: 1985
Model: 928S
Engine: 5.0 liter V8
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Mileage: 25,300
Price: $23,500 Buy It Now

1985 Porsche 928S on eBay

You are bidding on a 2 owner 1985 Porsche 928S. This is a RARE 5-speed manual transmission,less than 500 units built this model year. Automatics dominated 1985 sales and are more available and much cheaper. Vehicle has 25,300 original miles. (This will change as I drive it when weather permits). Car comes with original purchase and service records, all owner’s manuals and key set and documentation service in the DC area. This is not the six thousand dollar 928 you hear about. (The wheels and tires alone would cost almost that much)!

Now what you SHOULD worry about……..in the last 2 months….NEW timing belt with NEW Pork tensioner system, NEW water pump. NEW rear coupler bushings (PIA to replace) flushed radiator and changed oil and filter. All other fluids clean and full (brakes, transaxle). Front and rear wheel bearings checked and adjusted as necessary. Breaks are great. ALL electronics and on board computers are working as they should. The back of my fuse/relay panel is all properly connected grey wires. The #42 fuse for the fuel pump is segregated. In other words the electronics are as they should be with NO jumpers or other homemade electronic configurations!!!

Front tires (Bridgestone Potenza) almost new 235s and the rear tires 285s are new. The wheels “real” Porsche Carrera III, 18”. The rear wheels were professionally refinished and LOOK NEW. The front wheels look great with a just a “smudge” on a spoke on the right front. If wheels and tires make a car…..consider this “made.” As you can see in the pictures the car really sits nice. I think the wheel/ tire combination is perfect. I have the stock wheels and almost new tires to go with the car at my asking price. I have a NEW Lizard short shifter ready to be installed. I will include with asking price.

What else….you can do a lot to a six thousand dollar 928 but it will cost you another 20 to make it as nice as this one. BODY/PAINT/INTERIOR all near period perfect. New Lloyd’s floor mats. It was cleaned up of any imperfections, scratches ,door dings, etc. before I bought it. The paint on this car looks great. Porsche Guards Red. A few repaired stone chips and 1 small size ding on exhaust cut out. (I don’t notice it) NO evidence of it ever being in an accident. Other than that I can honestly say this is a well cared for 25,000 mile interior. Interior is a 9 out of 10? OK so what are the cons? A few drips of oil from rear cam covers. Not enough to worry about. Nine dollar part and labor (I’m guessing 2-3hrs).

The rear hatch sounds like it’s working but isn’t. The professional 928 mechanic I use thinks we can adjust it. That being said…this car has been gone over and repaired by a “well known” 928 expert in the Mid Atlantic/North East region. He’s a good guy and if you’re really in the game I think we can get him to speak with you. The service manuals are a 9 set binder. I have a condensed version that is one manual but I have the 6 CD Jim Morehouse manual. Please call with any questions. With the above exceptions, EVERYTHING WORKS! This is a great ride. 610-368-3673. Good luck bidding. I may end auction early for a local sale or trade.

The last 928 we featured was a 1983 model and was listed at $22,500. It had similar mileage but didn’t have the later 5.0 liter engine that this car does. It seems that extremely low mileage 928s from the mid 1980s are reaching into the low $20,000 range, but if you look hard enough, there are still examples out there that can be had in the $15,000 to $18,000 range. The 5-speeds seem to bring a little bit more cash, since they are more rare and tend to be favored by more hardcore enthusiasts. Reach any lower than $15,000, though, and it could be a gamble.

-Paul